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In AU, Court Rules Downloaded Software Is Not "Goods"

bennyboy64 writes "A court decision ruling that the supply of software through a digital download mechanism is not a supply of 'goods' has been upheld in the Supreme Court of New South Wales in Australia, setting a precedent that software downloaded via the Internet is not protected by the Sale of Goods Act, reports ZDNet. It's a court decision that lawyer Patrick Gunning said attorneys had been waiting to have clarified for some time. What this meant was that 'people who purchase software will have more legal rights if they buy over the counter rather than downloading,' Gunning said."

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  1. Good for consumers? by Peach+Rings · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suppose that means that they can't be taxed as goods then?

    1. Re:Good for consumers? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or counted as theft.

    2. Re:Good for consumers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Does it extend to other purely-digital creations? WHAT ABOUT E-BOOKS? What about logo designs? What about digital photographs? Even if sold, are they no longer considered "goods" as well?

  2. Re:Why would anyone live in Australia? by Rene+S.+Hollan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, since Australia used to be a penal colony, that kind of makes some kind of twisted sense.

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  3. Services for consumers? by spun · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not a good, it's a service. Like a song played over the radio isn't a good, it's a service, while a song bought on a CD is a good. The judge recognized that his ruling could lead to injustice, and called on parliament to change the law to reflect the changes in the definition of 'goods' that the digital revolution has brought about.

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  4. Re:Why would anyone live in Australia? by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is their deal? Their motto seems to be "The consumer is always a criminal". It's weird.

    Well, since Australia used to be a penal colony, that kind of makes some kind of twisted sense.

    I can't remember the comedian who said this, but:

    I'd rather live in a country founded by criminals, than one founded by puritans

    Having lived in both places I totally agree with him

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  5. Re:So if I purchase and THEN download... by spun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I believe downloads do not meet the legal definition of 'goods' under AU law and therefore, would be considered a service. The judge felt compelled by the letter of the law to render the decision he did, even saying it would lead to injustice, and calling on parliament to change the law to reflect the changing definition of 'goods.'

    It's amazing what one can learn by actually reading the articles. It is not, despite what most Slashdotters seem to think, a complete waste of time that only serves to keep one from achieving a first post.

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  6. Re:Why would anyone live in Australia? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Australia wasn't founded by criminals. It was founded by wardens.

  7. Re:Makes perfect sense by idontgno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My, my, so angry.

    You have your opinion. The judge has his opinion. Guess whose opinion is actually law?

    Just because it's clear and obvious to you, doesn't make it so in the real world.

    IANAL. You neither, I'm sure.

    Your intuitive sense that intangible goods are still goods will probably win the day, but right now law hasn't caught up to that perspective. And this is not about right or wrong, this is about law. The judge himself indicated that he agrees with you, intuitively, but he only interprets law, not creates it. That's why he calls for the legislature to change it.

    As it stands, it appears that "intangible goods" seems to be intimately tied up with and generally conflated with "services". Google hasn't helped me find any concrete examples to the contrary. (This is where not being a lawyer is unfortunate, since Google is not that good of a legal research department.) If you can cite any valid example of where the law recognizes software as a good rather than a service, please, point it out. That might redeem the reputation you're building for yourself as a ad-hominem flame-mongering idealist with impulse control issues and no idea how law actually works.

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  8. Not good? I agree! by mangu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Like a song played over the radio isn't a good

    I fully agree with that. Most songs played over the radio are no good at all.