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Why Google Needs To Pull the Plug On Chrome OS

judeancodersfront writes "It's time for Google to realize that it is way too early to be pushing an OS that only provides a browser. If Chrome OS fails on netbooks it will just make OEMs even more hesitant to use a Linux-based OS instead of Windows. Google should instead build upon its already successful Android platform and provide a system that offers local applications."

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  1. Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And if you are doing a strictly web browser like computer and don't want to use Windows, why not just build a netbook or computer with pre-installed Linux?

    The most frustrating part about Linux to end users is installing it and making sure everything works and that the hardware is supported and configured properly. Computer manufacturers are more than capable of doing that for the end user, and let the end user just boot up the computer. Linux even allows you to customize it perfectly and there are already various distros designed just to be simple and provide browser and such. This also has the advantage of having even some local file storage and not being tied to any single company like Google. You can also customize the OS to receive automatic updates just like Chrome OS and make it so that the casual user doesn't need to do or worry about anything.

    That is meant strictly for people who might enjoy the simplicity of Chrome OS and just having a browser. Personally I want my desktop apps and games to work.

    -sopssa

    1. Re:Linux by danny_lehman · · Score: 5, Informative

      ugh.. i hate you. dont follow the link

  2. Opinionated Article is Confusing by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This guy makes a lot of assumptions.

    Though it looks like Chrome will have a basic media player the dependence on the internet for applications will be too limiting for the typical user.

    So you're telling me that you know for sure I won't be able to bring up Google Docs and access my Google docs when I have no internet connection? Because right now I can do that in the Chrome Browser with Google Gears and they are working on HTML5 which is supposed to natively support this "offline" functionality. But what you're telling me is that they plan on dropping this paradigm?

    No local printing

    All I've heard is that Google Cloud Print and the proxy service for your printer plans to be bundled with Chrome OS. I've not heard whether it's opt-in, opt-out, mandatory or if -- shock of all shocks -- they figure out a way to make it work like Google Gears.

    That’s some advanced technoshit when I have to contact a server in California if I want to print a bbq recipe from a printer that is 2 feet away from me.

    Google Cloud Print aims to make printing from any online device to any printer available. Apart from what you so eloquently claim, they did not set bricking your printer as a goal. Nor did they express a desire to inhibit your ability to print on your printer from your local machine directly. If Google Cloud Print is not opt-in on Chrome OS, I will be just as critical as you but there's no indication one way or the other yet.

    Every consumer OS has a browser. Selling an OS based on the fact that it has a browser is like selling a car based on the doors. Consumers will be confused when they are told that Chrome OS is just a browser. Just a browser?

    And let the terrible analogies flow. Wrap your mind around this: what if the consumer just wants a netbook to surf the internet and do word processing? Like me and my netbook.

    Why can’t I access local files? This netbook actually does less than my cell phone?

    Is it that you can't access local files or that you can't discern between work that's being stored and cached locally versus being out on the cloud? One may claim that this simplifies the user experience. Who cares where it is? I can access it.

    A DS even lets you play local MP3 files.

    You just blew my mind. I've had a Nintendo DS for several years without this ability ... in fact, I don't even thing there's a way to store data of that size on my DS. What on earth are you talking about?

    The $300-$400 price point

    Seriously? People belly-up to pay top dollar for quality and components that come with an Apple Product and then you quibble when Google offers something at a similar price with possibly better quality and components?

    Android

    While Android could run on netbooks, all the development I've done for it is through Google developed Java libraries. It's a trimmed down version of Linux so much so that I'm not sure the full functionality of Linux could be harnessed. I personally don't think the advantages that these modifications hold for handhelds would translate well to netbooks.

    Jerkface Playhouse indeed.

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    1. Re:Opinionated Article is Confusing by Raxxon · · Score: 3, Informative

      You just blew my mind. I've had a Nintendo DS for several years without this ability ... in fact, I don't even thing there's a way to store data of that size on my DS. What on earth are you talking about?

      Using one of the 3rd party cards you can store data on a MicroSD/MicroSDHC and play it back. However this is a device that's normally used for "other" things than playing music... and may/may not be legal where you are. wink,wink nudge,nudge

    2. Re:Opinionated Article is Confusing by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Jerkface Playhouse indeed.

      Well, I for one like this new egalitarian Slashdot that will publish any random moonbat's frothy diatribe purely in order to troll us into dissecting it.

      We bite every time, but isn't that how we like it? Be honest now, would you really want to read a cogently argued article that garnered nothing but "Yup" and "Seems right" responses?

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  3. I Disagree by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only way we're going to get simple web "appliances" is if someone with muscle and money starts pushing them now.

    Google has the resources and the "good name" (at least for now) to make this happen. Simple, safe & secure web appliances will make the basics of e-mail, web surfing and reading common format documents cheap and easy for everyone (this includes the poorer countries of the world). Document & content creation are down the road, but for right now let's get this moving in the right direction.

    1. Re:I Disagree by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We have them.
      They are called Android, WebOS, and iPhone phones. And now the iPad.

      Plus it is just a terrible idea that is crippled from the start.
      Lets take two device.
      1. Chrome OS
      and
      2. Android.

      From the end user point of view what can Chrome do that Android can not?
      I am sure that the Web Apps that run on Chrome OS will work just as well on the Android browser. Unless Google cripples Android which I do not see.
      So the Android smartbook can run all the apps that Chrome OS will
      So 1 point for each Chrome and Android.
      What about all the Android apps that are available on the market place? Well Chrome will not run them but Android will.
      So 1 point for Android and zero for Chrome OS.

      Now from a developers point of view.
      If they want to make a web app do they target Chrome OS or Android? Well no need to choose. Both work just fine. So here is a tie.
      Now suppose the developer doesn't want to run a server? He just wants to write an app. Chrome OS is out of luck but Android is just fine. Plus one for android.
      Suppose the developer wants to sell the app and not depend on advertising? Well the develper could offer subscriptions on line but it is so much easier to just sell the app. another for android.

      Suppose the developer wants the app to only work on a lan that doesn't have an internet connection? You may be able to do something with Gears but again an app is just a clean simple solution.

      A browser only OS is a limited OS.
      Any gains in ease of use will be very limited compared to what we have already gotten with smart phones.

      Chrome OS is a case of philosophy over functionality and to be honest IMHO greed. Google thinks it can make more money off of ads than it has off of apps IMHO.

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    2. Re:I Disagree by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      From the end user point of view what can Chrome do that Android can not?

      What can an Android device do that a PC can't? You're asking the wrong questions.

      A device that has no storage, no potential infections, no installable software ... nothing but a UI and an internet connection. It's the "toaster" of computers. The easier and safer you make them the more they will end up in every room of every home.

      They are not replacements for Android devices, iPads, etc ... nor replacements for full blown computers. Ask a parent if they want their 6 y/o using a controllable "dumb" internet terminal appliance or anything else and they'll tell you "safe and dumb as possible".

  4. Nah by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google has built an empire on having the balls to do stuff that the industry thinks it's "way too early" to do.

    The only thing that makes it too early is that no one has done it right yet.

    Google already provides web versions of office apps, RSS readers/players, photo management, email (naturally), and a ton of other things. From my understanding, online MP3 and eBook repositories are in the works that would allow you to stream that content from centralized storage.

    Essentially, they're preparing to position this thing so that 99% of what people need to do on a computer will be available on this, and since it's all web-based, you effectively get roaming desktop on any ChromeOS terminal you sit down to.

    Besides, I'm willing to bet that while Google themselves won't be making them, they will quite likely setup some ability to install 3rd party applications.

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    1. Re:Nah by L3370 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would argue that Google takes risks on innovation not because they "have the balls," but because they MUST do so to survive.

      Right now advertising makes up over 90 percent of all their profit. Being an innovative tech company, they understand that someone will eventually find a way to beat Google in the advertising business..or at least strongly compete. They need to take huge risks in order to find their next profit stream. If they cannot do this soon they will be taken dismantled by their competitors.

  5. Drop Chrome, but don't adopt Android for netbooks. by wesw02 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree with the assumption that failure of Chrome OS could be harmful to the general comfort of using Linux-Based OS's however I think substituting Android is almost as bad of an idea. Don't get me wrong, I love android, I own two android phones and have developed a few apps for the platform. I just think you should use the right tool for the right job and putting Android on netbooks doesn't fit.

  6. Linux? by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If Chrome OS fails on netbooks it will just make OEMs even more hesitant to use a Linux-based OS instead of Windows.

    Hesitant to use a Linux-based OS? Doubtful. If Chrome OS fails, OEMs might be hesitant to use a Google-developed OS on future products but I don't think it'll impact their view of Linux-based OSes one bit. Either they're open to them or they aren't - the success or failure of Chrome won't change that. What will change is their opinion on Google's offerings. Google should hold off to make sure their foray into the OS market doesn't die before they get a chance to succeed. Unlike the web, you can't release a beta OS into the market and fix it until it works. Consumers who are buying products won't wait around for you to get it right. On the web, sure - knock yourself out. Take a few years to polish the product until you're happy and content to remove the beta tag. On people's computers, either a person is enough of a tinkerer that they'll play with their OS more than Google will or they just want their computer to work and will expect the OS to be finished (as much as can be reasonably expected) from the get-go.

    Chrome will have no impact, positive nor negative, upon anyone's opinion of Linux-based OSes. It will only impact people's opinions on Google's OS offerings.

  7. Bad car analogy alert by ciaohound · · Score: 3, Funny

    Selling an OS based on the fact that it has a browser is like selling a car based on the doors.

    Obviously he hasn't considered the Mercedes AMG gullwing.

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  8. "Independent .Net developer"? by lophophore · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I will take my advice on Linux and Netbooks from an "independent .Net developer".

    NOT.

    Why was this "news" even posted? Slashdot editor fail.

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  9. Why would Google support local applications? by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > Google should instead build upon its already successful Android platform
    > and provide a system that offers local applications.

    Google doesn't want anyone to run local applications.

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  10. um What? by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Chrome OS fails on netbooks it will just make OEMs even more hesitant to use a Linux-based OS instead of Windows.

    OEMs are not hesitant to use a Linux-based OS on netbooks. They started off with it. The problem was that most of the target market wanted Windows. Those customers were not comfortable with the various Linux distributions being used and they couldn't run the applications they wanted. OEMs are out to make money. Windows may cut into the per unit margin, but if they sell enough units then the OEMs make up the difference in volume.

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  11. Re:Drop Chrome, but don't adopt Android for netboo by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Funny

    I love android, I own two android phones and have developed a few apps for the platform.

    Have you used Android?

    Now I'm understanding of not RTFA, but not reading your fucking parent post is a bit much I think.

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  12. Breaking News! Random Blogger has something to say by buback · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know who this guy is. He might be some teenager sitting in his parents basement. There's no explanation in the post why i should care what this guy thinks. And it is just one guy; it's not like this is a link to an article about how "some study finds devs hate Chrome OS." It's just a blog post.

    Why is this on Slashdot?