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Virginia AG Probing Michael Mann For Fraud

eldavojohn writes "Republican Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has requested receipts and research documents relating to nearly half a million dollars in state taxpayer money used to conduct climate change research at the University of Virginia while under direction of Michael Mann, originator of the famous 2001 IPCC Hockey Stick graph depicting rapid climate change. Mann appears to be a prime target for Cuccinelli — who has also requested hearings with the EPA to contest the grounds of their carbon dioxide studies. Mann's expenditures of taxpayer money may become problematic if Cuccinelli finds violations of Virginia's Fraud Against Taxpayers Act. Cuccinelli has been active in pushing conservative views in the past, including an effort to remove the titillating mammary from the beloved Great Seal of Virginia. No end in sight for the politicizing of the science and research surrounding climate change."

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  1. Re:Non-peer Review by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You mean it's not?

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  2. Sue the AG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    When this investigation comes up with nothing, can we sue the AG for wasting taxpayer dollars?

  3. Re:Ken Cuccinelli by Charcharodon · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    There had better be a damn good reason and some solid evidence of malfeasance before such "probing" is initiated.

    I would think a couple of trillion reasons why a probe should be initiated.

    Scientists: "OMFG the sky is falling!
    The Public:What was that?
    Scientists:THE SKY IS FALLING!
    The Public: "Ok you have our attention what needs to be done?
    Scientists:Turn over power and ALOT of money to the government (not just your government but to the UN) to fix everything"
    The Public:"Ok if its as bad as you say it is we've got to do something so just let me see your data and your method and we'll get right on it.
    Scientists:"well errrr...about that data you see we don't actually have the original data any more we sort of deleted it, but we have this other data. It's sort of been massaged, not in any sort of pushing a political agenda sort of way but in a mostly honest in a good intentions sort of way......ANY WHO, tell you what you just sign right here and we'll get things going once the check clears, because of the you know the whole sky is falling thing, and don't worry about those emails you wouldn't get them anyway since they are just a bunch of you know science jokes."

    The Public: Ehhh? Tell you what, how about we think about it and we'll get back to you.
    Scientists: "What more proof do you want we said the "Sky is falling" three times!"
    The Public:"Now we are definitely not buying what you are selling.
    Scientists:"Deniers, racists....feeling guilt yet?
    The Public:Walks out on the conversation.

  4. Government money is always political by Kohath · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    When scientists take taxpayers' money, they should expect politics to come with it. If you want to do research without politics involved, pay for it yourself.

  5. Re:Not Appointed by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If they keep this up, the pope will be running Virginia soon (I didn't capitalize the title on purpose). Then they'll pass laws to mandate diddling kids.

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  6. Re:consider this... by Nimey · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Considering the GOP base's anti-intellectualism and their closeness to Christian fundamentalism, it's forgivable to automatically assume any criticism of science from a Republican is politically motivated.

    Doesn't mean that you shouldn't look into it a bit before making up your mind, but it's a safe bet.

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  7. Exactly.... by ibm1130 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    No end in sight for the politicizing of the science and research surrounding climate change.

    All the AGW advocates had to do was play the science straight and they should have been able to make their point on the merits. For whatever reason thats the one thing they did not do and we are treated to the spectacle of weekly revelations of fraudulent manipulation of the data on a global scale. And these clownshoes still insist that "the science is settled". Nuhuh sez I. They are going to have to work very hard in the full light of day to establish that the books are not in fact cooked. The Mann Hockey Stick is an egregious example of what went on and thanks to the leaks from the East Anglia CRU we know exactly what he did. Fraud. And on the public dime/shilling. Who's he think he is? Dan Rather?

  8. Thought Crime by Required+Snark · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Clearly Mann engaged in thought crimehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime He dared to suggest that the oil/coal/government official denial of climate change might be incorrect. Remember, "We have always been at war with Eastasia"

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  9. Re:Ken Cuccinelli by ShakaUVM · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    >>Maybe because you are an ignorant sheep parroting right-wing political talking points and lies. For a question to be relevant, it needs to be honest and based on fact. Your question was based on right-wing political lies.

    Parroting what?? I've never seen it ever reported anywhere that Gavin was part of Phil Jones little network of friends he was talking about ducking FOIA requests with.

    I discovered the email my own fucking self while reading through the email archives posted online. Perhaps your tiny little communist brain can't understand the fact that RC.org is a bunch of partisan hacks that try to appear to be the voice of reason, and filter out any actual, verifiable, facts that are contrary to their beliefs. Doesn't sound very scientific, does it?

  10. Re:Not the only conservative views he's pushed by amiga3D · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I'm always amazed at this statement. There have been studies that showed that gay individuals "may" have differences in certain areas of the brain. Of course they don't know what to say about the large group of people with these differences that don't show any signs of being gay or the large group of people that don't have these differences but are blatantly homosexual. I personally believe that most, but not all, gay people choose that lifestyle. There is a smaller group that are born with a desire for the same sex. Just as some people are born blind and others are born with missing or misfigured limbs. I don't have anything against either group. What consenting adults do together is not my business. I'm just tired of the bullshit about "I was born this way" when I know that most likely that's just pure fiction.

  11. Re:Ken Cuccinelli by hkmwbz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The troll here is the asshole who misrepresents statements by scientists. The troll here is the asshole who keeps parroting the blatant lies about the hacked e-mails. Go fuck yourself, you anti-scientific asshole.

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