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Austria Converts Phone Booths To EV Chargers

separsons writes "Telekom Austria, a telecommunications company, aims to convert obsolete public phone booths into electric vehicle recharging stations. The company unveiled its first station yesterday in Vienna and hopes to create 29 more stations by the end of the year. The stations may not be super popular now, but they should be soon; Austria's motor vehicle association says the country will likely have 405,000 electric vehicles on the road by the year 2020."

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  1. Something is wrong here... by T+Murphy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A company with outdated infrastructure changing it's business model to adapt to changing technology- all in a quick, relatively efficient process? Yeah, you've got to be pulling my leg.

    Wait, do you mean Corporate America isn't doing it right?

    1. Re:Something is wrong here... by masterwit · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But in future, payment, which is expected to cost a single-digit euro sum, will be via mobile phone, Ametsreiter said.

      Ah the irony...I personally welcome new healthy ideas into any market. (Free market with healthy regulation, whatever no political arguments needed here)

      Some more info:

      Telekom Austria's charging stations will leverage the group’s existing infrastructure: the company currently operates 13,500 telephone booths countrywide, of which 700 are multimedia stations. In the first phase, the focus will be on multimedia stations that offer on-street parking opportunities for electric vehicles. By installing additional charging points, each telephone booth will be able to recharge more than one vehicle at a time. By year-end 2010 a total of 30 charging stations will be on stream. According to a survey by Verkehsclub Osterreich, an association promoting environmentally sustainable, socially just and economically efficient mobility, the number of electric vehicles will significantly increase in Austria over the next few years, with e-scooters exceeding 60,000 and e-cars 115,000 by 2015.

      http://www.telegeography.com/cu/article.php?article_id=33006&email=html

      Yes they did not go out on a limb to invest in phone booths, but using existing architecture in an economically and environmentally friendly way to address an emerging market, nice.

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    2. Re:Something is wrong here... by MemoryDragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually Telecom austria is also the biggest mobile phone provider in austria (and a big one in severeal eastern and southeastern european countries).
      Btw. also Austria has more mobile phone contracts than citizense due to the fact that mobile phone services there are dirt cheap and lots of people have more than one contract.

    3. Re:Something is wrong here... by drsmithy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a customer of Telekom Austria, I can assure you that nothing about that company is quick and efficient. They're the former state-run monopoly.

      People love to say this scornfully, but they seem not to realise that if "Telekom $SOME_COUNTRY" _wasn't_ a "former state-run monopoly" then if they didn't live within a hundred metres of their nearest neighbour they wouldn't even _have_ a phone service, and the mere idea of a practically free phone standing on the street would be absolutely laughable.

    4. Re:Something is wrong here... by am+2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      True, but the deduction "formerly state-run" -> "extremely inefficient" shouldn't be as unfailing as it is.

      Though it has become better, Telekom Austria no longer sends three technicians to install a cable (two watching, one working).

    5. Re:Something is wrong here... by Jurily · · Score: 3, Funny

      I loved the part where the submitter felt the need to clarify that Telekom Austria is a telecommunications company. Now if only he could tell us which country it's in...

  2. One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's a phone booth?

    1. Re:One question by SirWinston · · Score: 5, Informative

      > What's a phone booth?

      It's like a Police Box, but without the time travel...

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    2. Re:One question by tjones · · Score: 2, Funny

      A toll booth for the PSTN.

    3. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      > What's a phone booth?

      It's like a Police Box, but without the time travel...

      Whoa! Dude! That's totally bogus.

    4. Re:One question by dakameleon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm sorry, Yo Mama jokes with $variables just don't work.

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  3. why, at that rate... by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why, at that rate, they'll be able to simultaneously recharge 0.06% of the electric cars in the country!

    And with the usual 30 milliamp analog phone line current, it will only take about a dozen years to recharge each car.

    1. Re:why, at that rate... by Bob_Who · · Score: 2, Funny

      ....And with the usual 30 milliamp analog phone line current, it will only take about a dozen years to recharge each car.

      Yeah, but think of all the roll over minutes!

    2. Re:why, at that rate... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why, at that rate, they'll be able to simultaneously recharge 0.06% of the electric cars in the country!

      And with the usual 30 milliamp analog phone line current, it will only take about a dozen years to recharge each car.

      Phone booths in my country have lights for nighttime use so I suppose they have mains supply as well.

    3. Re:why, at that rate... by carlzum · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It probably has less to do with reuse than business opportunity. They provide a service that doesn't justify the maintenance of the booths. They could remove them and relinquish control of the locations. But apparently they control the rights over the locations (at least enough to install chargers) and they're probably convenient and accessible for EV owners. That's an advantage over anyone else trying to enter the market.

    4. Re:why, at that rate... by clemdoc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As far as I know, they're actually not allowed to give up the phone booths. Telekom Austria is the former state monopoly and they're obliged to maintain certain services even though they may not be lucrative anymore.
      (Just as the Postal Service has been forbidden to close certain Post Offices lest the density become too low: Some retirements pensions are actually still paid through the Post Offices and you don't want old people to have to travel for hours to get their money.)
      So upgrading an existing infrastructure that has to be maintained to offer additional services doesn't seem like too stupid an idea.

    5. Re:why, at that rate... by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, I can do arithmetic too. 15 minutes charging a day * 405,000 vehicles = 101250 hours of charging a day, or 4218 charging stations. Except that number is a complete fantasy: the usage won't be spread neatly over 24 hours. There will be sharp peaks morning, mid-day and afternoon, plus concentrated demand in areas with a lot of rich ecoloons who think electricity is "clean" because the gas, oil and coal plants making it are located out in the sticks.

      Even with the best charge rates and distance-per-charge figures, we're looking at needing ten times as many EV charging stations as we currently have fossil fuel stations.

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  4. Location Location Location by lordlod · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I understand their desire to reuse the prime real estate they have for their phone boxes and convert it into a new profitable market.

    However in this case I'm not sure it will actually be so useful. Typically you position phone boxes in pedestrian heavy areas where people can see them and use them. Normally you would want recharging stations in car parks, where cars like to hang out for extended periods of time. Do you really want to base your business model over having cars parked beside the road in busy streets for 6.5 hours at a time? Looking at the phone booth in the picture there doesn't even seem space for a single car to stop.

    1. Re:Location Location Location by j-stroy · · Score: 2, Funny

      This could work, so long as they surround the car parks with a high kangaroo fence...

    2. Re:Location Location Location by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Informative

      This could work, so long as they surround the car parks with a high kangaroo fence...

      Austria not Australia.

      Though for all I know they have a few Kangaroos in Austria too.

  5. bikes, not cars? by serps · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seems more practical to recharge bikes (either electric-assisted, or motorcycles), rather than cars.

    • You can physically get a bike closer to the telephone box than you can a car.
    • You can fill a bike battery an appreciable amount in an hour, given the system's power generation constraints.
    • You can fit a bunch of charging bikes around a box with bike rack technology
    • There's thousands of bike riders in that country already, unlike the car-heavy US
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    1. Re:bikes, not cars? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well the title does say Electric Vehicle Chargers

  6. Re:Department of Redundancy Department by alchemy101 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Some of us can't understand an Australian accent you insensitive clod!

  7. Re:Terrible idea. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only if Austria has phone booths in the Zoo enclosures

    How else would the Kangaroos get news from home?

  8. Re:Where does the energy for thelectricity come fr by clemdoc · · Score: 2, Funny

    we have lots of people who carry the electrons for us. they collect them, put them in buckets and dump'em into the phone booth. no problem. most of the time, we just have the kids do that, as they seem to serve no other sensible purpose. how do you do it?

  9. Not Vehicles, gadgets is more ideal by flurdy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would prefer that we convert the phone booths to mobile phone, iPod, etc ie gadget charging stations.

    May need to offer some lockable lockers with chargers similar to what they offer at music festivals. But not sure terror / vandal paranoid people would accept that.

    I have to admit I still use phone booths, but only as a quiet place to talk on my mobile...

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  10. Location Location Location by mindbrane · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A handful of years ago I gave some thought to some business ideas that could make use of phone booths. I wondered if they could be viably transformed into secure, internet transaction booths, keeping the coin payment system as an option to CC payment. Phone booths have a high profile/key location thing going for them that's just waiting for the right entrepreneurial insight.

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  11. Re:Department of Redundancy Department by Ant+P. · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is Slashdot. Some people would make a serious complaint if that was left out.

  12. Does She Wait With You? by justhiggy · · Score: 2, Funny
  13. About emissions displacement by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    areas with a lot of rich ecoloons who think electricity is "clean" because the gas, oil and coal plants making it are located out in the sticks.

    The advantage of such "emissions displacement" is that it's a lot easier to clean the emissions from one big stationary engine than thousands of mobile engines.

    1. Re:About emissions displacement by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      The internal combustion engines that currently exist are so much cleaner and more efficient than the powerplants that that currently exist that electric vehicles are an environmental nightmare.

      You are completely and totally wrong. Internal combustion engines used in automobiles top out around 25% efficiency. Electric motors used in cars top out around 95% efficient, and they're even over 90% efficient when acting as a generator (during regenerative braking.)

      We can talk again in 30 years, m'kay?

      In thirty years, you might be right; we might be driving EVs.

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  14. Ahnold by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But is an Austrian accent like the Governator's any easier?

    1. Re:Ahnold by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Interesting factoid: Arnold Schwarzenegger asked if he would be allowed to do the voice-over for the Austrian translation of The Terminator. He was denied.

      Apparently, Arnie has a somewhat colloquial accent in his home country, somewhat akin to the deep south in the US, or Norfolk in the UK. He sounds like a farmer.

      "I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle" takes on an entirely different slant when you say it like a hick. Brokeback Terminator.

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  15. Re:Range of electric vehicles? by rtz · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, but you missed an important part of the story, I'll let you find the mistake yourself.

    Hint: You're about one half of a large rotating thing wrong.

  16. Re:Where does the energy for thelectricity come fr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Call Centres, staffed by the unemployed, criminals and retired folk will be employed to call the phone boxes constantly to maintain a 50-75 volt DC ringing signal down the line.