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25th Anniversary of Hackers

theodp writes "Sharks gotta swim; bats gotta fly; hackers gotta hack. On the 25th anniversary of Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution, author Steven Levy has penned an interesting where-are-they-now follow up on the original digital revolutionaries for Wired. 'Some of my original subjects,' writes Levy, 'are now rich, famous, and powerful. They thrived in the movement's transition from insular subculture to multibillion-dollar industry, even if it meant rejecting some of the core hacker tenets. Others, unwilling or unable to adapt to a world that had discovered and exploited their passion — or else just unlucky — toiled in obscurity and fought to stave off bitterness. I also found a third group: the present-day heirs to the hacker legacy, who grew up in a world where commerce and hacking were never seen as opposing values. They are bringing their worldview into fertile new territories and, in doing so, are molding the future of the movement.' Here's hoping Google reads this and gets inspired to let Andy Hertzfeld ship whatever the hell he wants!" Glyn Moody pulls out one poignant detail from Levy's account: rms's thoughts of suicide.

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  1. 25 years? by AnonymousClown · · Score: 5, Funny
    How old was Angelina Jolie when she made that movie?

    The Amazon link is showing a different cover than what I usually see.

    Why is everyone looking at me that way?

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    1. Re:25 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How old was Angelina Jolie when she made that movie?

      The Amazon link is showing a different cover than what I usually see.

      Why is everyone looking at me that way?

      19/20. The movie was released in 1995 while Angelina Jolie was released in 1975.

    2. Re:25 years? by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 5, Funny

      19/20. The movie was released in 1995 while Angelina Jolie was released in 1975.

      Woman 2.0

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  2. Not fair to run down the black/grey hat hackers by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The word hacker entered the popular lexicon, although its meaning has changed: In the mid-'80s, following a rash of computer break-ins by teenagers with personal computers, true hackers stood by in horror as the general public began to equate the word -- their word -- with people who used computers not as instruments of innovation and creation but as tools of thievery and surveillance. The kind of hacker I wrote about was motivated by the desire to learn and build, not steal and destroy.

    Based on my humble experience, most of the hackers doing black and grey hat stuff like phreaking/cracking/etc. weren't doing it to "steal and destroy" (even the phreakers stealing phone service were often only motivated by the desire to be able to dial long distance BBS's that they wouldn't have otherwise been able to afford). In their own way, they too were motivated by a desire to learn and with the thrill of accomplishment (over defeating a security system, finding a way to make a system behave in a way it wasn't intended, etc.). They were as much a part of the hacker culture as the guy sitting down and figuring out a new sorting algorithm or the guy finding a way to make a mainframe do something it was never designed for (like playing a videogame). And many of these crackers and phreakers were quite talented and actually went on with successful programming careers (especially if they were lucky/good enough not to have been caught).

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    1. Re:Not fair to run down the black/grey hat hackers by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 4, Informative

      They were often the same people, too, e.g. Woz was both varieties of hacker (which weren't that strongly differentiated anyway).

      That's true. Wozniac and Jobs got their start in the tech industry building and selling blue boxes. While neither one of them denies that, they generally don't make a point of bringing it up either. Of course, the devices hadn't yet been outlawed at that point.

      (For you youngsters out there, a blue box was a device that allowed you to control a telco's electronic long-distance circuit switches to your advantage.)

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  3. Re:Tom Lehrer +1 by edittard · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder what the holy bastard fuck "its'" is supposed to be. Is it perhaps the possessive of the plural of an it?

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  4. The RMS quote is very sad! by onionman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Regardless of your opinion of the FSF and the (L)GPL, the Stallman quote is very sad!

    Hey, RMS, if you're reading this, then just know that I'm glad you're here!!! Stick around, buddy! You've touched many lives in a good way.

    1. Re:The RMS quote is very sad! by Em+Emalb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "In our original interview, Stallman said, "I'm the last survivor of a dead culture. And I don't really belong in the world anymore. And in some ways I feel I ought to be dead." Now, meeting over Chinese food, he reaffirms this. "I have certainly wished I had killed myself when I was born," he says. "In terms of effect on the world, it's very good that I've lived. And so I guess, if I could go back in time and prevent my birth, I wouldn't do it. But I sure wish I hadn't had so much pain."

      Unreal. Genius (and as much as I disagree with a lot of what he has to say, he is a genius) is often tortured. And arrogant.

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    2. Re:The RMS quote is very sad! by jimbobborg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Genius (and as much as I disagree with a lot of what he has to say, he is a genius) is often tortured. And arrogant.

      Yes, we are.

    3. Re:The RMS quote is very sad! by jmtpi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sad indeed (to the point where I feel guilty for using xemacs....). But it doesn't strike me as something that somebody would say because they haven't been appreciated enough. Rather, it sounds like he's clinically depressed. When you're that sad, it's not for a logical reason....

  5. I prefer the ORIGINAL definition of "Hacker" by v1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hackers that come to mind for me aren't these people that do digital break-ins. They don't even have to apply to computers whatsoever. Dictionary.com doesn't even have the correct original definition:

    1. a person or thing that hacks.
    2. Slang. a person who engages in an activity without talent or skill: weekend hackers on the golf course.
    3. Computer Slang.
      a. a computer enthusiast.
      b. a microcomputer user who attempts to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems.

    First there were hackers. Then there was a new subset, called "computer hackers". Now the former are known as "hardware hackers" and the latter simply as "hackers". (and with only the negative connotations)

    When *I* think of "hacker", I think of MacGyver. and Scotty. and Junkyard Showdown. And in the best modern tradition, Robot Wars. It's a real shame that I can't declare myself a "hacker" nowadays without people getting all the wrong ideas. In my book, a "hacker" is anyone that can do more with less than the average individual. I think I'd even have to call Red Green a good redneck hacker - anyone that can solve that many problems with Duct Tape has got to be a hacker.

    I suspect the original definition evolved from "A person that hacks away at a problem using primitive tools not designed for the purpose, to create an acceptable and sometimes elegant solution."

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  6. its as exciting now as in the 1970s by peter303 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was at the fringe of that world: I hung around the MIT and Stanford A.I. labs of the 1970s; I attended the Homebrew computer club meetings in the mid 1970s where the two Steve's introduced their funky wooden computer named after Beatle music. And I've attended many user and hobbyist groups since and now. The technology ebbs and flows. The the excitement and opportunity to make money, to build a company in your dorm room or "garage" is as great now as it was then. Right now we have Facebook, Twitter, and phone apps breaking out of the stalls. I cant see any real barrier to this ending for another 30 years other than people running out of imagination.