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Groklaw Will Be Archived At Library of Congress
inode_buddha writes "Groklaw has just received an invitation to be archived in the Library of Congress. In true FOSS style, PJ has decided to ask all the contributors and commenters if they wish to be included, since commenters own the copyrights on their comments. So far, the answer seems to be 'yes,' even for Anonymous Cowards. It's a great honor for Groklaw, but one wonders how many AC's there are, and whether Congress or future researchers would think that they are all one person."
I give my congratulations to PJ. She has done a remarkable service and has proven the Internet's power for citizen advocacy, education and activism. Her success can be measured by just how much her enemies tried to, and in some cases still try to discredit her.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
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Anonymous Coward whatever
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I contributed several comments to Groklaw but those comments I lifted from a number of Slashdotters. How do I handle that? I just want to do the right thing.
I am anonymous coward!
Aw, hell
And by the way, omniscient slashdot filter, I WAS YELLING
Great ... now we can all be Cowardly counted as +1
This is going to throw off my entire measurement system. What's the size of a Groklaw so I can add that in?
It's a great honor for Groklaw, but one wonders how many AC's there are, and whether Congress or future researchers would think that they are all one person.
I rather doubt many future researchers would think that "Anonymous Coward" is one person, though I can't speak for members of Congress. I can certainly imagine Ted Stevens talking about the tremendously prolific output of A. Coward flowing through a series of tubes....
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"It's a great honor for Groklaw, but one wonders how many AC's there are, and whether Congress or future researchers would think that they are all one person."
That would be one seriously disturbed person ;-) The future psychologists will have a field day analyzing this guy!
... give permission for all my comments to be archived without limitations.
Yours truly,
Anonymous Coward
Now slashdot won't have to worry about that in the unlikely case anybody ever finds its contents useful enough to preserve them for future generations.
Dude, I've got a split personality!
Also, I vote for yes.
... the mummified head of Daryl McBride on a pike.
You toss in a quarter, and the head screams "I'll swallow your code! I'll swallow your code!," whilst you get to whack at it with a chainsaw and plink it with the shotgun out of the Smithsonian Housewares exhibit, and taunt it with Bruce Campbell grimaces.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Perhaps Slashdot should be included. But as a counter example.
I keed I keed. You guys are all great! Except for the ones who aren't.
Actually I got suckered into reading user comments on CNN.com the other day. Makes Slashdot look like powerful scholars who by all rights should be in charge of the playground. Not mopping up the melting snow with their ratty jackets.
Damnit. I really do love you guys!
I think you can assume that Anonymous Cowards implicitly disclaim any ownership of their post by disassociating themselves from their identity. Then again, so far as I know, copyright ownership can't be lost implicitly. By the way, this comment is hereby placed in the public domain.
Does anyone know just how big the Groklaw archive is, anyway? Please answer in units of Libraries of Congresses, or LOCs. And how big will it be, in LOCs, after it gets added? And how big is the actual Library of Congress, in LOCs, both before and after the addition? I'd prefer it in metric LOCs (being Canadian), but I can convert from imperial LOCs if necessary. Thanks.
It was only recently discovered that the Federalist Papers were actually written by the Founding Fathers. Until now, those might have been the nation's most famous ACs.
PJ is notorious for censoring comments that she doesn't like. For instance, any reference to AllParadox will get your comment removed.
It is PJ's blog and she can do what she likes but it isn't nearly as transparent as she would have us believe. It would be nice if they could restore the censored comments and archive those too.
SCO Group copyright claims:
9th June 2003 What evidence of origin,ownership,copyright + GPL
And soon SCO Group Vs IBM:
12th June 2003 The Trillian Project : Proof of SCO's actions
Random Love, CEO Caldera, keynote address,LINUXWORLD 2000 conference, August
... But who's willing to go for a name change?
Groklaw has my ok.
Reguarding the Anonymous Cowards comment, PJ had disabled new accounts so it is currently impossible for anyone to create one. All new users have no choice BUT to be anonymous. Some also prefer NOT to be anonymous, but their accounts were disabled/deleted because they posted a serious comment that was against popular opinion and labeled a troll. That isn't to say there aren't a lot of trolls there, because there are.
Kudos to PJ. I think it is quite well deserved.
Uh, Linux geek since 1999.
It is my firm belief that all anonymous posts are public domain.
It is precisely like someone shouting in a square -- and that's why I always choose to go anonymous.
I want what I say to be judged on its own merits -- praised or rejected, whatever.
That /. in practice relegated ACs to oblivion looks like totally idiotic to me (though I recognize jerks usually post anonymously)... we need a better system.
Karma is only desired by those who must collect it with daily zeal; the truly enlightened, by the proper definition of the word, don't want karma.
(I apologize for the hubris shown).
I wonder how many Libraries of Congress fit in there.
but one wonders how many AC's there are, and whether Congress or future researchers would think that they are all one person."
I thought I was a collective, you know... like the Borg
If future researchers decided that "Anonymous Coward" was one person, how could they help but wonder at the popularity of "Apple/Microsoft/Linux Fanboi", whom AC constantly orders to "suck this".
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
There is only one Anonymous Coward and I am very busy.
I started following GrokLaw as a newbie to network admin as it started, kinda mortified as to the idea that the whole Open Source creative system was open to not a technical attack, but a legal attack that kinda obscured the origins of the code being created. Our main server was set up by a kid who had had a project in college to create a web/file/print/dns/etc. server using this new OS called Linux. Which he did for us, and I inherited- worked great. I redid it several times, now run OpenSuse for grins. The learning curve was helped along thru the local LUG.
I was new to the open source prospects, and putting into place many great products that I found, windows based as well as Linux. This attack seemed to set the whole movement back a bit, but in the meantime I kept watch on GrokLaw for liability purposes.
PJ does deserve a spot in the National Archives. Brilliant reporting and analysis, curing that problem of tech getting attacked via legal obscurity. It was a real job.
We tend to forget that technology gets better thru the enthusiast's working in the garages, and sometimes companies will fight for their base as last resort.
Anonymous Coward
Do you really think they're browsing about the Internet up at the Library of Congress looking to archive the unmoderated drivel that is a slashdot, digg, 4chan or fark thread? Really?
<sigh> some days I wonder how some of you ACs managed to get your screensaver turned off so you can post this crap.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
This should be interesting.
Well you got modded down as you presumably intended but your post is still going to be archived. I like the fact that short of extreme measures from the CoS and dodgy database design posts on /. stay there forever.
I didn't like the ability of editors to delete posts from Technocrat yet I posted there. I don't like it on boing boing either.
A moderation system is a better way to suppress posts.
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...the library of Congress has been known to f*ck people.
Ed R.Zahurak
You know, oblivion keeps looking better every day.
Of course. I love that posts are persistent here on slashdot. It's an elegant solution to a lot of problems. I just don't think it's the only answer.
I like that things are done differently in other places too. Not everybody has to do everything the same way. Part of going to Groklaw is that you accept that PJ's moderation system is arbitrary and capricious. It has made for a good quality website, if not so full of hidden surprises of slashdot's "wild west" method, at least with less unpleasantness.
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