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Parody and Satire Videos, Which Is Fair Use?

Hugh Pickens writes "Ben Sheffner writes that both sides in Don Henley's lawsuit against California US Senate candidate Chuck DeVore (R) over campaign 'parody' videos that used Henley's tunes set to lyrics mocking Sen. Barbara Boxer (D) have now filed cross-motions for summary judgment, teeing up a case that will likely clarify the rules for political uses of third-party material. The motions focus largely on one issue: whether the videos, which use the compositions 'The Boys of Summer' and 'All She Wants to do is Dance,' are 'parodies,' and thus likely fair uses, or, rather, unprivileged 'satires.' The Supreme Court in Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, 510 U.S. 569 (1994), said that a parody comments on the work itself; a satire uses the work to comment on something else, so for Henley, this is a simple case: DeVore's videos do not comment on Henley's songs but use Henley's songs to mock Boxer. DeVore argues that his videos do indeed target Henley, who has long been identified with liberal and Democratic causes, and asserts that the campaign chose to use Henley's songs for precisely that reason. 'DeVore's videos target Henley only in the loosest sense,' writes Sheffner, 'and his brief's arguments ... sound dangerously close to the post hoc rationalizations dismissed as "pure shtick" and "completely unconvincing" by the Ninth Circuit in Dr. Seuss Enters. v. Penguin Books USA, Inc., 109 F.3d 1394 (1997).' The case also bears directly on the recent removal of the 'Downfall' clips from YouTube where many journalists have almost automatically labeled the removed videos 'parodies' while the vast majority aren't, says Sheffner."

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  1. Political speach by HungryHobo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was under the impression that for the most part political speech enjoyed a far higher level of protection than most and this seems to fall very clearly into that category.

    1. Re:Political speach by elnyka · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was under the impression that for the most part political speech enjoyed a far higher level of protection than most and this seems to fall very clearly into that category.

      You are confusing freedom of speech (politically motivated and otherwise) with fair use. Imagine for example (and just for shits and giggles) that during the last presidential elections, the Republican party decides to make a satire of Obama at the tunes of, say, one of Michael Jackson's songs (say, "Beat It".) You could alter the roles with the Democratic party making a satire of McCain/Palin (as well as changing the name of the artist and type of art being used) but the essence is the same - a satire and form of political speech using copyrighted material without parodying the copyrighted material herein used.

      It would be legally reasonable that the Jackson's camp would be entitled for monetary fees due to the usage of those songs for purposes other than parodying the song and the artist. The law would recognize the artist' claim (which should not be construed as an attack to freedom of speech.)

      As for the analogy with the removal of the Hitler parody videos, I'm sad to see them go, but the law is clear in that satires are not protected in the same way parodies are (wrt of using copyrighted material). None of this should be construed either as an attack to freedom of speech in the form of satire or parody.

      Unfortunately, the law is (or seems to be) clear on this. I hope that someday (sooner I hope) the law gets amended so that satires done for non-commercial purposes get the same protection wrt copyrighted materials (at least so that we can all enjoy Hitler going at it for lolcatz sake).

  2. I thought it was pretty simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Parody but don't *use* the original work. When Weird Al makes a song parody (ignore for the moment that he gets permission and probably shares in royalties) he and his team don't just take the original music and sing over it. It's RE-RECORDED. That's the key. You can get away with the similarities and same song composition but you have to at least lift a finger and do the work yourself. You wanna be lazy, then the consequences are paying someone else, either for use of the work or as damages in a lawsuit later.

    1. Re:I thought it was pretty simple by Jahava · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Parody but don't *use* the original work. When Weird Al makes a song parody (ignore for the moment that he gets permission and probably shares in royalties) he and his team don't just take the original music and sing over it. It's RE-RECORDED. That's the key. You can get away with the similarities and same song composition but you have to at least lift a finger and do the work yourself. You wanna be lazy, then the consequences are paying someone else, either for use of the work or as damages in a lawsuit later.

      Weird Al actually parodies the song itself, so he could talk over it karaoke-style if he wanted to. He's probably re-recording it because it gives his parody a more professional polish and gives him some musical creative freedom. He really doesn't have to do that in order to be parodying the song. I also heard in an interview with him on NPR that, even then, he still seeks permission from every artist he parodies just to avoid any potential legal conflicts (citation needed).

      As I understand it, however, even if you re-record someone's music, it's still subject to copyright. The first case that comes to mind is the Coldplay vs. Joe Satriani lawsuit, where Joe alleged that Coldplay stole some of the melody from one of his songs. In this case, even though Coldplay clearly physically played the music, it was still potentially subject to copyright.

    2. Re:I thought it was pretty simple by dan_sdot · · Score: 3, Informative

      I remember that Satriani v. Cold Play lawsuit. I'm not lover of Cold Play, but it seemed like a bit of a stretch on Satriani's part.

      The problem here is that Copyright Law if just poorly thought out, ambiguous, and lacking common sense.

      When is one piece of music copying another? When are two pieces of music "different enough" to be considered different pieces of intellectual property? These are actually much more complicated questions than you might think (and this is just talking about music copyright).

      All music crosses lines with other music to a certain extent. Check out these two youtube videos for a quick and witty illustration by a couple musicians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I
      and
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM

      PS: Also, it's funny how everyone on Slashdot is all of a sudden on the side of the copyright enforcer.

  3. Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by spun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Political speech enjoys higher levels of protection, but misuse of copyrighted works is not a free speech issue. It is a, oh what's the word, copyright issue. You do understand that, in order to work at all, copyright trumps free speech, except in limited circumstances like fair use and parody.

    Republicans have a long, sordid history of using music without permissions, they especially love to use songs from artists who are not Republicans. Google 'republicans stealing music.'
    This was the first page that came up: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/77309/a_pattern_of_republicans_stealing_music_from_bands_who_don't_like_them/
    Here's another: http://www.theinsider.com/news/1264982_Can_the_Republicans_Stop_Stealing_Everybody_s_Music
    And another: http://crooksandliars.com/2008/06/14/mccain-caught-stealing-democratic-music

    It's pretty amazing how often they do it, and get away with it despite the protests and legal actions of the artists involved. It's the Republican party saying, "We don't have to play by the rules, fuck you!" to artists who disagree with them. Classy.

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    1. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by osgeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Free speech is about being able to get your message out against the government. To say that "copyright trumps free speech" is exactly wrong. Where copyright is counter to free political speech, copyright gives way.

      Good liberalism supports totally free speech: freedom of speech, freedom of expression. For supposed "liberal" artists to get upset when their works are used as free speech is hypocritical.

      If there's one thing that Americans left and right should have solidarity on it's the support of the Bill of Rights. Any politician of any political flavor who doesn't support FREEDOM for the citizens of our country should be fought tooth and nail. It's amazing how many people just don't seem to get that and try to pick and choose the freedoms that they like the exact way that they like them.

    2. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Free speech is about being able to get your message out against the government. To say that "copyright trumps free speech" is exactly wrong.

      They are two completely different issues.

      Mock the king[1] all you want - but do it in your own words, not mine[2] - else you're just as much of a leecher as he is.

      [1] of course he won't understand anyway, unless ye doeth itt iynn ye Germannical tongue.
      [2] unless I say so, in which case pay up.

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    3. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by spun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bullshit, you can't use copyrighted material in a political ad or speech without paying for it. Period.

      All the rest of your post is a similar worthless obfuscation and appeal to emotion. If you want to make outrageous contra-factual claims, back them up with, oh I don't know, the relevant passages from the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

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    4. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by Pharmboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Where copyright is counter to free political speech, copyright gives way.

      Wrong. You can still make your message without using someone else's work, so it would in no way infringe your first amendment rights. You don't lose your rights to your own work simply because someone else has a political bone to pick.

      You also don't have the right to walk into my house and make a political speech. Your first amendment rights don't "trump" my property rights. You have the right to make your speech in a public place, your home, or the home of anyone who allows you permission to gain access. Whether you, me, the copyright owner, the satirist, whoever, is a Liberal, Conservative, Libertarian, Librarian or whatever, is meaningless in the context of rights.

      And on the main point, it is pretty simple: Parody makes fun of the work you are borrowing from (Wierd Al), Satire is when what you are making fun of is not related to the material being used at all. Why this is an issue when they are clearly defined in law is beyond me. This is why most legal satire uses familiar music that is in the public domain (the tune from Yankee Doodle, etc.) Mark Russell is an old school political satirist who seems to have understood this.

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    5. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by HungryHobo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It just seems odd that while you can twist a work to mocks/comment on the original work( which is politically fairly worthless) you cannot twist a work to mock/comment on what it was used to promote(which is politically fairly worthwhile).

    6. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by bkpark · · Score: 4, Informative

      This was the first page that came up: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/77309/a_pattern_of_republicans_stealing_music_from_bands_who_don't_like_them/
      Here's another: http://www.theinsider.com/news/1264982_Can_the_Republicans_Stop_Stealing_Everybody_s_Music
      And another: http://crooksandliars.com/2008/06/14/mccain-caught-stealing-democratic-music

      It's pretty amazing how often they do it, and get away with it despite the protests and legal actions of the artists involved. It's the Republican party saying, "We don't have to play by the rules, fuck you!" to artists who disagree with them. Classy.

      It's not quite so clear as far as accusations of "stealing" goes. There is something called compulsive licensing (for example, a radio station playing a music does not have to individually seek permission of the artist; it just has to pay a rate set by law). So, by law, anyone can play the music publicly as long as they pay the license fee set by law, no individualized permission from artists needed (and given the compulsive nature of this licensing, I doubt they can revoke this congress-granted permission; Lessig talks about this as being a case where Congress balanced the rights of copyright holders with public good).

      Especially in the McCain campaign case, you will read about the artists returning the license fee—that's because McCain campaign played the music legally and paid the legally set license fee, as required by law. The artists can refuse the fee as a publicity thing if they want, but that doesn't change the fact that McCain campaign fulfilled all its obligations under the law.

      Of course, why they would want to promote artists whose political views diverge so far from conservative views is baffling to me, but in any case, the only sense in which the campaign "stole music" is in the sense in which McCain campaign didn't seek permission that they didn't have to seek under the current law (but some people, like Weird Al, do seek such permission even if he doesn't have to, so you could argue it as a matter of courtesy—but not as a matter of law, as "stealing" implies).

    7. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by gtbritishskull · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Uhhh... citation needed? Do Democrats actually use more songs than Republicans without getting permission first?

      Also, allowing someone to use your work for free is a way of contributing to a campaign. Are you saying this is wrong?

    8. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by bkpark · · Score: 5, Informative

      Let me Google that for you.

      In your defense, I did misspell it. It's "compulsory licensing", not "compulsive licensing". It's a well-established legal practice (it dates from late 19th and early 20th century, when faithful reproduction of a work became easy with radios, etc.).

      Read Lessig's Free Culture, if you want to inform yourself properly. He'll explain it better than I can anyway.

      Oh, right. Since you can't use Google, here's the link to Free Culture (he has a PDF there).

    9. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by Moridineas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly, I think this is what Spun misunderstands. These left-wing bands complaining (eg Heart/Barracuda) when Barracuda was played at Palin rallies is no different from when Sam Moore demanded that Obama stopped using Hold On, I'm Comin. You can't control who plays your song, or who listens to your song.

      If a political campaign (as in the case of this story) uses a song in a paid ad, that's a very different case. One can't just conflate these widely disparate examples and come across with a "REPUBLICANS ARE DIRTTY LYING THEIVESS ZOMG!!" conclusion (as a 10 second google finds examples on both sides of the aisle),

      I personally find this area tricky and troubling ground. There's so much creativity on Youtube and elsewhere that can just be totally SQUASHED by law. As mentioned in the summary, Downfall is a great example, but in general--music videos, remixes, etc... I think it would be a sad world if we lost all of that.

    10. Re:Republicans stealing music again? I'm shocked. by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That being said, this isn't a matter of free speech. You're suggesting that I should have the right to freely redistribute Avatar if I accompanied it with political speech.

      Well, no. There's violating copyright while making some kind of political statement, and then there's torturing the very people you're trying to convince. Why would you do that? Why distribute Avatar? There are far more humane ways of communicating your message.

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  4. I can understand why Henley is pissed by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Use of Don Henley's well-known music implies that he supports the DeVore, which he clearly does not. In that sense, it is defamatory to Don Henley. Also, there argument that "It is parody because Henley is a liberal" is absurd, they seem to be arguing that it would be unlawful to rip off a well known conservative's music, but it is perfectly ok to rip off a well-known liberal?!? This is the same race that saw Carly Fiorina's "Demonic Sheep" ads? I think it will go down in history as the pinnacle of Repugnantcan douchebaggery, an affront to intellectual conservatives everywhere.

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  5. Re:Legal "satire" vs. literary "satire"? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Satire is perfectly legal. What the summary is saying is that you cannot repackage someone else's copyrighted works in a satire against a third party.
    Of course both songs were written and recorded over 20 years ago, they should both be in the public domain by now if copyright had a reasonable duration (Ok I would consider it reasonable if their copyright expired in 2012).
    Personally, I think this case is a perfect example of why copyright should be shorter. These songs sum up the message that DeVore wants to convey about Barbara Boxer and our culture would be much richer if such songs could be used for the purpose intended here.

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  6. Democrats getting a pass on theft? Yep. by d3ac0n · · Score: 3, Informative

    The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because Democrats never get CAUGHT stealing music, doesn't mean they don't steal.

    Actually, it's more like: Democrats get whatever they want from their good buddies at the RIAA and get a pass from lefty music artists. The charge never comes up because no lefty musician or music company EVER MAKES IT. (Ya don't eat your own, don't ya know.)

    But the moment any Republican uses ANY music by any left-leaning musician, an army of lawyers and Old Media types scramble to find if they "stole" it. That just doesn't happen with Democrats.

    Prime example: During the last Presidential election the McCain campaign was accused of "stealing" the song "Barracuda". The problem for the accusers was that the McCain campaign already had a contract with the company that held the rights to that song that allowed them to play it. Yet WEEKS of hay were made from a literal non-story because the original artist didn't like the McCain camp using it, despite them having met the legal requirements for use.

    So forgive me if I take your "Republicans steal music" "evidence" with a MOUNTAIN of salt. History has taught me to deeply distrust leftist "news" sources.

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  7. Re:The Penny Arcade-Strawberry Shortcake comic? by canajin56 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, you, and the general public at large, might see them as different, legally they are not. If you take a Mickey Mouse comic from way back when, and just copy it with a new word bubble, obviously copyright violation, right? If you draw your own character that looks sort of like Mickey Mouse? That's just as much copyright violation, even if you drew every last pen stroke yourself. Fair use, which includes review and parody, is a defense against copyright violation via derivative work. Penny Arcade got in trouble because drawing Strawberry Shortcake is a copyright violation, and fair use is their only possible defense. However, fair use does not allow for making copies of one person's copyright to parody a third-party. Their own lawyers told them that, and they took it down. That's the law.

    Mind you, the law is subject to change. Twenty years ago judges verbally berated Sega and Nintendo lawyers on separate occasions for abuse of copyright law. Nintendo tried to sue Game Genie for allowing owners to modify their game code. The judges said that people are free to enjoy their purchase any way they want, and artists have no right to dictate how their works are enjoyed. This opinion is now scoffed at, and artists very much do somehow have the right to dictate how purchasers of their works are allowed to enjoy them. Sega, on the other hand, like Nintendo, used early early DRM to lock out third party game carts on their consoles. They sued Accolade for copyright violation for cracking the DRM. A judge got very angry with them, calling them monopolists and dismissing with prejudice, saying no law permits them to lock people out of their hardware. Now of course, there is such a law, and nobody bats an eye at locked down systems. Crazy that only 20 years ago the very idea was disgusting, and now you're a madman for objecting.

    That may seem off-topic, but both those cases were about derivative works. Game Genie was about the right of the consumer to create their own derivative works, which we're now told we do not have. Though we're told by RIAA/MPAA/TV execs, and might possibly still have that right, if you find a judge who will follow the law. And the Sega case was about the right to reverse engineer for compatibility, which we certainly no longer have. Well, except the DMCA, which outlawed it in the first place, has exceptions for compatibility, but those exemptions to not stop Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft, from suing anyway. So, while parody defenses are pretty set, so were those rights, and they changed, though perhaps not legally... Precedent is just a suggestion. In the unlikely event that a judge allows wholesale copying of third-party copyright material in unrelated parodies, that's a hidden boon for The Pirate Bay, which would quickly be renamed to The Parody Bay, and totally legal! Just put a quick mockery of your political figure of choice into your torrent description, and the download along side it is protected as a fair use parody! ;)

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