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Do Children's E-Books Ruin Reading?

An anonymous reader writes "A fierce argument has begun over whether children are actually 'reading' new e-books or simply 'watching' them. As publishers pump increasing levels of interactivity into e-books, the New York Times and others argue that these highly-interactive, popular titles are ruining the purpose of reading. The NYT also worries that new e-book titles could distract kids from the tougher task of actually concentrating on literature: '[W]hat will become of the readers we've been: quiet, thoughtful, patient, abstracted, in a world where interactive can be too tempting to ignore?' Others, like Gizmodo, defend these new e-books, pointing at titles like Alice for the iPad, of which they blabber, 'For the first time in my life, I'm blown away by an interactive book design.' But, the NYT counters, 'What I really love [about traditional books] is their inertness. No matter how I shake Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, mushrooms don't tumble out of the upper margin, unlike the Alice for the iPad.'"

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  1. Non-issue by DavidR1991 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interactive books have been around for decades - books with sliding tabs, sound effects when you press little buttons - those kinds of things. So I don't think e-books along the lines of that Alice one are a problem at all

    What we should be concerned about is interactivity replacing the text rather than augmenting it. That's when it's a problem

    1. Re:Non-issue by illumnatLA · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think, like TV, it's all about how the interactive books are used. If the interactive books are used primarily as a babysitter that's a problem.

      However, if the parent is interacting with their child while their child is interacting with the book, it's not really a problem. There's much more going on from a learning standpoint than just learning the words when a parent and a child read together. The social interaction is the important part.

      But... if the 'interactive book' is constantly used as a way for the parents to not have to interact with their child, it will breed the same bunch of moronic mouthbreathers as children who were brought up in front of the TV with little interaction from their parents. (Ok... that's a bit strong, but you know what I mean!) ;-)

      It seems to me that people often forget there's more to education than just memorizing facts and figures. The social aspect is equally important.

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    2. Re:Non-issue by JamesP · · Score: 5, Funny

      Books for wizard kids (Harry Potter) have things that speak and move for themselves and the kids seem to do just fine.

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  2. I want Textadventures! by SlothDead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why are there no textadventures/"choose your own adventure"-books for the kindle or any other ereader?

    Also, these interactive kiddie books might lead to the kindle 3 being like this: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910868

  3. My 3 month old... by garcia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't consider myself a parent with any real life experience, being that I have only been one for 3 months, but I have some observations on how my son interacts with certain physical items in his new world:

    1. He is not permitted to watch TV.
    2. We read books to him a lot.
    3. He listens to a lot of music tailored towards children (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIueuNdB2oM)

    While he has some attention for books, especially ones where my mother recorded herself reading them and we play it for him while he listens, he has an amazing attention span for my iPhone or the TV. He will go out of his way to crane his neck around to look at the TV if it happens to be on (we don't watch much TV) or physically move himself to look at the TV if he is in a device which allows for him to do that.

    I'm guessing that either he's fucking weird (certainly possible considering his parents) or all children love to watch shit. While he gets excited when I come home from work, it's nothing like he gets when he's watching my parents on Google Video Chat. If he's going to feel excited via a particular medium then I say I'm all for it--especially if it helps one particular child learn better than others.

    1. Re:My 3 month old... by WarwickRyan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He's three months old.

      Of course the TV's interesting, it's making full of sounds, colours and moving stuff.

      Just buy (or make) him a Hanging Mobile.

  4. Ruining the purpose of reading? ABSOLUTELY! by denzacar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Same way picture books have been ruining reading these last couple of centuries.

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    1. Re:Ruining the purpose of reading? ABSOLUTELY! by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yah, just like computers have been ruining writing these past couple of decades.

      Tell me about it. Some people don't even know what paragraphs are anymore.

  5. The equation of truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Children + new technology = loss of childhood dreams

    Don't we all know this from episode I?

    1. Re:The equation of truth by AnonymousClown · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Children + new technology = loss of childhood dreams

      That's an interesting point.

      Consider this, when you see an image of a character, you're seeing what someone else's imagination came up with on how it looks. For example, how many of you see a movie adaptation of a book only to have them cast an actor that looks nothing like you imagined it?

      With picture books or multimedia or whatever, the authors are replacing the child's imagination with their own. The child may have something better or something they like more or...I don't know.

      I think the picture books or any multimedia system is replacing a child's imagination - it's not active.

      That's why books to movies usually suck: our imaginations are usually better than what Hollywood can come up with - Starship Troopers for one.

      I'm not creative enough on how to explain it further.

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    2. Re:The equation of truth by Hal_Porter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paul Verhoeven said "We always called action movies fascist, so we thought it would be interesting to make a real fascist movie" and that "the point of this movie is that war makes fascists of us all". He said he read part of the book but hated it. Still the society in the movie has the same rules as the society in the book. The fact that he portays that society as fascist means the movie is a satire of the book, and also of the American idea that war can be won without a moral cost for the victors. This last one is a key thing to Verhoeven - films like Black Book show how corrupting war can be, even for the most morally justified side.

      Of course if you have a sense of humour and an ability to see the flaws in plans for utopian society whilst still being able to appreciate the good ideas you can enjoy both. Like Marx Heinlein gets in some good jabs at democratic societies, and like Marx the alternative he suggests would be a nightmare if implemented.

      Still it's interesting that people that believe in Heinlein's blueprint for a society seem to always be viscerally hostile to the movie that satirizes them. That makes me think the movie's point that the society described in the book is fascist has some truth to it. It seems very unlikely that the society that Heinlein describes would allow a movie like Starship Troopers to be made.

      Actually Starship Troopers the movie seems scarily prescient of the War On Terror.

      "Some say that western incursions into the Middle East have provoked the muslims and a live and let live policy would be preferrable"

      "I'M FROM NEW YORK AND I SAY KILL 'EM ALL!"

      Of course, luckily we lived in a good old fashioned democracy with universal suffrage. And democracies are quite happy with films that poke fun at them.

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    3. Re:The equation of truth by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you served in the US military, you swore an oath to uphold the US Constitution. Using force to disenfranchise non veterans - and that is the only way to do it - is not doing that.

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  6. Etude & Cat In The Hat by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see it similar to the Etude music player on the iPhone. It's a MIDI player that highlights the notes on the sheet music and on a simulation of a piano keyboard as the music is being played.

    The Cat in the Hat eBook has several modes, one of which highlights the text as a voice reads the words. Another of which lets the kid touch something in the drawing, says the word and highlights it in the text (if it's in the passage on that page).

    Neither replaces an audio performance (like an iTunes song or an audio book), and neither of which replace the physical static medium (like a piece of sheet music or a book), but both make a nice interactive presentation to help the viewer's brain make the connection of these very different sensations.

  7. They're just a tool. by syousef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tools can be used badly. That's nothing new either. You can use a TV to watch amazing documentaries, or crappy reality TV and "talk" shows like Jerry Springer. Kids can use it to watch garbage, or educational programming.

    Interactive books are no different. They can be inert. They can distract from reading, or they can aid the reading process. There are fundamental differences between paper books and ebooks but blaming the format for poor execution is just weak. Since they can be more complex it becomes harder to differentiate, but that's what you have to do as a consumer....and there's nothing like word of mouth in mothers groups and in the school yard to help in that area.

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  8. Video games by digitalderbs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I got into programming and computers through video games.

  9. A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer by at.drinian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone who thinks that interactive books can't be a force for good needs to go read Neal Stephenson.

    1. Re:A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer by smegmatic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      you're citing a fiction book as evidence?

  10. Get a foreign language channel with cartoons... by denzacar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Get a foreign language channel with cartoons. Or two. Or three. Languages, that is. Probably at least as many channels as well.

    My cousin was speaking English almost as good as her native language (Bosnian/Serbian) by the time she was 5-6 years old from all the Cartoon Network she watched.
    Basically, she was speaking a foreign language before she learned to read or write.
    She is now studying to be a professor of English.

    Also, when your kid starts to read, don't shun the comics in favor of books.
    If possible, get him some comics in the foreign language he is picking up from the cartoons.
    Amazon has international sites, holding books in the local language. But there are also online communities that scan comics. Even those in "foreign" languages.

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  11. Seriously by celibate+for+life · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know why or how this trend started: to consider human beings (specially children) so delicate and fragile that every minor thing has the potential to ruin someone's mind forever. Traditional reading won't get outdated because it's a very efficient way to get high amounts of information in non-sequential order. So even if your children like to play with animated bleep-bloop books, they will eventually learn to read real books because they will need to. Necessity has been helping individuals and the entire species accomplish things since the dawn of time.

  12. I thought reading was about developing imagination by abhikhurana · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Call me old fashioned but one of the reasons I have always enjoyed reading traditional books is because the author only drops the hints at what the world in the book looks like but I actually paint the complete picture. This is the same reason why most movies based on books don't do well, because it is extremely difficult to compete with what we imagined that world to be in the detail and besides the imaginary world is individual to each reader. No two worlds probably look the same.

    Unfortunately, the more we get into the interactive books which try to replace the written word with pictures (or even the ones which try to augment it), the more would we be limiting our imagination and seeing it from someone else's eyes, which almost certainly would result in less "different" people in the world. Most of us on slashdot are evolutionists and we do appreciate that it is this difference which results in our species evolving. Hell, it could be that Da Vinci etc. probably started looking at flying because they had heard or read fairy tales where humans flew, which then one day was realised by incremental advance in science. So in some ways, we would be limiting our potential by relying more on the visual medium rather than imagining the world.

  13. Big surprise. by demonlapin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, folks, idiotic blather about how to raise a genius has come to the iPad. Ask people who have grown kids: they are who they are. There is astonishingly little you can do to change them. A rich environment beats a poor one, and you shouldn't starve or beat your children. Aside from that, just enjoy knowing them.

  14. At least they're reading something by mingsy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    E-books are just a tool to engage those students who would otherwise not read. Start worrying when the kids aren't reading at all.

  15. Translation by Dirtside · · Score: 3, Informative

    Translation: "It's new and different, and I'm frightened by it."

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