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Apple Loses Another 4th-Gen iPhone
An anonymous reader noted that Apple appears to have lost another of its 4th generation iPhones. This doesn't seem like the most efficient distribution mechanism, Steve. Wonder if the SWAT team will get called in.
Couldn't be intentional to drum up interest?
I don't believe in karma, I just call it like I see it.
because steve will have a hard time convincing obama to go to round two with vietnam?
What ever happened to finders keepers??
If Apple is gonna keep losing their 4G iPhones, I seriously think law enforcement needs to stop helping them. Apple is careless and that's the price they pay.
Kindergarden playground rules don't apply in the Real World. IANAL, but I do know that from a legal standpoint I can "store" my property anywhere I want and it doesn't cease being mine just because you can pick it up and carry it off.
Oh look, I found your Porsche parked on the street. I'll just take it home with me. Finders keepers. I don't think so.
Instead of exposing themselves to corporate controlled police action again they decided to export the phone to a free country before publishing their victory.
Wait, there is something seriously wrong about this...
Asshat racism of the parent aside, with a CNC machine and an existing iPhone, you could make a fake pretty easily.
Easy and cheap - "look, we got to the front page of /. again, practically for free".
I personally can't stand it anymore, I wish people would just stop reporting such thing when it's obviously going to benefit their guerilla marketing strategy. Then again, do whatever you want. I'll try to find a way to get rid of the Apple category in my browser on here for good... G5 and that was the end.
even assuming foul play, pickpocketing != robbery.
robbery implies threats of violence.
So if someone breaks into your house while you're away on vacation, you can't say that you've been robbed?!?!?!?
And a full apology from the Storm Troopers?
At this point, it's pretty clear that NOTHING WAS STOLEN, clearly, Apple is intentionally "losing" these phones to continue to generate buzz. So unless Jason Chen was part of the viral marketing campaign (if so, I hope he's being paid real well to have his door kicked in), I think the California Police Department of Overreaction owes this guy some crow-eating.
Apple is the guilty party, and you can't be in possetion of stolen property if it was intentionally "lost" by the rightful owner. That's called a "free sample". And if the Police State we live in can't tell the difference anymore, then companies shouldn't be allowed to viral market.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
- An inside job, or some otherwise corporate espionage thing. I don't see what they would gain here other than seeing what Apple's internals look like a few weeks early, which wouldn't help them rush a product to market ahead of Apple.
if it was corporate espionage, it'd be locked in a lab somewhere, being dissected by an electron microscope, not on a vietnamese blog.
What ? Me, worry ?
I doubt it myself but it is generating quite a bit of interweb buzz around the new phone.
I think it is an appropriate time to misquote Oscar Wilde:
"To lose one phone, Mr. Jobs, may be regarded as a misfortune. To lose both looks like carelessness."
if it was corporate espionage, it'd be locked in a lab somewhere, being dissected by an electron microscope, not on a vietnamese blog.
Get real. Almost all of Apple's product are using standard off the shelf components. How do you think strip down site are able to list costs to build so quickly?
even assuming foul play, pickpocketing != robbery.
robbery implies threats of violence.
So if someone breaks into your house while you're away on vacation, you can't say that you've been robbed?!?!?!?
This is one of those areas where /. readers love to pontificate on the precise meaning of words and totally lose sight of what the intent might be.
So, if someone breaks into your house, they can:
* take pictures of every page of your diary; ...after they've copied all the files, including your final draft of the book you're writing for O'Reilly.
* write down your social security number and any passwords they might find;
* take a copy of your spare set of car keys;
* format your hard drive;
*
But in the world of /., nothing tangible has been taken from you, so it's not theft or stealing. (It's not even copyright infringement, in the cases posited above.) Neat, huh?
yes, and the word you're searching for is trespassing
don't let your shallow language knowledge hinder you on your way to dig.
ally lose sight of what the intent might be.
So, if someone breaks into your house, they can:
* take pictures of every page of your diary; ...after they've copied all the files, including your final draft of the book you're writing for O'Reilly.
* write down your social security number and any passwords they might find;
* take a copy of your spare set of car keys;
* format your hard drive;
*
But in the world of /., nothing tangible has been taken from you, so it's not theft or stealing. (It's not even copyright infringement, in the cases posited above.) Neat, huh?
Yeah, and if I see someone fail to stop on the red lights, I can't call it hit-and-run! And have you even tried to call jaywalking embezzlement? People behave as if words had some kind of agreed-upon meanings!
It's breaking and entering, identity theft, and unauthorized access to a computer. Those crimes probably involve a longer amount of jail time, combined, than simple robbery.
Um, still B&E...
Not corporate espionage by competitors, but by journalists.
Face it - Gizmodo pretty much scooped up a pile of money off their iPhone 4G reveal - 2 million+ hits on that article alone, plus all the milking (Giz ran daily "iPhone 4G Saga" summary articles for a few weeks afterwards to milk more hits). It happened with ThinkSecret paying people to violate their NDAs on purpose to get the scoop on rumors. It happened with Gizmodo getting a whole pile of hits from everywhere and coverage in other media outlets.
Exclusives sell. Giz had an excluslve peek at the new iPhone, and you can be sure they made off like bandits because of it. The site making a pile off advertising, and practically the big guys at Giz getting far more name recognition.
Competitors to Apple like Nokia, RIM, HTC, etc. Not a chance to scoop Apple by seeing what's going to be released in a few months. But corporate espionage to scoop advertising bucks and site hits for money, that's gold.
The whole SWAT thing is different - journalist shield laws do not cover illegal (or potentially illegal) actions done by journalists - i.e., you can't use them as a get-out-of-jail-free card. They only protect a journalist who is keeping their source anonymous for whatever reason, not keeping the journalist from getting away with anything from a speeding ticket to murder.
I tend to beleive these are some cheap knockoffs made in Asia.
Them being knock offs would mean that Apple filed a false police report.
I don't always use unix-like operating systems; but when I do, I prefer FreeBSD.
Yeah, 'cause all corporations have perfect and instant total information awareness throughout all levels of employees and branches of their offices so it's totally like dealing directly with a person who lost a wallet (assuming you are asking the right person in the first place).
Burglary: breaking into a structure with the intent of committing a crime
So...in the attempt of burglarizing someone's house while they sleep
Dammit no! The verb for breaking into a house is "to burgle", not "to burglarize". Someone who burgles is a burglar, so "to burglarize" would mean "to turn someone into a burglar" or "to become a burglar". Obviously, you can't do that to a house
Lets be realistic here. If you're smart enough to know that you're looking at a prototype iPhone, you're smart enough to know that ringing Apple's consumer phone line is not going to get you anywhere and that you should at least call the bar. Of course, you may also be smart enough to only call Apple anyway, so that it looks as if you tried to return the phone, even if you never intended to.
This is going to be an unpopular question, but is Steve a Scientologist, heh?
You can lead a man with reason but you can't make him think.
Let see. Person find phone on bar. the owner no where around. Trie to contact the owner. No luck Calls Apple, Apple insists it isn't theirs.
And this is the point where you have to give it to the police. Crazy californians, I know. Surely nowhere else are such crazy laws in place.
Or are there ...?