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Ancient Comet Fragments Found In Antarctic Snow
An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from Cosmos Magazine:
"Two tiny meteorites recently recovered from Antarctic snow contain material dating back to the birth of our Solar System, and may provide clues about the delivery of organic matter to Earth. Researchers believe that these micrometeorites likely came from the cold, comet-forming outer regions of the gas and dust cloud that comprised the early Solar System, and sample its composition. Discovered in 2006, the particles measure less than 0.25 mm across and survived their journey through Earth's atmosphere relatively unscathed. More importantly, scientists found that they contain unusually high amounts of organic matter."
re:"More importantly, scientists found that they contain unusually high amounts of organic matter." Just before he choked, fell to the ground, and turned into a multi-tentacled extra terrestrial and savagely attacked the audience.
Apparently the big bang has some evidence to back up its sexual connotations. We got blasted with pansperm!
'We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.' RPF
There seems to be a disagreement about whether or not organic materials just were here, formed here, or were brought here by an outside source. This article seems to be leaning towards the organic meteor theory but here's a fun question: where did the material on the meteor come from then? The answer is usually "another planet" but then why couldn't the materials have formed here just as easily?
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Looks like scientology was right after all.
These fragments are 6000 years old. Truly mind boggling.
Transfomers got it wrong, he obviously landed in ANTarctica
The panspermian theory seems to be a paradox. If organic matter came from somewhere else to here, how did it get to that somewhere else? And more importantly, how did it form?
The game.
> If organic matter came from somewhere else to here, how did it get to that somewhere else?
FedEx - overnite.
If it turns out to be Ayiana (http://i42.tinypic.com/2lvi62r.jpg), please send me a clone.
Organic material from space... of course...
Looking way out in space and back in time :
http://abstract-beliefs.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-big-is-universe-or-how-small-are-we.html
Looking at the very small to see further:
http://abstract-beliefs.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-small-can-we-see-or-how-big-we-are.html
Almost full circle
http://abstract-beliefs.blogspot.com/2010/04/almost-full-circle-through-science.html
The relevant part of the the first blog post mentioned in the above link (completing the circle):
"Whats to believe?
When the void became aware of itself a split happened into two, consciousness and existence. Two things that either are or they are not but they are symbiotic, given their origin. What exist in consciousness and in existence, are variables. Things change in the content of both. If you are all that exist, how do you know you will continue to exist? You must expand, so to know new and different. The religion of survival, we all have it, even god, where it comes from.
A way of knowing you exist, is to create life that will allow viewing and experiencing the contents of existence and consciousness in part, blind to the whole. We are but recorders that will someday report back to the whole. And what of our purpose, each one of us? To contribute to the insurance of survival. So of what use are you to the whole, if you don't? Why bring or allow you back if you are not going to help survival insurance? When you die and return to the whole, you judge yourself.
The survival instinct, built into all living things. Religion's a word that wouldn't exist without separation of beliefs. But all religions know survival.
The closer you are to knowing what is, the more control you have over what can be.
Made in god's image, we are. But we are in part, not whole. So it is even written, the flaw of god. The split of the void, birth of god. But purity whole is only the void. All outside is in part, including god. So sin but like god, to create, not destroy, as nothing is something to avoid!
Whats to come, perhaps by late 2012.
http://abstract-beliefs.blogspot.com/2010/04/let-there-be-light.html
To find these sub-millimetre-scale particles, Duprat and colleagues melted and sieved untainted snow that fell near the French-Italian CONCORDIA station in central Antarctica between 1955 and 1970.
I suppose since there isn't much dirt in Antarctica, any that you find has as good a chance of being a meteorite as anything else.
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"the particles measure less than 0.25 mm across"
are they sure the particles aren't just roach turds?
Send Kurt Russel to investigate!
Isn't Del Tormo making a movie about this?
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Organic matter != Life though. I'm not sure if Panspermia brought life to Earth or not, but the organic matter in comets isn't alive. It's just the building blocks that could potentally have been involved in life coming into being.
"Organic Material" = Black Oil. Colonization has begun.
Organic matter can mean a lot of different things. Simple organic molecules may form in the gas clouds in space which give origin to planetary systems.
More complex molecules are a different thing, many of those require liquid water to form. The most plausible answer is that compounds such as methane were formed in space and accreted into earth and the other planets.
Then chemistry in the earth atmosphere and oceans built those into more and more complicated structures until life began.
How does one find a grain of sand in the snow of a polar ice cap AND figure out that it is from outer space!?
Makes you wonder how in the world they ever found them.
I call first dibs on sitting in the chair...
but it's weird and pissed off, whatever it is.
I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself, it wants to hide inside an imitation. It'll fight if it has to, but it's vulnerable out in the open. If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies, nobody left to kill it. And then it's won.
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I'm sure we're gonna find some little nose-hair of some alien being that'll PROVE Christianity's just a farce. :)
(It won't, I promise you. You're in MORE danger of proving the Bible right in MORE ways than disproving it.)
Ya know, if it's all random, outta-nowhere conversion of light into matter, and this is just one of a billion Earths all class-M and full of apples and watermelons....
Why bother to study science at all? Randomness would have no 'secret' to decode, right? Pull out of science classes; drink more, don't you watch TV? Have random sex, hurt other people- nothing matters.
Unless it does.
There are dozens of proofs in the Bible; why not investigate for yourself? I used to be like any one of you guys; I used to CARE if a woolly-mammoth was found on another planted. Do you think I reached this conclusion by anything but the same logic you guys are using *right*now*?
Call me if you see a light-speed capable ship. I have a life to live.
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Oy! Be careful with that! Wouldn't want to cause the second impact now...
It sickens me to see child-think like yours come from ostensible adults. I weep for the world.
...even from a purely Christian POV, the parent is entirely nonsensical.
Humans are terrible replicators of Godly things.
The particles in my body date back to the big bang.
This is science. We disprove things for a living. Positive proofs are for math. There will never be a scientific discovery that proves the Bible is, like you imply, a completely true book. Instead, there will continue to be discovery upon discovery that--no matter what the book's place as a fantastic piece of history, the collected stories and an artifact of the gestalt of a bronze-age-era tribe--simply proves the asserted facts as untrue.
If the assertion that upon your death you will experience an eternity of unchanging consciousness doesn't scare the ever-loving shit out of every sane person here, the belief that this looming eternity is the only reason to even go on living should. You and I are the most advanced product of a process that has been ongoing for trillions of years. We are Star Stuff made into a thinking and reasoning being. My species is the ultimate in local technology: There is literally nothing superior to the noble homo sapiens. Science is no more than the process of asking how that happened and trying to answer that question. Your neo-barbarian cult papers over every question with "Ghost man inna sky dunnit."
This is enough of a weasel phrase that nearly any passage could fit it, and it's barely worth considering. But how about this: I assert that you cannot find one single true statement of unambiguous scientific fact in the Bible that goes against the contemporary prevailing beliefs of the society that produced it. Even something as simple as referring to an orbit would qualify, but I'm certain that even that mild of a truth is missing from the Bible.
Yes. You have a life to live. But you're expecting heaven as soon as you die, and here you are suffering through the drudgery of day-to-day life like a sucker. Serious question: Why do Christians not en masse undertake suicidally hazardous activities? Surely offing yourself would be a stronger message than the currency your kind uses today, like pedophile priests, abusive pastors, shouting TV charlatans, and proven fraudulent faith "healers".
Just another "DOJ fascist authoritarian totalitarian bootlicker" -- Zeio
Serious question: Why do Christians not en masse undertake suicidally hazardous activities? Surely offing yourself would be a stronger message than the currency your kind uses today, like pedophile priests, abusive pastors, shouting TV charlatans, and proven fraudulent faith "healers".
Because suicide is a sin. How convenient.
'Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.' - Mao Tse-tung
Where the hell do you get Trillions of years? You're 100 times off and more.
If you're counting only the present incarnation of our universe, then the figure is ~73 times off. Or did you imagine evolution only began when a cell underwent cytokinesis for the first time?
... on in each of the fragments, which would regenerate under the right lab conditions and start/continue their evil vs. good fight over the Universe, Earth included.
Then I thought, maybe it's that Alien x Predator thing.
Then I thought about the Predator working in a new ST franchise... or in B5, with that awesome Alien-like shape-shifting entity from other Universe (7 of 9 is cute but that was a mistake, I think...).
Let me see... I like comets. Right, it's on-topic now. 8-P
Two tiny meteorites recently recovered from Antarctic snow contain material dating back to the birth of our Solar System...
Doesn't all material date back an equal amount of time?
Is... is that a Doctor Who reference?
Reading this, I started wondering why no religions form around new scientific discoveries about the origin of life. Widespread spiritual beliefs and offshoots still seem to form in these latter days, like Scientology, but none seem to form around scientific indications of the origin of life. Scientology, for example, prefers to believe in aliens - something unproven - rather than, say, panspermia, which is a more likely origin story.
Why aren't there worshippers of great panspermia being, whose seed rains down on worlds from on high? Or a god who lives behind the curtain of quantum universes? There are many scientific concepts that would accommodate all the god-like powers we wish to attribute to a thinking being that somehow gives a rats about us.
But religions seem to prefer completely inane explanations involving talking animals and other implausible events. So many amazing discoveries made in recent history about where life came from, and nobody wants to worship them.
"the particles measure less than 0.25 mm across"; so how the hell am I supposed to turn that into my epic sword?
Let's put the genes back in Genesis.
Also in the news:
Bear poop found in the wood.
Heck, I thought all of the snow in the world was melted by now given all of the irreversible global warming that has been going around.
You seem rather upset by the "religion" subject. Understandably--since you would be happy to divert attention from the tens of millions who have died so far from communism--a system grounded in which belief system by the way??
Why are people reaching for the distant origin theory? I hate to break it to these people, but all the molecules necessary for life (C, H, O, N) is/was already available on Earth. In the presence of heat (energy) random molecules form. Add in a few million years, and presto life. It's simple thermodynamics. Or am I missing something?