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Israel Repeals iPad Ban
SillySilly writes "The ban has been lifted: The Communications Ministry announced Saturday evening that starting Sunday it will allow Apple's iPad tablet computer into the country, following two weeks of confiscations and confusion."
Well you know what the nation of Israel is like, they're always initially suspicious of new tablets. But they come around in the end.
At least they finally got it tested so it proved what it said. Isralies are picky to a fault.
But you can't ship 'em in yet. Limit's only one per person, so no gifting yet.
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Because Israel either (1) realized that it didn't really violate their standards as they thought or (2) realized that their standards are not enforceable because they are incorrectly set. The iPad follows the same Wi-Fi standards as other devices like laptops. Some test after the whole fiasco that the iPad actually emits less than an average US laptop. So if the iPad was in violation then Israel should be confiscating all US made laptops at the border.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
If the device violates their wireless standards then why the hell should they allow it to operate in their country?
It shouldn't. But it doesn't.
The whole issue was that it was untested. That was it. As with any bureaucracy, rules must be obeyed even if in the end the result is the same.
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Apple's iPad tablet computer
I don't really consider the iPad to be much of a computer.
Everything that intentionally emits a wireless signal has to have a prototype sent to the FCC here in the USA. We typically learn of new Apple iPhone/iPad products just before they're submitted to the FCC because once they hit the FCC they'd become public record at that point anyway.
Israel's complaint was mostly due to a lack of a seal of approval that the iPad now has. Nothing wrong with the device, just need to show one to the approved lab and pay the fee.
You mean Chinese made. The only thing exported from stateside these days are Britney Spears videos.
US made laptops -- Got a link?
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Sometimes it seems like Slashdot posts stories about Israel for no other reason than to get people to start arguing. Come to think of it, the same goes for Apple.
Why does anyone need to know this? There's really not much discussion you can have about "this country lets you bring iPads" in, before this whole pages inevitably devolves into endless flaming about 1) Israel's foreign policy and/or 2) how the iPad sucks because it's a closed platform or whatever.
I'm just saying, it'd be cool if the editors stopped and asked themselves, "Are we posting this because it's important news that people should know, or are we posting it because we want to watch it draw trolls like moths to a flame?". This story is firmly in category 2.
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I don't really consider the iPad to be much of a computer.
And many don't consider the computer (as we know it) to be much of a tablet.
The difference is what makes it better, and why they seem to be succeeding when other tablet efforts have come out flat.
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You mean Chinese made. The only thing exported from stateside these days are Britney Spears videos.
I think her kids are also locally sourced... but I don't follow that stuff too closely because, hey, none of it's spilling my direction..
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And are we going to discuss this matter for each of the 188 countries or at least 50 of them?
How important is the small market there that this is being discussed all over the internet?
We typically learn of new Apple iPhone/iPad products just before they're submitted to the FCC because once they hit the FCC they'd become public record at that point anyway.
Actually the FCC will handle equipment testing and acceptance confidentially. The process takes quite some time (months) so confidential testing and processing helps prevent early disclosure of products. Also, many devices like the iPad do not require new certifications because they will simply integrate a pre-existing radio module that has already been though the process.
I am a geek attorney, but not your geek attorney unless you've already retained me. This is not legal advice.
If you believe that, this Jon Stewart movie is a must-watch. Besides being hilarious, it points out the obvious fact that the best way to fix the trade deficit is to improve the standard of living in other countries.
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I am cool with that. But at least the editors could be honest and use a humanity story. There are plenty to choose from.
once they hit the FCC they'd become public record at that point anyway.
You can actually pay extra to the FCC to have them keep it a secret until the product is released. Apple doesn't trust the FCC to be able to keep a secret, so they do announce the products before sending them to the FCC. And frankly they don't trust the FCC for a good reason: the FCC really can't keep a secret, someone will get a secret picture of it or something.
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Yeah... like how that iconic picture of the 12-year-old Mohammad al-Dura screaming in terror moments before he was brutally murdered was finally proven to be a staged "Pallywood" production. Or driving the Palestinians out of their homes in Jerusalem. Oh, you mean those Jewish homes purchased over 100 years ago, whose owners the Jordanians drove out, renting the homes to Arabs and holding the rent in "escrow" for the legal Jewish owners? Until the Arabs stopped paying the rent and tried to claim the homes as theirs? And finally got evicted for not paying rent for years? Wish I could live in a rental house and then decide to just stop paying the rent and get to claim title to the house.
Or how about building some apartment buildings in a Jewish neighborhood of Jerusalem that in no way expands the borders of said Jewish neighborhood? Well, I guess facts really aren't all that much fun, are they? After all, "thousands of illegal settlements driving the Palestinians off their land" sounds a lot more exciting than "Jews legally building apartments in their own neighborhoods".
The iPad is now KOSHER!!!
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Wow, apparently you didn't read my post, because I explained why Apple doesn't go for the secrecy option (that is, the FCC has trouble keeping secrets even when they try. If you don't remember, Amazon's Kindle was revealed from the FCC even though they went for the extra secrecy protection). Apple reveals their products before the file at the FCC.
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Wow. You're right. I didn't actually read your post.
Please allow me to retract my previous statement, and insist that the immediate unavailability of vodka combined with a fright of the forthcoming Monday must have clouded my vision and thoughts.
Kid-proof tablet..
I think the bigger question is how 1,000's of other foreign products go in without any problems. Why was the iPad singled out? If I take my new HTC phone fresh from Taiwan and unlicensed in Israel, they are not going to seize it.
Time offers an explanation:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1983236,00.html
"It is worth noting," Etengoff wrote, "that Apple's Israeli distributor, iDigital, is run by Chemi Peres, the hyper-entrepreneurial son of Israeli President Shimon Peres.
"Clearly, iDigital wants its lucrative cut of every iPad brought into the country — which it will undoubtedly receive when a modified European version of the iPad is approved for import over the next two or three months.
Shimon Peres - Israeli President, Chemi Peres - son of Israeli President who happens to run iDigital, iDigital - Apple's Israeli distributor
If you're prone to think such thoughts it appears that there would an ulterior motive ($$) for the ban on the iPad. I live in Beirut and the iPad has been here for a couple of weeks now, but the prices are astronomical, they're basically double of what the US retail price is. Best as I can figure is that people are purchasing them from the US and shipping them over to Lebanon. Add on VAT and import fees and double the price so a profit is made and you get as 16GB model for just over $1,000 USD. I almost gagged when I heard the cost for the 64GB model. I am not sure when the iPad will officially make it to Lebanon through the handful of shops that retail Apple products but I sincerely hope the prices go down when it does.
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er...Jew is a race. "Real" Jews can in fact be identified by DNA.
There's DNA you may identify was "jew", but things are not that simple.
The moment you make such connection a rule, you'll end up with things like jew families who are no longer jews and weird things like christian jews.
This whole debate of who is a jew is a mess. If you want to know more, you may start here and here.
Also, many devices like the iPad do not require new certifications because they will simply integrate a pre-existing radio module that has already been though the process.
While this can happen, depending on the enclosure of the device the FCC can still elect for full testing. You still need to submit, and they can approve purely on similarity, but all the little metal bits can cause a compliant radio to become non-compliant. Think of a parabolic reflector, and that's a simple way to make a compliant device non-compliant.
I'm pretty sure that with Apple's R&D budget and their limited space, the iPad probably didn't use an off-the-shelf radio module.
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And that won't just fix trade deficits, but ease rampant immigration issues, and mitigate the likelihood of conflicts. Happy people are less likely to move somewhere else, or start fights.
You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that 'trade' is equivalent to 'spreading the wealth.' This is an unfortunate connection to make, because trade actually makes both sides richer, it gives them both something they want more in exchange for something they want less. Improving the standard of living around the world is not charity.
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