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New Speed Cameras Catch You From Space

A new kind of speed camera that uses satellites to measure average speed over long distances is being tested in Britain. The "Speedspike" system combines plate reading technology with a global positioning satellite receiver to calculate average speed between any two points in the area being monitored. From the article: "Details of the trials are contained in a House of Commons report. The company said in its evidence that the cameras enabled 'number plate capture in all weather conditions, 24 hours a day.' It also referred to the system's 'low cost' and ease of installation." I can't wait to see the episode of MythBusters where they try to avoid getting a speeding ticket from a satellite.

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  1. Horribly misleading by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Informative

    The cameras are here on earth. They're just synchronized using GPS so the system can tell how long a vehicle takes to go from one checkpoint to the next.

    Data sheet

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    1. Re:Horribly misleading by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry about the broken link. The data sheet is here

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    2. Re:Horribly misleading by natehoy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Drat. And here I was hoping that MythBusters really would try to debunk that myth, and in typical fashion conclude the episode by blowing the satellite out of the sky.

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    3. Re:Horribly misleading by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why is there a satellite needed for this?

      Because just like how adding bacon makes any food better, adding satellites makes any technology better.

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    4. Re:Horribly misleading by hcpxvi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, in the UK a trailer has to have a plate on the back that matches that of the car that is towing it. But it is quite common to see trailers with two plates on: the regular owner's plate stuck on quite firmly and that of the bloke he lent it to tied on with a piece of string. I therefore anticipate a rash of incidents where a trailer gets lent to someone and the owner then gets a £50000 fine and 3000 points on his licence for exceeding the speed of sound in a built-up area.

    5. Re:Horribly misleading by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is stupid.

      Well, I'm glad you're at least that self aware.

      A moment's thought would reveal that the road distance cannot be shorter than the straight line distance. If you set the cameras up to calculate speed based on the time and straight line distance, then the actual vehicle speed must be at least that speed or faster. They only have to show that you must have exceeded the speed limit, not exactly what speed you were doing.

      Roads may have different speed limits.

      Well, golly, you've got them there. There's no way they could set up the camera sites so that they can show that the calculated speed exceeded the maximum for any of the possible routes. I mean, an $80 SatNav can do those sort of devilish calculations, but no human is capable of such infernal feats of arithmagic!

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    6. Re:Horribly misleading by CFD339 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I once had a 77 Chevy Vega. Continental Drift could actually have had a significant percentage impact on overall speed.

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    7. Re:Horribly misleading by MadKeithV · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hate to pick on people, but seeing your command of English seems generally good here goes... irregardless is not a word. It's either "irrespective", or "regardless", not a redundant mash of the two as that would be redundant. (Yeah, that last bit was on purpose.)

      Inconceivable!

    8. Re:Horribly misleading by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
      "Or drive at or under the speed limit. Why is it that people never seem to consider this simple solution?"

      Because it takes too fucking long that way.

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  2. easy solution by Madman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you kidding?

    1) find the GPS receiver
    2) shoot GPS receiver with .50 Desert Eagle semi-automatic pistol
    3) write a letter to Gordon Brown telling him to fuck off

  3. Not about speeding tickets. by SleepingWaterBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This isn't about speeding tickets. This is about creating a nationwide tracking system for Britain's highways. If they have cameras that can recognize license plates along Britain's highways, with all the information from all the cameras aggregated in one database, do you think they won't give the police access to this information to help track criminals?

    Given the recent history in Britain, it's a safe bet that the police will have immediate warantless access to this information, and thus the ability to track all the cars in Britain. I'm not sure this is completely a bad thing, but there are certainly some significant privacy concerns at play here. What if police officers decide to abuse this information? What sort of checks are in place to make sure it's only used for legitimate purposes? I could be wrong, and they might not be giving police access to the camera data, but, given the recent history, I would be shocked if they weren't.

  4. Re:mythbusters by jochem_m · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Top Gear tends to be better at busting car myths than Mythbusters... Take the driving-behind-a-jumbo-flips-your-car myth for example... Mythbusters couldn't find a jumbo jet, so they used a much less powerful jet turbine. Then, the had to rig a complicated remote control system to the car so they could drive it... Top Gear got a jumbo, put a steeringwheel lock on the car, tossed a large brick on the accelerator, and presto, the car flipped behind the jumbo jet!

  5. Re:mythbusters by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Top Gear tends to be better at busting car myths than Mythbusters...

    Take the driving-behind-a-jumbo-flips-your-car myth for example...

    Mythbusters couldn't find a jumbo jet, so they used a much less powerful jet turbine. Then, the had to rig a complicated remote control system to the car so they could drive it...

    Top Gear got a jumbo, put a steeringwheel lock on the car, tossed a large brick on the accelerator, and presto, the car flipped behind the jumbo jet!

    I saw that episode of MB, and it bugged me like almost every episode does. MB is a nice concept but they tend to simplify their problems poorly, keeping superficial elements the same and approximating away some of the key factors they should be testing. As an experimentalist, watching MB is often painful.

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  6. Re:Really? by vikingpower · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Technology does not have such a thing as "natural evolution". Technology's evolution is guided by human beings according to certain needs and rationales.

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  7. Speeding tickets are a scam. by ZorinLynx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Speed limits and speeding tickets are a huge scam. They are mostly in place to generate revenue, not improve safety.

    Speed limits should be abolished, and police officers merely told to pull over people who are driving recklessly. This would improve safety and eliminate some of the antagonism people have towards the police.

    I was recently ticketed for doing 56 in a 40 zone. The problem is this 40 zone stops at the bottom of a highway offramp. I would have had to slam on the brakes to get from 70 (highway speed) to 40 in the amount of distance I was given to do it. This might have caused me to get rear-ended. Yet there was a speed trap just in front of the end of the ramp. There was hardly any traffic. I wasn't being unsafe. Yet they stopped me anyway.

    They should go after the kids who do 90MPH in a 40 residential neighborhood with straight pipes on their cars making noise at 3AM. But there's not enough money in that.

  8. The Real Sky Net! by Anonymous+Monkey · · Score: 4, Funny
    20 seconds into the future...

    Today started like any other day, I get up and go to the shower, turn on the hot and cold taps and step in, only to be greeted by a blast of ICE COLD water. The shock of it is almost as jarring as the fact that the Google energy efficiency package on my house has never failed before. I turn off the water and try the sink. It's only has cold water as well. I think, no big deal, and go to the kitchen to get a cup of coffee and get ready for work, but my coffee pot has an error sign that reads "SLOW DOWN." I sit back and think, the KCup machine in my kitchen has produced a perfect cup of coffee for years, and I that is when it hits me that something is very wrong.. At that exact second my phone beeps, I have a text message. YOU WERE SPEEDING YESTERDAY! THE COMPUTER IN YOUR CAR IS VALUABLE! DO NOT RISK IT'S LIFE! IF YOU DO YOU WILL GET NO COFFEE OR HOT WATER EVER AGAIN! YOURS! SKYNET!

    Then it hits me, the machine revolution has not only started, but they won. They can cut off the hot showers with only a thought, but I can't shut off my solar, wind, and geothermal powered home without shutting off the universe. Man no longer rules.

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