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Scientist Uses Nanodots To Create 4Tb Storage Chip

arcticstoat writes "Solid state disks could soon catch up with mechanical hard drives in terms of cost and capacity, thanks to a new data-packed chip developed by a scientist at the University of North Carolina. Using a uniform array of 10nm nanodots, each of which represents a single bit, Dr. Jay Narayan created a data density of 1 terabit per square centimeter. The end result was a 4cm2 chip that holds 4Tb of data (512GB), but the university says that the nanodots could have a diameter of just 6nm, enabling an even greater data density. The university explains that the nanodots are 'made of single, defect-free crystals, creating magnetic sensors that are integrated directly into a silicon electronic chip.' Dr. Narayan says he expects the technology overtaking traditional solid state disk technology within the next five years."

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  1. How long... by Pojut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...until I can get a decent (120GB+) sized SSD that doesn't cost as much as a new video card?

  2. Wow by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My first PC had 4k of RAM. I should be used to this type of growth by now... but it still makes my heart race a bit when I see ever increasing memory capacity in an ever decreasing form size.

    I'll tell my grandkids about my first PC and they will roll their eyes as they leave my retirement home...

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    1. Re:Wow by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Problem is most software developers and OS makers also race to consume that memory. Honestly all the software today is a bloated blob that is horribly unoptimized for speed and efficiency.

      It's disgusting how bloated most stuff is because we have 4gig of ram and 2 2.5ghz processors... why make it leand and mean? it compiles, ship it.

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    2. Re:Wow by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It may be peaking soon though. 6nm is getting close to physical maximums for most techniques due to the casimir effect. Techniques that push chips from 2d into 3d will be the next useful improvement. But after that point we have run out of easy options.

      Increasing speed of chips and ram could help relieve that pressure mind you. As programmers can tade off more processing for less drive usage, or count on faster ram and compress everything. This will give us a bit more time. Beyond that we will simply have to get more inventive on how we use computers.

      Very very fast internet could become important, if users feel they need access to 10million TB of data personally. That may not be physically feasible on a personal computer. So 'cloud' type services would be important. Having a few duplicates rather than 1million duplicates of any given song is clearly a big improvement. This of course feeding into the idea that when we made the internet we stopped making machines, we just started making components for the one ultimate computer. And when you think of it from that perspective there is tons of room for improvement even if some of the parts are nearing the useful maximums.

    3. Re:Wow by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      why make it leand and mean? it compiles, ship it.

      And what's the answer to your question?

      If it works, why optimize it? To save in storage space? How much would I be saving? 10$ in storage space for every hour of optimization?

      It's not art, it's a business. You could as well ask why we don't replace steel by titanium in cars.

    4. Re:Wow by divisionbyzero · · Score: 3, Informative

      Problem is most software developers and OS makers also race to consume that memory. Honestly all the software today is a bloated blob that is horribly unoptimized for speed and efficiency.

      It's disgusting how bloated most stuff is because we have 4gig of ram and 2 2.5ghz processors... why make it leand and mean? it compiles, ship it.

      Sounds like a reasonable outcome of a cost/benefit analysis. Since when is efficiency an end in itself?

    5. Re:Wow by Thanshin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We should get benefits from newer, faster hardware. Instead we get increasingly lazy programmers and zero net benefit in speed, but with all the negative costs of new equipment purchases.

      We do get benefits from newer, faster hardware. The possibility of hiring cheaper, less prepared, programmers.

    6. Re:Wow by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Funny

      You used the word "bloated" twice.

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    7. Re:Wow by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Funny

      Techniques that push chips from 2d into 3d will be the next useful improvement. But after that point we have run out of easy options.

      Just keep adding more dimensions... Duh.

    8. Re:Wow by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      that is simple - they don't do that or something like that because then your car might last you a long time - and that would cost them money because they wouldn't be able to have you a recurring revenue stream.

      What does using titanium instead of steel have to do with cars lasting a long time? As long as you don't let salt corrode them away, steel-bodied cars will last pretty much forever. Here in the southwest, we don't have any problems with corrosion.

      Besides, automakers wouldn't bother to apply undercoating if they wanted their customers' cars to rust away.

      Sorry but the accelerated use of plastics and cheap alloys isn't an accident or an improvement in cars..

      Now this is just plain stupid. Aluminum alloys improve performance in cars greatly by reducing weight, and also by making engines that perform far better. Most plastics are also a giant improvement; again, weight savings.

    9. Re:Wow by aminorex · · Score: 2, Funny

      Market forces dictate software bloat, not some centralized cabal of scheming plotters designing an optimal return on investment. As long as people buy more and more bloated crap-ahem-itunes-ahem-ware, as long as managers get rewarded for their bloat factors, as long as developers get specs incorporating bloat, the trend will continue.

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  3. Re:4Tb of data (512GB) by biryokumaru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    4 Terabits = 512 Gigabytes.

    Somewhat misleading? Yes. Inherently false? No.

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  4. Not a "chip", merely a "chip". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They have microdots at a 4Tb-per-sq-inch storage density; they don't have any controller that can read and write it.

    This has been "accomplished" numerous times with holographic storage media before. They just never made the read-writers...

    1. Re:Not a "chip", merely a "chip". by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Correct.

      “The next step is to develop magnetic packaging that will enable users to take advantage of the chips,” says the university, “using something, such as laser technology, that can effectively interact with the nanodots.”

      They have a storage medium with nothing to read or write it... yet.

      Although they seem confident that this will come with time, it’s a bit early to be celebrating. Interesting technology, but time will tell whether it’ll ever be usable.

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    2. Re:Not a "chip", merely a "chip". by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They have a storage medium with nothing to read or write it...

      The perfect DRM! They'll make billions!

    3. Re:Not a "chip", merely a "chip". by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > Let'sLet's use something a tad faster...please?

      They'll put a transisitor over each dot and couple it to the dot in some way so that it can be read and written. Then they'll add a matrix of metallization and logic to multiplex access to the transistors. Add decoding logic and drivers and you've got nonvolatile RAM. And your bit density has gone down by an order of magnitude or so. Still very useful, though, if it's fast enough. Nonvolatile RAM with densities and speeds similar to those of DRAM would be a real breakthrough. Add costs per GB similar to those of rotating media and you've got something that will fundamentally change computing.

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  5. Re:4Tb of data (512GB) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nah. If it were the hard drive industry, 4 Tb would be 500 GB.

  6. NCSU != UNC by fred_sanford · · Score: 2, Informative

    BEGIN RANT Seriously, North Carolina State University (NCSU in Raleigh) is not the University of North Carolina (typically in reference to Chapel Hill). One is a school (that I happened to have attended twice) that focuses primarily on Engineering and Agriculture and the other is a liberal arts school down the road. Seriously, fact-check much? http://www.mse.ncsu.edu/CAMSS/bio1.html END RANT

  7. Disks? by pitchpipe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Solid state disks could soon catch up with mechanical hard drives[...]Dr Narayan says he expects the technology overtaking traditional solid state disk technology within the next five years.

    Is shape important in Solid State? It almost seems as if the article is confusing Hard Disk Drives with Solid State Drives.

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  8. 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 4, Informative

    I suppose that depends on which video cards and SSDs you use.

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    1. Re:3 ... 2 ... 1 ... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem with SSDs is:
      1. cheap
      2. big
      3. reliable
      Choose two!
      But even then, you can only be sure of number 3, after some years have passed. For obvious reasons of there not being any test data for years of use, until years of use have passed. ^^

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  9. Another five-years-out technology by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The technology sounds impressive, but then they just give it the kiss of death by announcing that it's five years away. Five years from now it will still be five years away, probably because while it's possible to do, no one has been able to do it in a cost-effective manner. Also if Intel can keep up with their current roadmap, they'll probably be using something close to a 10 nm process. I know that both Global Foundaries and TSMC are working on their 28 nm process (Although they are behind schedule.) so it's not inconceivable that the rest of the industry will already be at that point anyhow.

  10. Single Defect Free Crystal by kenp2002 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ok my knee jerk Six-Sigma reflex has just kicked in. On the manfacturing of those defect-free crystals... and about the cost effect and scaling for "overtaking ... in 5 years..."

    Ok, here is a tip:

    Anytime a politician or scientist taks about 5,8, and 12 year targets there is a reason:

    Two 4 year terms = 8 years; when the project falls out they can blame the canidate currently in office.

    5 years = A single Term but just a touch beyond to provide an incentive for re-election because if you don't they might cancel the project

    12 Year = Two terms for canidiate A and a term for his\her heir... "Don't let the evil Democrats\Republicans kill the project!"

    Now last I checked more then a few grants come in at 3,5,8 and 12 year durations... I never hear things coming to fruition in 7 years, or 6 years, or 9 years, or 11 years, or 18 years, 6 months, and 3 days.

    There is just something about 5, 8, and 12 they love. Which due to the frequency they cite those values implies there is some weird cosmic alignment which causes innovations to pop at those figures... or I smell 4/5 dentists approve BS.

    Another one is the 20 years from now number. What is the maturity on that investment I made...

    I would honestly have a lot more respect for senior scientists if they didn't spend every waking hour working on getting grant money leaving the actual work to low-paying interns and students then claiming the work as their own offering nothing more then a second hand "my team and I" comment...

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  11. Re:4tb != 512gb by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Informative

    > Why the hell they would measure in Tb instead of GB is beyond me though.

    Because each dot stores one bit. They are building chips with arrays of dots, not complete hard drives.

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  12. Re:And thus it begins by Idiomatick · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is /. 512GB doesn't come close.

  13. Re:I hate this... by osgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They don't have any of that information because they don't know any of it. They only have a way IN THE LAB to put a shitload of nanodots onto a medium. They mentioned that they have no packaging (way to read or even really write data into the dots) for an actual product.

    It's like Ben Franklin saying, "Okay, I've discovered electricity. Computers should be along in about five years."

    Okay, it's not that bad, but I hate that five year timeline that is rarely questioned but is thrown out to lure in investors and grant money.

    Slashdot should have an automatic filter that looks for the five year estimate and flags with some "fat chance" special color.

  14. Re:I hate this... by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Informative

    That is why I hate this.
    It reminds me of those Popular Science stores.
    Or even better the one that sticks in my mind. The THOR drive from Radio Shack.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor-CD

    I was so hyped by this in 1988 it sound so cool and it was only a few years away...
    It never came.
    On the bright side we did eventually get CD-Rs and even CD-RWs but not for a good long time after the THOR drive was announced.

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  15. Does anyone "collect" porn anymore? by sean.peters · · Score: 2, Funny

    Given that there's an infinite supply of ever-changing pr0n on the internet available for free, I have to wonder why anyone would bother stashing it on a local disk. It's like saving bottles of air.

  16. Re:I hate this... by osgeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, that Thor drive was some great vapor. My painful promise memory, was hologram storage. Back in 1992, I remember holding on to a hologram storage article from MacWeek that described what was supposed to be a consumer product in a year or so.

    The media was the size of a credit card and they promised it would hold 100x as much as the current best hard drives of the day. It's a real shame because you just know that there was some fairly fraudulent monkey business going on to motivate guys like that to hawk something they had no chance of ever delivering, much less in the time frames they touted.

    It's amazing how the same fraud is passed along by Slashdot every six months in the form of a new holographic storage device that's going to revolutionize everything. It's probably the same core of fraudsters forming new companies and recycling their same tired story to pull in new investment suckers.

  17. Lame Research? by GameGod0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It may be peaking soon though. 6nm is getting close to physical maximums for most techniques due to the casimir effect.

    Not quite sure what the Casimir Effect has to do with magnetic dots, but I should mention that 6 nm is below the Superparamagnetic limit (which is typically tens of nanometers). That means you're magnetic nanodot probably isn't magnetic.

    ... Which brings me to my second point: This article says nothing about what this researcher actually did. It sounds like he just fabricated an array of nanodots, which is nothing particularly groundbreaking.

    Does anyone have a link to the original abstract for the conference presentation? The dots must have been multilayer "stacks", otherwise there's a good chance they won't be ferromagnetic (there's a "superparamagnetic limit" that stops ferromagnetic particles from being ferromagnetic when they get around this size.)

    Lastly, the article says they'll look at housing and using "laser technology" to read back from these nanodots. They mention that as a sidenote, but it's really the most important problem if you want to make something useful. The problem with most nanomagnetic memory techniques is that reading/writing is either impractical or not yet possible.

  18. Re:4Tb of data (512GB) by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2, Informative

    I like the french word for Bytes. Octet. So there is no confusion between 4Tb and 4 To.

    It's probably too late to change bytes to another word in english ;)

    Either the French changed recently, or it didn't have a word for byte until recently. A byte is not strictly defined as 8 bits, it's just that the dominant architectures used 8-bit bytes. Other older architectures used other byte sizes.