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Facebook's "Evil Interfaces"

An anonymous reader writes "Tim Jones over at the EFF's Deep Links Blog just posted an interesting article on the widespread use of deceptive interface techniques on the Web. He began by polling his Twitter and Facebook audience for an appropriate term for this condition and received responses like 'Bait-and-Click' and 'Zuckerpunched.' Ultimately, he chose 'Evil Interfaces' from Greg Conti's HOPE talk on malicious interface design and follow-up interview with media-savvy puppet Weena. Tim then goes on to dissect Facebook (with pictures). So, what evil interfaces have you encountered on (or off) the Web?"

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  1. Ok, honestly by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, FB should just give us decent privacy controls because the majority of their users won't bother. So its a win-win. FB gets to use whatever they want and the small number of us who want better privacy controls are pleased.

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    1. Re:Ok, honestly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Its not your data any more. You published it online and lost any control you might have had over it. Sorry.

    2. Re:Ok, honestly by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You could always ... not use Facebook. What they don't have, they can't use.

    3. Re:Ok, honestly by RajivSLK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've been using facebook for a long time now. I know all about zukerberg's questionable past and general sliminess. But tell me this, what lack privacy settings is everybody complaining about? I checked the privacy page just now and it seems I have control over everything I can think of. And the interface is pretty straight forward. Is there something I'm missing? Or are people just having a knee jerk reaction here?

      This is a serious question, if there is a important privacy setting missing from facebook I want to know because I use it everyday.

    4. Re:Ok, honestly by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah, but privacy is also finite. Once lost, it can never be regained.

      It's not at all like MP3s because facts can't be copyrighted. It's more like giving a friend information in confidence, only to find out he sold it to a tabloid.

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    5. Re:Ok, honestly by laughingcoyote · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The comparison still works just the same. If I decide I don't like Slashdot (or any number of other places) anymore, I can quit posting any further, but I can't remove what I already did post. And even if I could, someone may well have mirrored, copied, or reproduced it elsewhere.

      The bottom line remains, never put something on the Internet that you do not want the world to know in perpetuity. Quite often, there is no way to "take it back".

      I'm not even sure there should be a means to take it back. An author can't decide two years later that they regret writing a book, and demand that all copies be confiscated and burned, reviews of it be deleted and destroyed, and other records of it be erased. When you publish something in a public medium, it is part of the public record. Regret it or not, you really can't unsay something.

      "Think before you speak, not after" is really not a bad lesson.

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  2. As soon as you see the word "richer" by sphealey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As soon as you see the word "richer", as in "richer user experience", hold on to your wallet. The only thing rich about a "richer user experience" is how rich it is going to make the person forcing it on you.

    sPh

  3. Less deceptive now by RobertM1968 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FB has become less deceptive in some of their newer things. Not that it's a good thing (the method they have done so). Want to list a certain thing about yourself? Sure. If you have it linked to the page/group/whatever about it. Thus exposing your interests and yourself to the world.

    ...or you can have your profile info page blank.

    No option C anymore.

    So, nowadays, it has become more of a use of strongarm tactics to ensure that your data is everywhere and available to anyone as opposed to deceptively tricking people into doing so.

    I'm not sure which is worse. The current method for me (well, if I cared. Anything I put on FB on my info section is already all over the web or the Star Trek Phase 2 site or IMDB).

    One's very annoying (the "we're posting this info linked to you wherever we choose, or you can choose to have an empty profile" method) and the old method is deceptively evil (the "we'll simply confuse you into allowing us to post your info unless you take the time to stop and read what you are doing and opt out" method).

    I guess a lot of people were getting smarter - especially with so many warnings online and via other FB friends telling people to click/unclick new "hidden" privacy options on FB every time a new change rolled out. So, FB got smart in creating a new way of using that info with no privacy settings to prevent them from - either post the info so they can do what they want with it - or remove all the info entirely.

    1. Re:Less deceptive now by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How about the deceptive photo uploader?

      I went to upload some photos and it told me that the only way to do this way to use the new shiny facebook photo uploader app, and asked me to install it. I said no (no way, in fact) and cancelled out of it, only to be directed to a page that said "you will have to use the simple uploader but it's not as good". Wait, what? Didn't you just tell me that the new app was the only way to upload photos now (yes, yes it did)?

      It's things like that - tricking people into installing facebook apps - that make me question their motives.

  4. Offline Evil Interface - Gas Pumps by rockwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most gas stations have the gas grades from lowest to highest, left to right respectively. However some gas stations reverse the order from right to left, thus possibly hitting the more expensive high grade. Damn evil oil companies :)

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  5. I don't blame him but.... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mark Zuckerberg is a cock. Like anyone he is just doing what he can to be rich but he is shitting all over a lot of people and unfortunately people seem to be fine with this because they don't realise the negative effects of FB until it hits them.

    Mark is not going to give up access to your data, it is what makes him rich, so people need to realise it's not smart to talk about your vagina or how drunk you got in such a public area. Once they realise that's dumb then maybe they'll tell Mark to quit shilling their data and that little twat will have to find another way to get rich.