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Lower Merion School's Report Says IT Dept. Did It, But Didn't Inhale

PSandusky writes "A report issued by the Lower Merion School District's chosen law firm blames the district's IT department for the laptop webcam spying scandal. In particular, the report mentions lax IT policies and record-keeping as major problems that enabled the spying. Despite thousands of e-mails and images to the contrary, the report also maintains that no proof exists that anyone in IT viewed images captured by the webcams."

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  1. Wow... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I sure hope those "IT Dept" folks have emails archived indicating the request to do this.

    Otherwise...wow. I feel bad for them.

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    1. Re:Wow... by Jeng · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not only the request to do it, but the request to stop it.

      I'm sure the school administrators requested for the access, but forgot to request for the access to be terminated once enough information was procured letting the pictures just pile up like emails in a discontinued email address.

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    2. Re:Wow... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I sure hope those "IT Dept" folks have emails archived indicating the request to do this.

      Otherwise...wow. I feel bad for them.

      I don't feel bad for them at all. It is so clearly obvious to anyone with minimal common sense that this whole thing could go wrong in a variety of ways. If they didn't think there was anything wrong with what they were doing then they get what they deserve. If they didn't keep a paper trail to cover there asses then they've put themselves in a really bad position. Either way they should have seen some of this coming from day one.

    3. Re:Wow... by fava · · Score: 5, Informative

      The report was written by the law firm that is defending the school district. Consequently it is attempting to spin everything in the most favourable light to the school district. Any attempt to pin the fault on rogue individuals in the IT department might just be an attempt to minimize liability.

      I simply don't trust the report.

    4. Re:Wow... by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unless the IT department personnel have copies of email threads which include them vehemently opposing this policy, I have little sympathy for them. This sort of spying is highly unethical, and an IT department should, ideally, refuse to honor the request. Realistically, I can see people who depend on that job doing it, but I would expect them to do whatever they could to dissuade the school district from doing it first, and maybe anonymously whistleblowing to the local newspaper second. If all they can show is that they were "just following orders", that's not enough to absolve them.

    5. re: wow... by ed.han · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i really don't think that the the heads that roll will be confined to IT. in that kind of environment, someone puts together a request that goes to IT, right? it won't be IT that approved the webcam capability on the hardware.

      ed

    6. Re:Wow... by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Didn't the principal suspend a kid for supposedly taking "drugs" at home, that turned out to be Mike N' Ikes?

      The principal was at the very least aware of images taken of students in their homes and had no problems with them at the time the suspension was issued.

      I don't claim to know the facts of the matter, but it sure looks like lies compounding on lies. I really hope the people in charge get nailed for this. If I was a parent with a student at that school, I'd be filing a lawsuit.

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    7. Re:Wow... by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...an IT department should, ideally, refuse to honor the request. You mean, just like Terry Childs did? Look, I've dealt with school officials, and their basic attitude is "We're doing this with good intentions, therefore there couldn't be anything wrong with it. And they stick to that story, even when presented with overwhelming proof that what they are doing is a violation of the law, because they are inherently incapable of admitting they have made a mistake.

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    8. Re:Wow... by Zerth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Especially considering the email that said they thought it was like watching "a little LMSD soap opera,". While the statement could have been taken out of context("testing this is cool, this is like 'a little LMSD soap opera'"), it kind of implies they looked at something.

    9. Re:Wow... by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The "We were only following orders" defense didn't work out so well for the last guys that used it.

      Yes, because this is comparable to genocide....

      It doesn't matter who told you to do it when you're breaking the law and you know it.

      Is there a law against installing spyware on corporate/school district machines? It surely would have been a violation of the law to install said software on the students personal machines, but on school supplied machines?

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    10. Re:Wow... by Jeng · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How often does IT get to make moral decisions?

      School Administration "Hey, activate the anti-theft program on XXXXX due to non-payment."

      School IT "I'm sorry, I don't believe I'll do that because I don't trust your decision making abilities."

      School Administration "Bye Bye"

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    11. Re:Wow... by poetmatt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's kinda hard to say a kid might have done drugs and then later state you couldn't have possibly looked at the photos. It's contradictory for the defense. I'm guessing that Lower Marion doesn't want to accept that they are totally screwed.

    12. Re:Wow... by Jeng · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If the school is telling you to turn on the anti-theft program on a school laptop what is your argument you would make to the administrators to let them know that what they are doing is wrong?

      Secondly, how would you know that it would be wrong for them to turn on the anti-theft tracking software in the first place?

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    13. Re:Wow... by doas777 · · Score: 4, Informative
      I sympathise with them to a certain extent, but Mike Prebix has been caught on film making statements about how cool it was that he could use this software to observe students without them knowing.

      Additionally there is plenty of evidence that IT staff did view the images as is shown in their emails. the report concludes that "there was no evidence of spying" but acknowledges that there would be no way to obtain evidence that spying was or wasn't happening. there were numerous incidents where the software was engaged, but for no known reason, and several times when it was engaged but there is no record of who made the request, or in some cases, of who actually turned it on.

      it also doesn't lend credibility that they purged the entire LanRev TheftTracker database some months before this issue, destroying much of what would have been evidence in this case.

    14. Re:Wow... by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seems simple enough, you make the kids parents sign for the machines. If the machine disappears they pay for it.

    15. Re:Wow... by dcollins · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, no, "I can't imagine" doing this without my Orwellian omni-surveillance iPantopticon! "I can't imagine" not being tagged, tracked, and on camera at all time! "I can't imagine"
      what anyone did to protect leased property prior to 2000AD!

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    16. Re:Wow... by Naturalis+Philosopho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, if my boss told me to break into someone's house, or even to look in the windows because they though that that someone had stolen equipment from work I'd say "sure, as soon as the police officer with the warrant gets here I'll be happy to help him!" If a crime hasn't occurred, then it's not worth activating a "feature" like this. If it has occurred, then it's worth getting the police involved. If it's in between, then it's time to call your insurance company and see if they'll pay the claim for the "stolen" equipment anyway. (Most times if you report it stolen and show the police report you'll get your money. It's not your job to track down the criminals or the equipment, it's the police's.)

      To your second point, I know that common sense isn't that common, but really, unless there's a signed document from these kids parents allowing the camera to be turned on, I think that everyone involved should go to jail for at least a little while. It's illegal to film in someone's bedroom without their permission. Ignorance of the law is no excuse and all that. I know that we all love the stories about the person who used "back to my Mac" to take pictures of the criminal who took their laptop, but just wait until someone does that with a computer that's been stolen by a teenage girl and gets nailed for "creation of child porn" when they track their computer while she's dressing in the morning.

    17. Re:Wow... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Didn't we learn from the Terry Childs case that if the people who own the software / hardware tell you to do something, you do it or risk a felony conviction for obstructing their use of the devices.

      So do what they say or you are screwed. but wait... do what they say and you are screwed anyway.

      Best to not work in that field until they work up some new boilerplate that protects Tech folks from immoral bosses directives.

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    18. Re:Wow... by kenj0418 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At some places, you do your job and keep your mouth shut, or find somewhere else to work.

      If "do your job" involves surreptitiously photographing under-18 kids without their or their parents knowledge, then "find somewhere else to work" is the correct option.

    19. Re:Wow... by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      School IT: put a ticket in the cue

      Queue grammar Nazis in 5,4,3 ...

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    20. Re:Wow... by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Didn't the principal suspend a kid for supposedly taking "drugs" at home, that turned out to be Mike N' Ikes?

      It dosen't matter even if the student was smoking a joint or snorting a line of coke. It's still none of the school's damn business what students do outside of school, unless it was a school-sponsored function or they were scooped up by the cops or campus security for being truant, period.

      ...And the mods always string me up by my balls for saying this: Students don't need cell phones and laptops at high school. The computer labs and libraries are more than good enough.

    21. Re:Wow... by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You mean, just like Terry Childs did?

      Refusing to help start a spying program is quite a bit different than refusing to hand over access to the city's systems. If you can't see the difference, I really hope for your sake you don't work in an IT department, or if you do you have a realy good lawyer.

    22. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, because this is comparable to genocide....

      It doesn't need to be. Analogies are not invalidated by differences in scale.

    23. Re:Wow... by Platinumrat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Paper trail or not, they're screwed. Problem is that the IT folk are still required to follow the laws of the land. In this case the law is no kiddie porn. I'm not in IT myself, but am an engineer and if management tells me to do something that is illegal, I am duty bound to to them so. Sometime management, hasn't thought it through and they realise the error, othertimes, well let's just say a quiet word to the legal dept, often sets them right. As professionals, the Law requires us to know what laws are applicable in the application of our daily jobs. Ignorance is not an excuse.

    24. Re:Wow... by Maestro4k · · Score: 4, Informative

      Unless the IT department personnel have copies of email threads which include them vehemently opposing this policy, I have little sympathy for them.

      Actually, they have pretty much the exact opposite. It turns out a student intern researched the LanRev software capabilities and was quite concerned about the potential for abuse, and sent an E-mail expressing their concerns to IT management. And of course the "adults" brushed off this student's concerns, and guess what? The student pretty much predicted the entire mess the school system's involved in now ahead of time, they should have listened to them.

    25. Re:Wow... by pclminion · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...an IT department should, ideally, refuse to honor the request. You mean, just like Terry Childs did?

      Oh fucking get real, it's totally different.

      "Your honor, we request you throw the book at this guy for refusing to implement a system that could have been used to produce massive amounts of child porn."

      His Honor: "Dude, WTF are you smoking?"

      I'll take the odds on that one.

    26. Re:Wow... by arekusu_ou · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention IT puts you in a position to hear and see alot of confidential things that your pay grade shouldn't. The field requires a certain level of professionalism that you keep things to yourself unless there's a good reason not to. It also helps to understand how upper management feels about rules, are the rules strict and they will follow through zero tolerance, or is it something they just say but don't want to know about breakages.

      In the end, just got to use best judgment and like others say, make sure YOU'RE not breaking any laws and papertrails are good.

    27. Re:Wow... by poetmatt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      no, 42 was correct. that was clarified later. They meant they started the system 42 times. Thousands of photos each time though. "whoops" is an understatement.

      Why they spun the 42 in the first place is horrifically stupid and beyond bad pr. It's like "We only shot people using 42 guns" (but shout 42 thousand bullets) etc.

    28. Re:Wow... by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where 'Former School IT: "I got your 'Bye Bye' right here, baby."' is 'Former School IT: "Have a nice whistleblower protection lawsuit, would you like some child pornography charges with that?"'

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    29. Re:Wow... by Miseph · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Given the amount of unethical behavior people engage in on a daily basis, I would say that you were being far more insightful than sarcastic.

      Sure, nobody would come out and say they aren't hiring you because they don't want a conflict with their misdeeds, but it's always easy enough to just say "sorry, we decided to go with somebody else, best of luck" and hire somebody less scrupulous.

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    30. Re:Wow... by mjwx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If "do your job" involves surreptitiously photographing under-18 kids without their or their parents knowledge, then "find somewhere else to work" is the correct option.

      When your job is the only thing feeding a family in a weak economy with high unemployment and a penchant for outsourcing your type of work, the right choice is keep your mouth shut.

      The world is never quite as black and white as you make it seem. You could make the "correct" choice for yourself but what about people depending on you (dependants)?

      Why does this story reek of some bureaucratic arse trying to push the blame onto IT by saying "they should have known better then to do what I told them to". I know "I was only following orders" is not a valid defence but neither is "they shouldn't have followed my orders".

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    31. Re:Wow... by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 4, Informative

      A previous article was posted here that mentioned the LED. Because the webcam is only taking a picture, not recording video, the light is only on for perhaps one second at a time. A lot of the students DID notice this but were told/assumed that it was "glitching out" and chalked it up to hardware malfunction. Apparently a few got paranoid and covered it with tape. (turns out they weren't actually paranoid at all)

      To a computer illiterate user a blinking light probably doesn't attract a large amount of attention.

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    32. Re:Wow... by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 2

      It's more like "Oh, you're that guy that has no problem disclosing the unethical doings of companies". Now, that might seem like a good thing but take a look at it from a manager's perspective.

      There are two people, one with a record of reporting and then publicly disclosing unethical behavior and one without and they both want the same job. Who do you hire?

      If your company is doing nothing unethical than either choice will work fine. However, if there is ANY chance that your company MIGHT be doing something unethical then you have one guy that won't cause problems and one that MIGHT cause problems. Now, even if you know for a fact that there is no unethical activity happening anywhere in your company you can't guarantee that it won't happen tomorrow or sometime down the road. Thus, the more ethical guy MIGHT present a risk that you can't anticipate. Obviously you're going to hire the less risky guy.

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    33. Re:Wow... by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, but with jellybeans, the officials don't even have the shaky pretense of "at least we found drugs" to lean on. That's gotta make it harder to manufacture the ambiguity they need to attempt to garner public sympathy.

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  2. Lower Merion by operagost · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's Lower Merion.

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  3. ...Seriously? by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, really "Lax IT policies" and "record keeping"? How is that even an excuse? Yeah, if perhaps like 30 pictures were taken it could be blamed on that. But seriously? 58,000 pictures? There is more than lax IT policies. Yeah, perhaps someone might do it once to get a laugh, but no (sane) person is going to do it 58,000 times.

    How hard is it not to activate software unless the laptop has been stolen? It it isn't like its too hard to determine if it has been stolen or not...

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    1. Re:...Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The definition of chutzpah is saying this:

      Ballard Spahr admits that there is no way to determine how often the images were viewed, but says it found no evidence that the IT staff had viewed any of the images.

      when you got by acting on what you thought you saw in one of those images. Wow. Do they cut out that little part of the brain with the "do not lie" label when you become a lawyer?

  4. "No proof exists" and other weasel words by rjamestaylor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I probably watch too many cop shows but when a suspect says, "No proof exists", it's usually a sign of moral guilt. Maybe even of distruction of evidence. Regardless, this is weak and should be treated as a serious infringement against the privacy of the students and their families.

    IMHO, of course. Oh, and IANAL but I do watch Law and Order. ;)

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    1. Re:"No proof exists" and other weasel words by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It just makes me think of Bart Simpson:

      "I didn't do it.
      Nobody saw me do it.
      You can't prove anything."

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    2. Re:"No proof exists" and other weasel words by rjamestaylor · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was told there would be no Latin on Slashdot... :)

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  5. The gun killed him by gmuslera · · Score: 5, Funny

    put the gun in jail, we are innocent.

    1. Re:The gun killed him by Mekkah · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, and the music too. Marilyn Manson did it.

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    2. Re:The gun killed him by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Informative

      Indeed. The figures from all the countries that aren't stuck the wild west bear it out. It's rare a week passes in England without some silly bugger driving the wrong way up a "motorway" and plowing into a schoolbus.

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  6. So how did they see the kid eating candy? by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really how did they see the kid eating Mike and Ike's candy?
    And isn't a crime to spy even if you don't look at the data?

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    1. Re:So how did they see the kid eating candy? by Jer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The computer was removed from the school without paying the required insurance fee to do so. They then accessed files on the laptop and when they reviewed them, they thought they saw drugs in a picture. The school district felt obligated to inform the parents of the possible drugs.

      I think the OP is wondering how that squares with this:

      the report also maintains that no proof exists that anyone in IT viewed images captured by the webcams."

      If there's "no proof" that anyone in IT viewed the images, how did the picture of the kid eating candy end up in the hands of a school administrator?

    2. Re:So how did they see the kid eating candy? by zeroduck · · Score: 4, Interesting
      This is what I've heard (source):

      The report says Robbins turned in his laptop with a broken screen and was issued a loaner on Oct. 20, but school officials quickly moved to retrieve it due to outstanding insurance fees. So the tracking program was activated from Oct. 20 to Nov. 4 and captured 210 webcam photographs and 218 screen shots, the report said.

      So they knew who had the laptop (not missing). They gave it to him (not stolen). They didn't attempt to recover the laptop by using reasonable measures (asking him for it back, calling the parents). But some how, spying on him for 15 days, off campus, is reasonable for not paying a $50 fee?

    3. Re:So how did they see the kid eating candy? by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Insightful

      1. The student can not turn on the Web cam only the school can.
      2. It is still spying and illegal to remotely turn on a recording device and then later recover the data from the device. You know like planting say a tape-recorder in a conference room.
      3. They reviews the pictures they got from spying.
      4. It seems that they told the student but no where did I see that they informed the parents.
      5. What proof do you have that the picture was on the local drive and sent over the net? Even if it was it just doesn't matter.
      6. YOU DON"T FREAKING NEED A WEB CAM TO TRACK A LAPTOP! All they need to know was that it was accessing the net from a location that wasn't the school!
      Frankly WHAT IS DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS is if they really didn't want the laptops to work off campus they could have had it lock if they used it off the school network if it was not insured!

      Even if everything you say is right so?
      They illegally spied on the kid. Jail time.

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  7. like Zuckerman, I dotn beleive in privacy anymore by peter303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You never know where there may be a camera, especially outside. You never know where your intertube bits may end up. Assume the worst. This is just a preview of the future.

  8. whitewash by hduff · · Score: 4, Informative

    The "independent" report was written by a law firm hired by the school system.

    The IT guy made forum posts talking about the "security" system.

    The school used the software to do more that locate and retrieve lost or stolen laptops with all this starting because one student was accused of dealing "drugs" (aka Mike & Ike candy) based on a captured image.

    This report is just posturing by adults who should know better but who have stupidly done something unethical and illegal.

    The adults involved should be subject to a "zero tolerance" interpretation of the law. They can make new friends in prison and learn a trade since they won't again be employed in education in their lifetime.

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    1. Re:whitewash by Zerth · · Score: 2, Informative

      I like the bit where the report admits the Board members did indeed have knowledge of the tracking, but were too ignorant to realize what that meant, and that any who may have realized that it took pictures thought that it only would take a picture once.

      And because they were ignorant, they didn't think to ask "if you can take one picture, why can't you take more pictures" and "what keeps anybody from doing this whenever they wanted".

      They did, however, think to ask "can we disable tracking for certain laptops?", which is telling, considering that 5 of the 9 Board members have children in the program. Were they concerned somebody might be spying on their kids, or were they just worried because they intended to "lose" the laptops.

  9. Re:like Zuckerman, I dotn beleive in privacy anymo by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One would think a teenager alone in his own bedroom would have a "reasonable expectation of privacy". Especially since we all KNOW what teenagers do when alone in their own bedrooms!

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  10. Re:like Zuckerman, I dotn beleive in privacy anymo by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not a case of a photograph taken in public, it is a case of a photograph that was secretly taken inside someone's home. There are specific protections against that sort of behavior, particularly when it is a government agency engaging in it. Yes, privacy still matters, despite the fact that it has become cool to voluntarily abandon it.

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  11. As expected by wisnoskij · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is the minions fault, of course no one in management would ever do anything amoral.

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  12. Grain of Salt by kjs3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    To be clear, this was a report done by a law firm retained by the school district to "investigate" the situation. One shouldn't take it as conclusive or impartial.

  13. Re:Boned by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But who is "you" in this case?

    Any of the school employees that had access to and/or "Dominion and Control" over the images.

    Isn't that the standard for illegal things found in your car/apartment, etc? Even if they're not yours, if you had access or dominion and control over them, you're presumed to 'own' them.

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  14. It doesn't even make sense by Posting=!Working · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An assistant principal looked at images of a student in their home and punished the student for what they saw.

    I'll buy their excuse once the can explain how the I.T. department did the above. Explain how the assistant principal didn't know of the capability while punishing the student for a picture taken in the students home using this very capability.

    The capability was known and the invasion of privacy was just fine with the administration until the moment they got sued. If it weren't, the situation causing the lawsuit could never have happened in the first place.

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  15. Re:like Zuckerman, I dotn beleive in privacy anymo by D+Ninja · · Score: 3, Funny

    We do? ...or are you trying to tell us that you were one of the school district IT guys, so you know for sure?

  16. Re:Boned by cynyr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    so then everyone from the IT guys on up? Including the Governor, and state house/senate, and appointed school chairman? or? what about the whole teachers union(they are a union, one for all and all for one)?

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  17. cost? by belmolis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The monitoring software is a commercial product, isn't it? Anyone know how much it costs? If the cost is non-trivial, it seems likely that someone reasonably high up in the school administration had to approve the purchase and therefore knew what it was for.

  18. Re:Boned by twidarkling · · Score: 2, Informative

    Are you just not familiar with the terms "access" and "control"? That was a ludicrous question that goes beyond hyperbolic. The Governor doesn't have access to school networks and resources unless given to him. It's not his job to do it, either. That's him out on both strikes. On a cursory use of logic, anyone involved with the decision to include the software originally, anyone involved in deploying it, and anyone with a user account capable of accessing that part of the network gets scrutiny. From there, you get to either add or remove people based on evidence.

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  19. What a crock of crap by Whuffo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did the IT department decide on its own to install this monitoring software? No, the school administration did. Were the IT workers free to do whatever they wanted? No, they were required to perform jobs assigned by the school administration. Who suspended a student because the picture showed him taking drugs? Yup, the school administration.

    Do we believe what the lawyers are saying? Of course not; they're paid to lie and their "you can't prove it" comment shows how they feel about the truth here. It's no surprise that the school administrators are worried - because they've jumped into the same pit as many other child molesters and kiddie porn vendors with both feet. They're even worse because their victims didn't even know they were being filmed.

    Justice would require that their occupation and standing be disregarded and the mere facts of their crimes be considered: secretly installing video monitoring in the bedrooms of hundreds of minor children and using that equipment to take at least 60,000 pictures of those minors in various states of undress. These are serious crimes and the excuses they are offering are just the same sort of excuses other felons who have been caught would offer in their own defense. Considering the number of offenses, it would be multiple life sentences - if the law works the way it is supposed to.

    You'd better believe that if one of us were secretly taking pictures of hundreds of minors they'd put us in prison and throw away the key. Let's see what happens when school administrators do that same thing. If they don't draw long prison sentences, I'd be asking loudly why not.