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Google Enumerates Government Requests

D H NG writes "In the aftermath of Google's exit from mainland China, it had sought to be more open about what it censors. Google has launched a new tool to track the number of government requests targeted at Google and YouTube. These include both requests for data and requests to take down data. A quick look at the tool shows that Brazil is the top country in both categories (largely because Orkut is popular there), and information for China cannot be disclosed because 'Chinese officials consider censorship demands as state secrets.' As part of its four-part plan, Google hopes to change the behavior of repressive governments, establish guiding principles for dealing with issues of free expression, build support online to protest repression, and better provide resources and support for developing technology designed to combat and circumvent Internet censorship."

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  1. Re:All you have to do is redefine the request by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That wouldn't have much effect: due to the First Amendment, it's not actually illegal for third parties to republish classified information. It is a crime to leak it in the first place (so e.g. if you're a CIA officer and start mailing out documents, you can go to jail), but not to publish if you somehow get a hold of it. So making it classified information wouldn't prevent Google from publishing their own statistics.

  2. Request vs Demand by chill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What they DON'T show -- and I've sent feedback asking for -- is how many of these are legal demands, such as warrants or court orders, versus informal requests.

    For anyone else interested in requesting the same info, here is the link: http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/request.py?contact_type=privacy&ctx=contactpolicy

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    1. Re:Request vs Demand by Animaether · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Some of the "we complied with this 'request'" bits - for data removal, they don't show stats on information requests at this time - do show "(court order)", though.

      Which of course has me curious.. which Google Video item was removed by court order from the U.S. government?

  3. Transparent, benign big brother? by sznupi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think Orwell saw that one coming...

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  4. pleasantly surprised by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Interesting

    google could have so easily gone the traditional "sacrifice all your values for the pursuit of money route", but they actually showed they have principles and a backbone

    google, you've earned my loyalty and respect. integrity: what a rare and wonderful concept

    as for china considering censorship requests to be state secrets: well of course it does. just like the church of scientology considers its sacred texts to be intellectual property. i mean, if you're going to be a controlling asshole, at least be true to the concept to the inevitable extreme of absurdity, right?

    wikileaks: get that list of censorship requests. google, give that list up: you've already burned your bridges

    oh, and btw: fuck you censorial controlling assholes. you are clearly on the losing side of history. i look forward to your inevitable demise

     

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  5. Re:Go Canada! by MrWiggum · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To bad those numbers aren't per capita. If you consider that the population of the United States is roughly 9 times that of Canada. Then Canada has more removal requests per capita.

  6. Brazil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A quick look at the tool shows that Brazil is the top country in both categories (largely because Orkut is popular there)

    The reason Brazil is the top country is not only due to Orkut's popularity, but because many Brazilian laws were designed to limit freedom of speech and free enterprise. Anyone remember this?

    A significant part of these government requests is probably tied to lawsuits involving Adwords. In the past, companies have been sued and found guilty for using their competitors' names as keywords in Adwords, for example. This practice is perfectly legal in most countries, including the US.

    I wonder if Google can make this popular enough to pressure countries into changing their laws.

  7. Re:Go Canada! by gangien · · Score: 3, Interesting

    on a more serious note, Canada's population is 10% of the US. Coincidentally, the number of requests is about 10% of the US's.