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The US Continues Its Reign As King of Spam

An anonymous reader writes "The United States continues its reign as the king of spam, relaying more than 13% of global spam, accounting for hundreds of millions of junk messages every day, according to a report by Sophos. However, most dramatically, China – often blamed for cybercrime by other countries – has disappeared from the 'dirty dozen,' coming in at 15th place with responsibility for relaying just 1.9% of the world's spam."

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  1. Less spam on the weekend by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I see about a 40% variation in spam during the week. The minimum seems to be Monday morning for me, which is Sunday night in the US. I definitely get the impression that it drops off when work computers are shut down for the weekend.

    1. Re:Less spam on the weekend by jamesh · · Score: 3, Funny

      Me too. I recently got an email with a subject "JAMES URGENT HELP REQUIRED FIRST THING TOMORROW. SHIPMENT NO 40" and it was only because I thought "hmm... I don't normally get spam at this hour" that I read it to find that it was actually a legitimate email. An all caps subject with 'URGENT HELP REQUIRED' in it is almost always spam.

    2. Re:Less spam on the weekend by buchner.johannes · · Score: 3, Funny

      Woman to husband: "Please turn off the light so I can sleep."
      World to USA: "Please turn off the computers on the weekend so we can get to work."

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      NB: The message above might reflect my opinion right now, but not necessarily tomorrow or next year.
    3. Re:Less spam on the weekend by halowolf · · Score: 2, Funny

      This story reminds me of older Slashdot discussions on using blacklists to stop spam and how entire countries should be blocked. I pointed out that they should start with the USA but they didn't really like that point of view, being American and all.

    4. Re:Less spam on the weekend by V+for+Vendetta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It depends at which kind of spam you're looking at. And in these days we should perhaps start to distinguish the different types.

      If talking about the "classic spam" aka email spam, then yes, I agree with your observation.

      However, (forum) comment spam in our case (Germany) stems mostly from IP address blocks allocated to Russia and former-USSR countries (Azerbaijan, Belarus, Latvia etc.) and China. I would guesstimate those two make up of 80% of the spam attempts. Very few comment spam attempts stem from IPs allocated to U.S. providers, so the U.S. is at least for us not "King of spam" there. The remaining 20% are equally shared between North America, Europium and African IP addresses. Of the top of my head, I can't remember comment spam from South America or Australia/New Zealand.

  2. We're Number One !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    We're number one !!!!
    U.S.A. !!!

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    2. Re:We're Number One !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

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      I nearly fell for this, but a deal genuinely this good wouldn't have been offered to every reader. Generally, I only respond to offers with a fair amount of built-in exclusivity, such as when I happen to be the 1,000,000th visitor to a site.

  3. Good filters have hidden the problem by beakerMeep · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Good spam filters like Gmail's and other have really hidden the problem from public view. People seem to much more freely post their email adresses in forums nowadays with little to no fear of it being harvested. Of course it does get harvested, but they dont care as they don't see it. I guess that's not such a bad thing though, but it's still a strain on the internet as a whole I would think. I wonder what the data size numbers look like rather than % of messages by country. Anyways, my point is just that I wonder if there will be little to no effort going forward from government types or PHB's who don't wanna spend the money for something that doesn't seem to be a problem.

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    1. Re:Good filters have hidden the problem by Kenja · · Score: 4, Informative

      On a domain I've had since the 80's I get around 500-1000 spam messages a day. Google's (postini) spam filter catchs about 95% of them. 25-50 spam messages a day is still too many, and gods help me if I have to go in search of a message that got filtered unintentionally.

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      "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    2. Re:Good filters have hidden the problem by maxume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hence the theory that most spammers make their money by selling spam services, not by selling whatever the spam is advertising.

      I guess a better way to phrase that is to say that the people paying to send the spam are the marks, not the people receiving the spam.

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      Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
  4. Spam by the_other_one · · Score: 2, Informative
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  5. The real question is... by tlambert · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The real question is, relaying it FROM where?

    Sure, the U.S. has a lot of mail servers online compared to other countries. That stands to reason, given that the Internet was invented here, SMTP was invented here, email was invented here. Usenet was invented here. AOL was invented here. And SPAM was invented when AOL connected to Usenet.

    Where is the SPAM originating? Is it originating from the U.S. as well? Most of the SPAM I see is Russian or Chinese in origin, with a small fraction of it actually coming from the U.S. itself. I get more SPAM that originates from Nigerian scammers, in fact, than I do from U.S. hosts. Most of the viagra and pharmaceutical SPAM I get is from Europe or from India, where it's legal to sell the drugs in question without a prescription and ship them internationally.

    This article seems to be about blaming the relays, rather than the origin of the SPAM in the first place, and the U.S. is getting caught out because it has more mail servers, or more Windows machines on the net, and these are being exploited to relay the SPAM, rather than SPAM being a predominantly U.S. problem.

    P.S.: I'm not arguing against blacklisting open relays; I still think that's part of the answer

    -- Terry

    1. Re:The real question is... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hi, Terry. Nobody runs open relays any more. The spam comes from zombie windows boxes. Spam wasn't invented when AOL connected to USENET, it was popularized when Cantor and Siegel unleashed the green card spam. For an old-timer, you're remarkably poorly informed.

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    2. Re:The real question is... by yuna49 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm an "old-timer" in a variety of meanings despite my ID, and I know about Cantor and Siegel. Nevertheless, Terry asks the right question and points out how uninformative this article is.

      The article reports that 13% of hosts "relaying spam" reside in the US. But what should we compare that 13% to? According to the figures in the CIA Factbook, some 57% of worldwide Internet hosts are located in the US. So I'd say the article's entire premise is flawed. If the conditional probability of a host spamming were equivalent world-wide then, using the Factbook's figures, US hosts should account for 57% of spam relays, not 13%.

      On top of that, relaying tells us nothing about how spamming works. Spam doesn't come from computers; it starts as some back-alley deal and spreads relentlessly across the globe. Those zombied machines with the ISO country-code domains we all see pummeling our servers aren't the source of the spam either. They're just drones that take their orders from masters far away.

      As Woodward and Bernstein were told, "follow the money." Looking at distributions of Internet hosts tells us nothing about the business of spamming or its effects.

    3. Re:The real question is... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spam was the logical outcome of low sending cost and extremely few consequences. The niche exploited by people like Canter&Siegel, and by AOL's incessant spamming, has its origins in junk mail advertising, and before that in the wars for public billboard space in the cities of Europe, and doubtless had counterparts in ancient Rome and Athens and Jerusalem. and Babylon. In fact, the Tower of Babylon is a good metaphor for what happens now with spam flooding desirable traffic.

      The problem isn't a technical one. It's a social one: The cost of individual messages is very low, especially if the resources to send them are stolen. And the consequences of sending them in bulk are, so far, insufficient to discourage the spammers or the professionals who provide them the tools. Even though spam seems to be rarely profitable, the _expectation_ of profit is enough to lure numerous hopeful or larcenous participants. Prosecutions remain rare, and the upstream providers seem happy to take the cash since they so rarely face consequences for hosting professional operations, and the newer zombie nets are too expensive to bother cleaning up.

      There have been legal attempts to reduce spam. But spam is built on such a classic business model, that of junk mail, that any legislative effort runs headlong into the Direct Marketing Association and their lobbyists, or the equivalent in other countries. As individual technical fixes are applied, other versions of spam services expand to quickly fill the economic niche. So unless the technologically based approaches or the social approaches such as reasonable laws get so effective that the _apparent_ profit is eliminated, we're going to continue to see the deluge.

    4. Re:The real question is... by Njovich · · Score: 2, Interesting

      According to the figures in the CIA Factbook [cia.gov], some 57% of worldwide Internet hosts are located in the US.

      These numbers look completely bogus to me. How on earth is South Korea listed at 301,270 hosts in 2009? This number should be much higher. And this is just checking the best connected country on the planet. Many of the other Asian and European numbers seem to be low estimates too.

      Of course, it could be that they use some definition of 'internet host' that I wasn't previously aware of.

    5. Re:The real question is... by yuna49 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I did a bit of digging, and all the data on host counts appear to be compiled from the ISC Domain Survey. According to the summary on that page, "The Domain Survey attempts to discover every host on the Internet by doing a complete search of the allocated address space and following links to domain names." This would seem to exclude hosts without reverse-DNS records, but I'd need to read the complete study methodology before I could comment intelligently.

      I also looked to see if there were easily-available figures on the number of IP addresses allocated by country but couldn't find any.

      Regardless of the method for counting hosts, it still seems quite likely that US hosts make up considerably more than 13% of all hosts worldwide.

    6. Re:The real question is... by Kumiorava · · Score: 2, Informative

      CIA Factbook: 383 million (2009); note - the US Internet total host count includes the following top level domain host addresses: .us, .com, .edu, .gov, .mil, .net, and .org

      To be clear .com ending in domain name doesn't translate into US based server or computer. Additionally any other ending in domain name doesn't mean that the server or computer is not located in US. The article is very light on actual technical detail so I wouldn't be able to know how that 13% figure came from, but I wouldn't jump into conclusion that it has anything to do with domain names. Here are numbers on internet usage worldwide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users, which would indicate that US should have less than one third of world's zombie machines acting as hosts.

      Naturally tracing the origins of spam is quite difficult, counting the zombie machines sending spam is quite accurate since that is what article is really counting. As you said in global economy a Nigerian prince may use Hungarian hacker who uses US based bot net to distribute a spam message about cheap Indian made Viagra.

  6. According to Sophos by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Insightful

        Not saying they are wrong, but I suspect a more accurate measure of the problem would require many more sources of data.

      Since they rely on statistics generated from their products (not mentioned in TFA but I can't imagine where else they got their data from), there is an automatic bias introduced there.

    SB

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  7. King of Spam by grcumb · · Score: 5, Funny

    I sent 2 terabytes of mail today
    (Sold my soul right there)
    It's the same old thing as yesterday
    (Sold my soul right there)
    I'm a black hat burning out a thousand bots
    (Sold my soul right there)
    Filtering's futile and I won't get caught....

    chorus
    They have blocked all your torrents, you can't even ping
    They've been shaping your traffic into doughnut rings
    But still they can't stop me 'cause of what I am
    For now and forever I'm the King of Spa-am

    King of Spam
    I'll always be
    King of Spam....

    ...With apologies to the Police.

    --
    Crumb's Corollary: Never bring a knife to a bun fight.
  8. Not hard to fix... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know two ways that most of this spam can be reduced so the US doesn't remain #1 here, but it takes a clued system administrator to do so.

    #1: Block outgoing port 25 at the routers other than for the ISP's official mail server, and for clients who have signed a form taking full responsibility for their mail servers, and that any spam originating from them will come back onto their heads, not the ISP's.

    #2: Sane mass mail rules on the mail server. Of course, this doesn't apply to mailing lists, but in general, an average Joe won't be sending thousands of MAIL TOs, nor sending out a 10,000 person bcc mail.

    I don't think the problem is ISPs with open relays like which was the issue in years past, but private companies who have PHBs running the place that have no interest in spending for even the basics in security. I personally have encountered a lot of SMB owners who have told me, "Security has no ROI, so I am not interested in wasting my money on it" when presented with a proposal for even just the basics of network security such as outgoing spam filters on the company's Exchange server. They believe that they can call Geek Squad (or some random computer consulting firm that has the most TV ads) to fix anything if they find a problem. Of course, this means that when (not if) the business gets compromised, spambots can end up on numerous machines, and remain there indefinitely until the Windows Malicious Software Removal tool gets run on a patch day (assuming they even bother turning on Windows Update/Microsoft Update), company data gets destroyed, their ISP cuts their access off for TOS violations, or they find their IP range in a blackhole list and all their E-mail bounces.

  9. With apologies to Weird Al Yankovic by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    There's a sale on quack medical drugs today.
    It's all all 30% off from yesterday.
    There's laetrile, nona juice, and ephedrine for speed.
    Just a Visa or Paypal creds are all you need.

    My partner's in jail, my staff is on the lam.
    We've got botnets with petabytes of hijacked RAM.
    And our ISP doesn't give a tinker's dam,
    'Cause of our reputation as the King of spam.

    Don't miss out on our giant online porno sale.
    (Is my scam out there?)
    We told Grandma she opted in for our e-mail.
    (Is my scam out there?)
    We got lawyers to help preserve our corporate veil.
    (Is my scam out there?)
    We got bullshit and horseshit, we've got tons of fail.
    (Is my scam out there?)

    No doctor will want a medical exam,
    Our chiropractor's part of the insurance scam,
    Get some herbal viagra and become a man,
    'Cos we're known in this world as the King of Spam.

    If you're hawking Chinese knockoffs of Nike shoes, (Is your scam out there?)
    Some 419 scams, offers they can't refuse, (Is your scam out there?)
    With their credit card's keylogged, they can sing the blues, (Is your scam out there?)
    We do fraud, we do larc'ny, anything you choose. (Is your scam out there?)

    Well, AOL shut down Spamford with a slam,
    Alan Ralsky got nailed bigtime by from Uncle Sam,
    But the flood's even bigger than the Hoover Dam,
    'Cause we're known the world over as the King of spam.

    King of spam.
    King of spam.
    King of spam.
    We'll always be King of spam.
    We'll always be King of spam...

    - With apologies to Weird Al Yankovic, and of course, The Police :)

  10. Just to point out the obvious by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not that the king spammers are in the US, it's that the US has the most machines permanently connected to the internet and infected by spambots. The whole statistics is a bit skewed because spam is one of those crimes where the one executing it is not necessarily also the one wanting to do it.

    Just because the machine sending the spam is in the US doesn't mean the one wanting to send the spam is.

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  11. Surprise, surprise. Wait, maybe not so much. by jht · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not a shocker. According to an antivirus company, most spam comes from a place where people use Windows and are clueless about preventing infections. The zombie Windows machines are a big part of the problem, but the command & control systems seem to mainly be overseas. As are a lot of the products/scams being pitched.

    What this says is that in the US users need to do a better job of securing their computers. And all around the world spammers need to be killed.

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    -- Josh Turiel
    "2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
    1. Re:Surprise, surprise. Wait, maybe not so much. by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Last I checked the controlling stations are mostly in Turkey, Malaysia and Ukraine. I'm not entirly sure why, but I guess it's easier to keep control servers online in countries where the police has better things to do than to hunt down criminals that don't affect the local economy... or at least not in a harmful way.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  12. Re:Low spam from China? by _merlin · · Score: 2, Informative

    e-mail to/from China works fine for me in Australia. Almost all of my spam comes from USA.

  13. Re:Low spam from China? by yuna49 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Using the logic I described above, computers located in China spam at about the norm for all computers worldwide. The article reports that 1.9% of relaying hosts are located in China; this is actually slightly better than China's overall share of computers worldwide, 2.1%. (For the US the figures are 13% and 57% respectively.)

  14. USA #1 by antdude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're #1, we're #1. YEAH! Go USA! :D

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  15. FYI: A note on capitalizing SPAM... by tlambert · · Score: 2, Interesting

    FYI: A note on capitalizing SPAM...

    The reason it was called SPAM on Usenet in the first place was as an acronym for "Shit Parading As Meat". You capitalize in order to indicate that it's an acronym.

    -- Terry

    1. Re:FYI: A note on capitalizing SPAM... by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Further, Google is not a verb.

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  16. Re:Hi by 1s44c · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's not that the king spammers are in the US, it's that the US has the most machines permanently connected to the internet and infected by spambots. The whole statistics is a bit skewed because spam is one of those crimes where the one executing it is not necessarily also the one wanting to do it.

    You are quite right. I get loads of SMTP connections from the US but xen.spamhaus filters out almost all of it. The spam that gets though tends to come from servers in south america, the middle east, and sometimes china. I'm wondering if the only reason for that is because spamhaus is better at mapping home IP ranges for the western world.

    It's really sad that I have to drop mail connections from non-business IP space. Windows on broadband is a curse.

  17. Re:Hi by wvmarle · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try greylisting. Anyone using a proper mailer will come through, >90% of spam (my experience) is stopped that way. And actually only mails from new, as yet unknown senders get delayed; friends or business associates you get mail from regularly get through without delay. And what comes through is mostly Nigerian scams, interestingly. Apparently they use proper mailers.

    To me this has proven the best anti-spam measure so far. And by the time the spammers catch up it also means their cost of sending has gone up a lot as it is not "fire and forget" any more but real resources need to be allocated. So far they don't.

  18. Re:Hi by pnaro · · Score: 2, Informative

    Agreed. greylisting is very effective. That and checking SBL/RBL et al go a LONG way to keeping things at a sane level.

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