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CBS and CNN Could Be Making News Together

crimeandpunishment writes "More proof of the profound impact cable, the Internet, and other outlets have had on broadcast news organizations. CBS and CNN, who have danced around the idea of a partnership for years, may be ready to move forward. Both news organizations have a lot at stake. Broadcast network news has a gloomy financial outlook, and CNN's ratings need a jump-start."

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  1. Just what they need by NaCh0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Larry King guest starring on 60 Minutes.

    No Thanks. I'll keep my dial set to the hotties and relevant commentators on FoxNews.

  2. News by Spad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe CNN could start reporting actual news instead of relying on their viewers to tweet "interesting" information about the latest celebrity breakups so they can read it out on air.

    1. Re:News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "And we're back. I'm Anderson Cooper, and this is AC 360. Before the break we asked our viewers what they thought of the Obama administration's response to the oil disaster."

      Pwnface69: Obama is gr8 n I think it we have a black president

      "That's a good point. Good input. Let's bring up an opposing view."

      RedNeckBeck72: oblama blew up the rig himself and acorn for the stopping drilling cus global warming scam

      BushLiedKidsDied: it was bush fault lobbyists and haliburton made backdoor deals

      "Quite a diverse array of opinions we have here. Next up, what is the Achilles' Heel of elephants? The answer may surprise you. Stay tuned."

    2. Re:News by prisma · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree with this. Their move toward engaging the less serious folks alienates those of us who are interested in proper news reports. What's also annoying to me is how their Headline News channel seem to be increasingly populated by talk shows. Is there really not enough news going on around the world to report on for 24hrs a day or do their bean counters simply deem it to be too expensive? I'm guessing also that they believe a less casual pop-news format would increase CNN's viewership.

    3. Re:News by Spad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When you primarily limit yourselves to news stories that occur within the US it makes it that much more difficult to fill 24 hours with actual news.

    4. Re:News by vtcodger · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ***Maybe CNN could start reporting actual news***

      Is there anyone there who knows how to do that? It's a little hard to envision any of the CNN "reporters" pulling a Mika Brzezinski and refusing to read the latest pop-culture garbage.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1556022/Paris-Hilton-script-screwed-up-burnt-and-shredded.html

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    5. Re:News by Shivetya · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wait, the C doesn't stand for Celebrity?

      I can handle the HLN format, it at least is quick and you know when there is news and when there is fluff based on the time. CNN is to news what MTV is to music videos, sure they have it but it seems to not be the focus. Fox is too flashy and the networks are too slanted to provide reporting. The state of broadcast news has forced many of us to use the internet sources that gather it all up in one area (google news is my primary but I will bounce to Drudge for fun)

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    6. Re:News by Carewolf · · Score: 4, Informative

      CNN does have real news, but for some reason it is limited to the international editions. CNN Europe, while nowhere near BBC World, it is an actual news network, and if you go to the CNN website you can choose between American and International version. Switching back and forth on the CNN website is an intersting eye-opener in what kind of stories they run, and which they ignore.

    7. Re:News by bsDaemon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      isn't causing fear and panic among large swaths of the population in order to affect a political outcome the definition of terrorism? If so, his expert opinion may actually be pretty valid. Just saying.

    8. Re:News by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is a lot of news that happends in the United States that can make a good 24 hour plan. However the fact is that CNN is trying to get the most audence. So they are filling it with entertainment flufff. And the meaningless comentaries that just get people routing for them or going online to critize them.

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    9. Re:News by dcw3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mod Parent/GP UP!

      We have CNN in our cafeteria at work, and it sickens me to see nothing but "entertainment news". I really don't give a shit what Paris, Lindsey, Madonna, Brad, J-Lo, and the rest of them had for breakfast.

      Until one of these "news" organizations gets it, I'll be reading mine online.

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    10. Re:News by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      However, CNN fell to third in ratings behind MSNBC and Fox News, proving that the American public prefer to be spoon-fed biased opinion shows that they know they'll agree with.

      I'm sure that's part of it, but speaking for myself I stopped watching CNN because they replaced hard news coverage with gimmicks like iReport, floating pie charts and Star Wars holonet knock offs.

      The only serious American television newscast that's left is the PBS Newshour.

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    11. Re:News by Vancorps · · Score: 2, Informative

      Rachel Maddow gets away with a lot of surprising stuff. She's unapologetic and out in the open about her biases which I also like. Fox tries to hide it pretending to be fair and balanced. I'll take honesty anyday. Of course CNN is just a joke of its former self. I don't know if you caught the coverage of the tsunami heading for Hawaii, I have a cousin that lives there so we were checking up on the news while it was happening. I found it better just to go online to get my info and CNN was too busy sensationalizing the issue. That was their chance to shine as I stopped watching CNN years ago, I wanted to give it a try again and now it's gonna be another while.

  3. Clone Walter Cronkie from his DNA. by EWAdams · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they really want to retain viewers, they might... I dunno... try actual journalism and integrity. It worked for Walt.

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  4. CBS news = NNS by martin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Funny 'cos CBS joined up with ABC and Fox News Channel to create the Network news Service in response to CNN over 20 years ago.

    If this goes ahead the USA will have 1 big news service for TV news - maybe some sort of competition commission might block this?

    1. Re:CBS news = NNS by tnok85 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doubtful. They'd just organize it as a 'government regulated monopoly' in the best interest of the viewers. Then they could make sure that we only get the news we need.

    2. Re:CBS news = NNS by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

      If this goes ahead the USA will have 1 big news service for TV news

      We already do. The only major TV news source that doesn't share a parent company with a U.S. movie studio is the Public Broadcasting Service.

  5. Synonym for make: by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fabricate.

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  6. More media consolidation...its about time by Conspire · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is very heartwarming. It is about time we had some media consolidation. It will surely help remove the bias stemming from the extremely fragmented ownership and production base of the mainstream media of today.........

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  7. CNN, time to do *something* by jgreco · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A large percentage of the links off the CNN homepage these days are to the ireport web site, and they don't even differentiate them anymore like they used to. As a general rule, I don't care to see amateur news reporting, and this has been one reason I've used CNN less lately. I'd rather have less news but have it be high quality.

  8. Making news by omission by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When things go wrong, journos are quick to point out that they only report what is happening. That's the academic theory they've been taught, in any case.

    Journos "make" news in what they choose to report and not to report. For example, which of the MPAA-controlled U.S. TV news organizations has reported on ACTA?

  9. Re:Agility by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    CBS cares.

  10. Good luck to them by davmoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope they succeed at making news by merging, because they sure as hell can't report it. Using the words "journalism" and "CNN" in the same sentence has got to be the oxymoron of the year. And CBS isn't that much better any more.

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    1. Re:Good luck to them by FriendlyPrimate · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have to disagree. IMHO, out of the 3 major cable news networks (CNN, Fox, MSNBC), CNN is the best, and appears to try to report news without a liberal or conservative slant. The problem is that unbiased news is BORING! It's much more entertaining to watch Maddow duke it out with Beck. And so their ratings are horrible.

      That's not to say CNN isn't a horrible network with way too much time spent on mindless drivel, but they are the best of the worst major cable news outlets.

      It's sad, but one of the best places to get real news isn't even from any of the news outlets anymore....it's from the Daily Show.

  11. New name? by Briareos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So are they going to call it "CNNBS"?

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    1. Re:New name? by BlindSpot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So are they going to call it "CNNBS"?

      That would be appropriate, since CNN has been spewing nothing but BS for years now.

  12. Re:Maybe if they just reported the damn news! by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 3, Informative

    CNN/FOX going out of business due to low ratings is actually GOOD for US Democracy.

    Fox News is not going out of business due to low ratings (or any other reason) currently. Fox News actually gets decent ratings and their ratings are steadily improving.

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  13. Re: UCk! by IANAAC · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a shame that we have no news service dedicated to deep investigations and aiding the liberal causes.

    Click your remote a few times and you'll eventually hit upon MSNBC... they're about as liberal as they come.

    As far as "deep investigations", well, why would these networks do any thorough investigating when the latest newsbyte comes from the next viewer email, complete with camphone video? Not saying it's right, just that seems to be the way everything is headed.

  14. CNN's ratings need a jump-start? by brxndxn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's the problem. CNN cares about ratings. That means they care about the short term at the expense of their reputation as a viable news organization.

    Here's a quick fact for all of you TV executives: YOUR RATINGS ARE GOING DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE MORE OPTIONS. Quit trying to build this 'one size fits all morons' news channel and start actually reporting news. Hollywood gossip belongs on the Entertainment channel. Quick one-liners and talking heads belong on the Commentary channel. Crazy banners trying to get me all worked up over the world's dumbest terrorist (ya.. that guy from Pakistan recently) belong on the Fear channel. Instead, CNN includes all these things and then calls it the News channel. Seriously? CNN, right now, you are stupider than your audience. You target an audience of stupid people with even stupider content. Even stupid people want to get smarter.

    Right now, if you watched CNN all day 24/7, you would not know who your lawmakers are, you would not know which countries are where or what their political system is, understand any non-simplistic political or social situations, understand social and market changes or direction, hear more than a single sentence from a single person at a time without her being interrupted, hear about any real dirt or corruption involved with any affiliated corporation, or understand the real 'world situation.' So, it's entertainment - not news.

    And, you talking head assholes (that's pretty much every CNN reporter except Jack Cafferty), IT'S NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB TO SET THE AGENDA FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Quit trying to tell people how to think. Quit identifying any political candidates as 'non-viable' or 'a longshot' or 'fringe' before you talk about them without letting people decide for themselves. Quit having opinions on everything. Quit being condescending to less educated people trying to make a difference in less affluent areas. Quit fabricating shit out of nothing - If there was a device that people thought was a bomb, but was determined not to be a bomb, don't report that it was a bomb! Quit talking only about buzzword political issues like abortion, gun control, and prayer in schools - like they are the only political problems facing the US. Quit wasting our time.

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    1. Re:CNN's ratings need a jump-start? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      IT'S NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB TO SET THE AGENDA FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

      Ten media conglomerates own about 95% of the media in the USA and over 50% of the media in the world. CNN is owned by Time Warner, the world's second largest entertainment conglomerate.[1] These corporations have been telling Americans who they may vote for at least since the first media conglomerates were permitted to exist. IIRC this had to do with J.P. Morgan, but I'm short on citations right now. In any case, it is the media's job to set the agenda for the American people. They don't work for the people — they don't answer to them. People will buy that which is advertised to them. And they do.

      [1] Time Warner. (2010, May 6). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 13:43, May 6, 2010, from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Time_Warner&oldid=360506188

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  15. Re:Maybe if they just reported the damn news! by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If there's one thing that the founding fathers certainly would balk at, it's the God-like reverence with which they and their document are treated with today.

    Although I support the rule of law, the constitution was written almost 225 years ago, for a union of 13 states. Much has changed since then, and the constitution provides an amendment process for this very purpose.

    The filibuster rule made sense when there were only 26 senators -- as the number climbed to 100, it became increasingly obvious that it was no longer suitable, as a grandstanding politician could effectively block any piece of legislation, which was increasingly probable as the size of the Senate grew.

    Similarly, advances in communications and transportation have made state lines increasingly irrelevant (your rant is a "states rights" thing, right?). It's no surprise that, as people traveled and traded from state-to-state that the federal government would grow in size and importance. The states have also done few favors to themselves, as their governments have proven time and time again to be corrupt and ineffective over the past several decades.

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  16. Re:CNN sucks a big fat dick. Dont ruin 60 minutes! by jameskojiro · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you really want to know what is going on in the US the best way is to login to BBC news website or get a subscription to BBCAmerican and watch your news there. ITN News is pretty good too and they have that hot Indian chic who is easy on the eyes.

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