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NASA Expands Role of International Space Station
coondoggie writes "NASA is looking for a few good experiments to run in space. The space agency this week said it was seeking research ideas (PDF) from private entities who want to do research on board the International Space Station. NASA said it was looking to expand the use of the ISS by providing access to the lab for the conduct of basic and applied research, technology development, and industrial processing to private entities — including commercial firms, non-profit institutions, and academic institutions. NASA said using the ISS as a national lab could help develop a number of applications in areas such as biotechnology, energy, engineering, and remote sensing."
It worked for me when I was renting out a room.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Tell me we're not doing remote sensing experiments on the ISS!
Plane on a giant treadmill... in space!
Fine, Keep your money. But when the planet gets ready to explode, your grandkids are last in line on the spaceship
Come on, we all want to know how sex in space works. Its probably the simplest experiment that would generate tons of interest.
Okay, so let's cut all government funding of NASA because you don't want to support "intellectual curiosity". While we're at it, let's cut all government grants to US higher education institutions. After all, that's intellectual curiosity, too!~ And let's stop giving out government-awarded scholarships to promising students. Why the hell should we all pay because they want to learn more, do some research and solve our problems?~ And none of this publicly-funded disease research shit. Let the big pharma corporations handle it, we all know they're open and willing when it comes to sharing their discoveries and creations.~
NASA emphasizes the utter uselessness of the ISS by asking people what interesting things can be done with it. This after spending billions of dollars and over a decade of work. This money should have been spent exclusively on robotic probes. There is no compelling case here for manned exploration.
I know, I know, the "get off this rock" crowd will now inundate us with their magical-religious space adventure cult emotional arguments.
[citation needed]
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I say we send one up there and plug it in and point a webcam at it.
If you didn't come to party don't bother knocking on my door. Prince '1999'
LSD. In space.
. . . in space?
It might figure out that missing methane mystery.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
I am in complete agreement. I don't want to be forced to pay for those things. I can pay voluntarily, thus if those institutions want my money, then they shall have to take part in activities that benefit me.
'Moral good' is no justification for breaking the law, and all of such spending is in violation of the Constitution. States are free to spend as their constituents desire.
That they are just now doing what they were supposed to be doing since the beginning?
For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
What kind of work is useful to experiment on in microgravity?
I know there's some material science stuff but what else?
And in the meantime NASA has been struggling for funding for scientific projects.
Nice. Taxpayer money at work! Way to go Washington!
RIP America
July 4, 1776 - September 11, 2001
We'll them on the one with Rosie O'Donnell and send it to the sun.
For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
Article I, Section I: "All legislative powers herein granted..."
Nowhere after that statement is Congress granted the authority to do whatever it wishes. Congress is extremely limited in its powers. As James Madison said, "The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."
Sadly since I pissed off 1 to many NASA engineers in the past (blah blah Crusader project by UDLP, blah blah trying making some money... blah blah blah remote mining and processing project... sub orbital meteor mining is a stupid idea...)
Anyway they'll no likely to talk to me (ever again) so here are my suggestions. Please feel free to run with them:
1: Sex (Duh. We all want to know.)
2: Artifical ring construction via centrifical force =
Take a spinning sphere and launch a tethered satellite while still spinning. from the teathered satellite launch another teather out such that the secondary teather is long enough to have the circumfrence of the satellite's oribital circumfurance. See if you can get it to hook up back to the original satellite to create an artifical ring on which we can construct stuff. (may required 2 satellites at opposite sides.
3: Behavior of molten metal in low gravity for crystal structure analysis (see if effect is more brittle or harded.)
4: Better estimate of open space survival time of a human being.
5: Field test atmosphering re-entry capable space suit for orbital deployment of troops (GETA LL WARHAMMA 40K ON YA!)
6: Polymer extrusion and blown film line test in low gravity for polymer chain linkage testing.
7: Smoking in the cargo bay in low-G (Can you blow smoke rings in low-g)
8: Will a paper airplain with a weight of less then .5 lbs survive re-entry to Earth?
9: Subspace structural testing to see if spacial structure exists (e.g. test if space itself has an actual shape, e.g. a quantum of space itself (rather then an infinitly divisible continum))
10: Test if the bullshit in DC is so thick you can really smell it on the ISS.
Just a few...
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You probably should read the Constitution more carefully if you think that funding education, research, and national defense are counter the Constitution's purpose.
I'll bet the use of your taxes to pay for public libraries really pisses you off too! You just sit there drinking your tang, typing on your computer and watching your satellite TV, bitching about all the money wasted on the space program...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
I would like to see how much weight Dave Tate could bench press aboard the ISS.
Wait, they want to turn the International Space Station into a national lab? What about all the other countries with a stake in this real estate?
I do not need my government to give me stuff. By the pursuit of happiness, I mean of course things like keeping monopolies from abusing their positions and encouraging real competition in the market place. So I can get rich if I really work at it.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
Well it was before the Supreme Court fucked the citizens of the US out of their freedom with a truly horrible interpretation of the commerce clause.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
The International space station is now a national lab.
Wow you're a major socialist...
I only want 3 things.
1 - to actually own the property I paid for... no your plot of land and your house are not yours, they belong to the feds,state,and city. any one of them can come and take it when they please.
2 - to actually be free to do what the hell I want as long as I dont hurt others.
3 - to get the hell off my lawn!
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Does pursuit of happiness include an education? Millions of extremely hard working but uneducated people would suggest that this is the path to being tired and poor, not rich.
The enemies of Democracy are
How do the Zerg fly in space?
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If only the world would be so simple...
"Paying for the poor" helps to keep the place nicer all around, meaning you have more chance at all of "pursuing happiness". BTW, inancing first two things inevitably gives more opportunities for that pursuit to quite small group of people. And as to your ability to pursue happiness...people have shown time and time again that they generally have a hard time at moderation, a hard time not living on the credit of future generations (this graph is especially "inconvenient")
No, I'm afraid it's not so simple.
One that hath name thou can not otter
I should not be forced to pay for the intellectual curiosity of others.
Actually, it's intellectual incuriosity that I'm tired of paying for.
"I do not need my government to give me stuff."
Uh.. except apparently for military protection, electricity, clean water, sewage disposal, a ride, and access to information. No stuff there. Well, at least nothing "the poor" would be interested in: you certainly won't have to worry when they come through your windows in the night.
The US Constitution states that is is our right to pursue happiness, not that the government will help us in our pursuit in any way. (I assume that's the pursuit to which you refer.)
BTW, when you're rich (and old, and nobody likes you or the way you smell), what will you do then? I know of some hot real estate deals on Mercury, if you're interested.
...supposed to be proposed before the ISS was launched?
I'm sorry, but I'm a big fan of NASA and I find this whole effort to be ridiculous. The ISS was sold as a tool that would provide all of these critical capabilities and now, all of a sudden, they have to drum up business.
Sorry, but the ISS has officially become a Solution In Search Of A Problem.
Am I confused? How an International Space Station becomes a national lab? Isn't it supposed to be International?
Does anyone can tell how much each country/space agency puts in (costs, investigation output, media coverage, etc.) the ISS?
But why do you want to get the hell off your lawn? It's such a nice lawn...
Used because there is nothing else for you to argue with.
Nowhere after that statement is Congress granted the authority to do whatever it wishes.
Err, huh? Collecting income taxes is already legal under the 16th amendment. And the part you cite talks about *legislative powers*. Nothing in that text limits about how the federal government may spend that tax revenue once it's been collected.
To be more accurate, mostly unused, and that is recycling of *anything* that needs to be hauled up there. They should be exploring repurposing/reuse of any of that thousand$ a kilo stuff they haul up. All of it, no exceptions. I know they recycle astrowhizz now, but they should be doing it with everything. "Trash runs" back are silly. Space faring people will be recycling everything, so the sooner they develop the tech, the better, and that won't happen until they get a mindset change. There really should be no such thing as "space trash", it should be "temporarily not needed valuable materials which we will need later". Once it is launched, it gets used forever, one way or the other.
Heck, I am in favor of them leaving the last shuttle up there as well, see if they can keep it running and rebuild it for a real space ship. Not needing to do re-entry and expensive launch anymore, that cuts down on a ton of the maintenance already.
We do something like this on the farm with older trucks. Once they aren't really road worthy, but still driveable, they just get used exclusively on the farm. The dump truck I use hasn't been road registered for years, but will still crank and run and dump. Why waste a still functioning truck? And when a piece of gear *really* isn't functional anymore, we still scrounge parts and stuff from it to build into something else or reuse it somehow. No waste. If it is steel and cost loot in the past, it is kept and reused somehow, like a little torch and welder action, got another useful trailer. Will=way
So, why waste a still functioning shuttle spaceship, especially once it is already up there? We have enough old aero-crap sitting in museums, or tech morgues like I like to think of them, plenty to "inspire the next generation of sci-nerd-youths", whereas a space based working environment and functional space ship in orbit is more useful, or has more potential, put it that way.
They need a mindset change more than anything else to start this experiment. Too many decades of easy money methinks.
The one constant whose accuracy to this day is horribly disappointing really should be easier to measure in microgravity, or not?
Libraries? Schools? A police force to catch your mugger?
Clearly you have never read the Constitution.
Wow you're a major socialist...
I only want 3 things.
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3 - to get the hell off my lawn!
You want to get off your own lawn? Be my guest.
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You're not saying too much now, are you clone53421, after you've been exposed for being a libellous little scumbag eh? It appears that the truth's out about your signature you used to libel another person here with.
Despite your stating you obey laws and such, it shows in your signature that You do anything but obey laws, based on your libellous signature.
What you're getting in return just really only serves you right that you're being exposed for the worthless ne'er do well you are, with a hooker (or shall we say 'dancer', which is only hooker spelt sideways when you come down to it) for your wife.
The ac exposing your libelling others only has 1 thing wrong. You do have a job. As your 'dancer' wife's pimp.
Don't worry. I'll be sure to give you job performance feedback the next time she gives me a b.j. for peanuts in the 'private room' at the strip joint, as to her 'job performance'.
I've got one! It involves mento's, and a certain popular carbonated - and very acidic - beverage.
Rigorous testing would test trajectory, distance, and possible orbital acceleration or coupling. And eventual return paths - if any.
Electrical and mechanical effects on the ejecta would need to be scrutinized. And their interaction with other bodies in LEO.
It would probably be remotely activated, from down here, to ease cleaning problems and expedite the delivery of adequate quantities or detergent and paper towels.
I'm sure adequate support could be found through a convergence of campus fraternities.
If that doesn't work, start an urban legend and see if the busters can be interested in it.
Just. You know - an idea. Just trying to help. Do my part. :)
I just want the Government to give me 3 things. A standing military... and to protect my ability to Pursue happiness.
Good luck getting those two to coexist.
The purpose of a standing military is 1) to route your tax dollars to defense contractors, and 2) to stop you from doing anything the military-defense complex doesn't want you doing.
Oh, you thought all those high-tech weapons would only ever be used against brown people in foreign countries, who don't count? And that building a highly armed totalitarian order-giving hierarchy would increase democracy in your country? You didn't want Iraq war graduates using their newfound urban policing skills in your malls and on your sidewalks?
Sorry, you might have wanted freedom, but you asked for a standing military instead, and that's what you're getting.
You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
I think if there's going to be more research going on, there needs to be more experiment space. Only way to do that is either mount experiments on the main truss (but that has limited slots though a few are open) that can be retrieved by the main robot arm and either retrieved via the main airlock or the sample airlock on the japanese module, or more pressurized modules. NASA already is committing to leaving one of their cargo carrier modules up there permanently, but that's just recycling existing equipment for a one way trip. The only other viable way for modules is delivery via tugs with rendezvous capability (Progress/OTV/ATV, maybe BlockDM, maybe Dragon). Which pretty much narrows it down to a Bigelow Aerospace inflatable module due to size and weight constraints, if you want something capacious. There is the outstanding power issue, since it will be difficult to send up any more solar arrays for the main truss (not stopping you doing something on the russian end, but that isn't such a great idea), which means you are still power limited.
Power is going to be a big deal in the future. The VASIMR rocket test will chew a lot of power, and if they ever do that electrodynamic tether propulsion experiment, that will chew a lot of power too. I suppose the alternative is to send up a ground facing energy receiver, either a different solar array/ (solar cell or stirling engine reflector dish) or an inflatable rectenna, and send energy from a series of ground based stations via laser or microwave (space solar power system in reverse), but I imagine there are a lot of other satellites that would prefer not getting cooked...
1 - to actually own the property I paid for... no your plot of land and your house are not yours, they belong to the feds,state,and city. any one of them can come and take it when they please.
I think you forgot 'landlord' in there.
You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
Police do not seem to do a very good job at protecting people. They are not too bad at catching the criminal that killed you. They are very good at catching a criminal that kills a cop. Protection though is not their strong point. For that what you need is a populace that may or may not at any time be carrying a concealed weapon. That will prevent alot of crime.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
Carrying a weapon (and lack of public police) was the standard for vast majority of human history. And it was a lot less crime then, right?...
One that hath name thou can not otter
1 - so...who owns it "originally"? Why the one you bought it from was the "owner"? Who and why decides that?
2 - who decides what does it mean "not hurting others"? You?
3 - I'm sorry, you might not want to realize this, but for the two above points, and generally for your comfy standard of living, you need the society (ohhhh, that's already close to the scary word)
One that hath name thou can not otter
clone53241, the pussy bullshit artist, attempting to play 'attorney online' lmao:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31746938
So sue him then, pussy. Go for it. I think that once your real name is known to those you libel you'll really be hurting then. Of course, no balls wimps like you are all talk. After all, You're the one talking about "exercising legal options" pussy. Go for it. What an unbelieveable little scumbag weasel and pussy, libeler, and liar that likes to be the "pot calling the kettle black". Lots of talk there clone53421, but no action, and as you said, "actions speak louder than words" big talker wannabe 'internet attorney online' that you are (that likes to libel others no less with malicious intent).
"In case you didn't already know this, changing your IP address to defeat Slashdot's anti-spam mechanism constitutes both fraudulently misrepresenting yourself (A CRIME, as I already told you) and also considered unauthorized access to a computer system (HACKING)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @08:25PM (#31743416)
I'll just quote the person you gave a hard time to over there on that because I am basically wondering the same and would like to see your proof too, thanks:
Oh, really? Care to show me a legal precedent OR ruling of that being the case, were I switching IP addresses to overcome the "10 posts per 24 hour limit" on AC users? I sign off as APK, so I am NOT "misrepresenting myself" here, in case you hadn't noticed, lol!
You also stated that YOU are being stalked? clone53421, you did the same to this very guy apk you were was bothering there and its stated from the outset.
Once more, clone53421 the bullshit artist with "legal options he can exercise" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31746938 (ahem: *cough* "BULLSHIT" *cough*) doesn't seem too credible, intelligent, and is a stalker of others himself. You are pitifully stupid clone54321, you know that? The very things you said the ac apk was doing to you, you do yourself and worse. Amazing, and you wonder why you are being shamed now like this? You had it coming. Jerks like you are what ruin the internet.
The proper counterpoint is that it violates the Constitution, plain and simple. Nowhere in the Constitution is Congress granted the authority to pay for such things.