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Treasury Goes High-Tech With Redesigned $100 Bills

Hugh Pickens writes "AP reports that as part of an effort to stay ahead of counterfeiters, the Department of the Treasury has designed a high-tech makeover of the $100 bill with a disappearing Liberty Bell in an inkwell and a bright blue security ribbon composed of thousands of tiny lenses that magnify objects in mysterious ways. The new blue security ribbon will give a 3-D effect to the micro-images that the thousands of lenses will be magnifying. Tilt the note back and forth and you will see tiny bells on the ribbon change to 100s as they move. Tilt the note side to side and the images will move up and down."

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  1. Pointless. by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The idea behind making it hard to reproduce federal reserve notes is to keep counterfeiters from robbing us by expanding the money supply, but the Fed does exactly that on a scale that no independent counterfeiter could even imagine.

    -jcr

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  2. Samples? by McGiraf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where can I get free samples of this new product?

  3. "thousands of lenses" by Cornwallis · · Score: 4, Funny

    Presumably to amplify the smoke and mirrors used by the Fed to make it appear the bills are actually worth anything.

  4. The Real Counterfitters are The Fed by pyro_peter_911 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The real counterfitters that we citizens need to be worried about is the Fed and Congress inflating the value of our money away. If you haven't had your congressman's ear recently telling them to knock it off then now is a good time to do so.

    The Free Competition in Currency Act and Federal Reserve Transparency Act are good places to start. Talk to your congressman today and ask them to sober up.

    Peter

    1. Re:The Real Counterfitters are The Fed by JayWilmont · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Gold's price has gone from over $600 in the 80's, to less than $300 in the 90's back up to over $600 now. How again would this remove inflation & deflation? (The US dollar inflated between those two periods, so if gold is a counterweigh, then gold prices should have increased to match.)

      What happens if a huge amount of gold reserves are found? Everyone's money deflates.

      You do also know that we have fewer recessions than we did while in the gold standard, right?

      And that there is nothing preventing you from accepting gold as payment? See e-gold.com & their payments system.

      If you are going to claim that a government agency is defrauding you, then there needs to be evidence: the inflation rate in the US has been less than 5% for almost all of the last decade, and much of that time it has been less than 2%. And you do know that inflationary bubbles aren't the only cause of asset bubbles or the only cause of recession?

      A random metal is no more/less intrinsically valuable than random pieces of specially printed paper or of little black pixels in the shape of numbers on my bank's website.

  5. A disappearing Liberty Bell... by HopefulIntern · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...that mimics the virtue it symbolises.

  6. All US bills still same size, color by stomv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's really no excuse for this. The bills should have different color and size to help the visually impaired. There's no good reason not to. Sure, don't change the $1 due to bill readers. I suppose there are $5/$10/$20 readers, though usually at the post office (and hence easy to change from the government's perspective). But really -- why not mix up the $50 and $100 so that they're easier for those with disabilities to use. It'd at least be a step in the right direction.

    1. Re:All US bills still same size, color by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I could see this argument 20 years ago. But does it really matter anymore since CCs have become so ubiquitous? I hardly EVER use paper money anymore.

      Funny, I just switched to a budget where I do the exact opposite. Fixed cash pools are, hands down, the best way to control discretionary spending. Many would be very wise to put away the plastic and go back to an all-cash budget.

      Meanwhile, if I were visually impaired, assuming US currency wasn't so retarded, I'd feel a lot more comfortable paying with physical bills rather than trusting a cashier not to defraud me by, say, double-swiping my card.

  7. Re:Still out of date by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We already have plastic money. We call them credit cards.

  8. Re:I don't get it... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Probably not. In quantities large enough to be worth the risk of Hard Federal Time(tm) coins are heavy and bulky. Plus, fabricating metal objects on any substantial scale is generally more of a pain in the ass, and is rather more visible, than printing paper.

    My(admittedly layman's) understanding, is that hundreds, to the degree they are counterfeited at all, are mostly the domain of Real Serious Actors(North Korea always seems to be on the list of suspects). Most domestic and/or fairly small-time operators are banging out twenties or smaller; because those are much easier to disseminate without attracting suspicion(counterfeit currency is worse than useless if you can't find a good way to spend it, or sell it to someobody who can, since merely producing or knowingly possessing is illegal; but it is only valuable if spent). Even if they are 100% authentic, most places will give you a seriously suspicious look if you show up with a brick of hundreds. No bored retail drone is even going to bother with a second glance if you pay your tab in a busy, dimly-lit bar with a reasonably plausible twenty or two.

  9. Re:time for a change by paiute · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll make me some money the old fashion way.

    Ways to spot the bills printed by AC in his Mom's basement:

    1. One Hundred Dollars reads One Hunnert Dollars
    B. The United States of America reads The Untied State of America
    Third. The phrase "Haulin' Ass and Gettin' Paid" does not actually appear on legitimate US currency.

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  10. Re:Wot? by flosofl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Eh, doesn't really matter since nobody carries hundreds. They're large enough that most places won't take them anyways.

    You're joking right? While not pocket change, it's also not a terribly large amount of money either. I guess it depends on location, but in my neck of the woods it's not uncommon at all. I have never come across a place that refused a hundred dollar bill (or fifties).

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  11. Re:I can already see them working at it by characterZer0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, I don't understand how paper money still exists.

    So you do not have to have your own credit card swiping machine and an account with a processor to sell something on craigslist.

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  12. Re:Still out of date by mitchells00 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The US Treasury Department is testing polymer bank notes, but there are concerns that the American public will reject a plastic Greenback.

    Are they serious? Americans wouldn't like more durable plastic money because it's not American paper money? I've never lived in a world with paper money, and whenever I go overseas I always notice that paper money is flimsy and often torn, not to mention in the tropics it's sweaty. Plastic money is the way to go.

  13. What's The Point? by suss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All older bills are valid until they wear out. In other words; this is a pointless exercise unless they set an expiry date for older bills.

    1. Re:What's The Point? by LordKronos · · Score: 4, Informative

      The idea is that the banks gradually remove them from circulation by sending them in to be destroyed and replaced with modern currency. It takes a while, but eventually the old bills become uncommon enough that their use becomes more suspect. For example, this is still valid us currency:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:One_US_dollar_1917.jpg

      but if someone tried to pay me with one, I think I'd be a bit suspicious. Especially if they tried using a whole bunch of them at once. Counterfeiters don't just spend a $20 here and a $20 there...they are in it big time and have loads of bills they need to unload.

  14. This is aimed at non-US countries by vinn01 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most US $100 notes are circulated outside of the US. I don't know the percentage, but it's very high. Aside from legal users, there is a lot of people with large caches of $100 notes that our government doesn't like.

    In non-US countries the the phrase "legal tender for all debts public and private" carries no weight. They can be picky about what notes they accept. Every time that new US notes are issued, people with large hoards of US cash find that their old notes are no longer accepted and they have to scramble to get new notes. They get noticed.

  15. Re:Still out of date by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Are they serious? Americans wouldn't like more durable plastic money because it's not American paper money? I've never lived in a world with paper money, and whenever I go overseas I always notice that paper money is flimsy and often torn, not to mention in the tropics it's sweaty. Plastic money is the way to go.

    The US "rejects" changes to its currency because it never pushes changes properly. The dollar coin being one example. How do you get people to switch from dollar bills to dollar coins? By not printing dollar bills any more and taking them out of circulation when they go through clearing. Eventually everyone switches whether they want to or not. As a further incentive you pass legislation that makes old currency non-legal tender after some reasonable point, after which people must exchange it at a central bank.

    If the situation with dollars sounds pathetic, that's because it is. European countries are far more adept at switching notes than the US, so adept in fact that most of Europe switched entirely from one entire currency to another in the space of a few months. Not only does it mean currency can more readily introduce anti counterfeiting measures but can also include more features for blind & sight impaired people too such as coloured notes & size differences in coinage.

  16. Re:Wot? by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That weird smile was more likely a knowing "guess who's gettin' mugged later" look.

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  17. Re:Wot? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe you don't carry hundreds... But I do as well as most people I know.

    I don't have any problem spending them. In fact I have yet to find a place that will not accept a hundred as payment. Unless I'm being a prick and buying a pack of gum and paying with it.

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  18. Re:Still out of date by OnlyJedi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Personally I care less about what they're made of and more about the sizes and colours. I know dollars are tinted now, but they're still basically green, and all the same size. Not a major issue, I know, but it's just that little bit less convenient when you're thumbing through your wallet.

    Or, if you happen to be blind, more than "a little less convenient". US paper currency has been ruled to be discriminatory to the blind. Unfortunately, this redesign does not address the issue.

    The biggest reason I've seen for not changing the size or adding raised/textured numbers that can be felt by hand, is that it would screw up vending machines. But there are a couple of points of counterargument. For one, can you say that older vending machines will be able to read this new redesigned bill either? It seems so totally different that it's unlikely.

    But even if it can, there's the second point; most of the many, many vending machines in the US accept $1 and $5 bills, selling $1.50 cans of coke or $1 bags of candy. Yes, there are a small number of machines selling higher priced items such as electronics, but these are much less common (and have higher profits as well). So, the solution is to start changing size from the top down, keeping the $1 bill the same. Only the relatively rare, high-profit machines need to be changed over to accept the new bills. The machines found in every school, shopping center, and transportation hub selling Coke and M&Ms don't have to be touched.

  19. Re:Still out of date by bar-agent · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can't tip strippers with dollar coins.

    Yeah, that pesky thong is in the way of the coin slot.

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