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Wikipedia Is Not Amused By Entry For xkcd-Coined Word

ObsessiveMathsFreak writes "Today's xkcd comic introduced an unusual word — malamanteau — by giving its supposed definition on Wikipedia. The only trouble is that the word (as well as its supposed wiki page) did not in fact exist. Naturally, much ado ensued at the supposed wiki page, which was swiftly created in response to the comic. This article has more on how the comic and the confusion it caused have put the Net in a tizzy. It turns out that a malamanteau is a portmanteau of portmanteau and malapropism, but also a malapropism of portmanteau. All this puts Wikipedia in the confusing position of not allowing a page for an undefined word whose meaning is defined via the Wikipedia page for that word — and now I have to lie down for a moment."

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  1. Simple Solution by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Add it to the list in the xkcd article under Inspired Activities and redirect the malamanteau page to that subsection and be done with it. And now for some humor directed back at Munroe:

    *puts blanket over his head and grabs a webcam* How fucking dare anyone out there make fun of Wikipedia after all it has been through! It lost its father, it went through a fundraiser. It had two fuckin libel suits filed against it. Larry Sanger turned out to be a user, a liar, and now he's accusing it of hosting childporn. All you people care about is ... xkcd readers and making money off of it. IT'S A WEBSITE! Wahhhh. Ooooh. What you don’t realize is that Wikipedia is making you all this money and all you do is draw a bunch of crappy web comics about it. It hasn’t been featured in the news in years. Its slogan is “the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit” for a reason because all you people want is to EDIT! EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT! LEAVE IT ALONE! You are lucky it even is hosted for you BASTARDS! LEAVE WIKIPEDIA ALONE! Please. Randall Munroe talked about a fancy neologism and said if Wikipedia was a professional it wouldn't delete malamanteau no matter what. Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash something that is going through a hard time? Leave Wikipedia Alone Please ... Leave Wikipedia.org alone! ... right now! ... I mean it! Anyone that has a problem with Wikipedia you deal with me, because it is not well right now.

    LEAVE IT ALONE!

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    1. Re:Simple Solution by biryokumaru · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ya, me neither. I just get on 4chan if I need to look stuff up these days. Much more reliable.

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    2. Re:Simple Solution by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Funny

      LEAVE IT ALONE!

      Left to its own devices, Wikipedia would degenerate under the rule of deletionists until finally only one page--Wikipedia--remained on the site. This would then be nominated for deletion.

      Actually, that sounds like a rather good outcome. Perhaps you're on to something.

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    3. Re:Simple Solution by Peach+Rings · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wikipedia is a successful project. You can read mostly well-written summaries of nearly every single area of human knowledge, and for the most part it's accurate and accessible with nice diagrams etc.

      I'm also tempted by that decentralized approach, but when I think about it I know that I wouldn't want to deal with ridiculous one-off articles like malamanteau just because people are having fun dicking around. The internet should be free and decentralized, and Wikipedia's policies are arbitrary and stupid, but sometimes you just want something that works! A coherent high-quality project can't succeed with waves of Internet anarchy pounding at its foundations. If you want a project where only experts and trusted people can edit, then go buy the Encyclopedia Britannica. If you want a project that anybody can edit then you have to deal with people.

    4. Re:Simple Solution by jeremyp · · Score: 5, Funny

      what an original idea. Let me offer you my most sincere contrafibularities.

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    5. Re:Simple Solution by Thinboy00 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The problem I have with Wikipedia is that it refuses to create strict rules and follow them. It has stupid 'Notability' nonsense instead where it's just totally arbitrary.

      Do you know how many pages of rules (and whatnot) there are on notability?

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  2. Re:If by today's you mean yesterday's... by 2obvious4u · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the TFA - This is what I was looking for yesterday when I checked the wikipage:

    Malapropism means to use a word in place of another word that makes the same sound, but doesn’t deliver an appropriate meaning, for example, odorous for odious, comprehended for apprehended and auspicious for suspicious and benefactors for malefactors. All these are Malapropos of each other. Now the second word portmanteau means to merge two words with each other in such a way that the sounds of the two words become merged as well as their meanings. In this case malamanteau is a portmanteau of portmanteau and Malapropism, whereas malamanteau is also a Malapropos of portmanteau. The meaning of the new word is still to be created properly.

  3. The most scary part is the number of googleresults by TheSunborn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I still think that the most scary(And interesting) part is that google now have 152,000 hits for the word. So a: Google is fast at picking up new words. It really generated a lot of interest and there are quite some spammers with some effective automatic page generation systems.

  4. Real Power by thepike · · Score: 5, Funny

    And people say kids these days put too much stock in wikipedia. Come on, they won't even let an undefined word be added even after it clearly becomes defined by xkcd.

    Now the power to change google search results, make new words, and cause spontaneous gatherings at random locations. That's power that only stick figures can be trusted with.

  5. NOT BBC NEWS! by molo · · Score: 5, Informative

    The link in TFA: http://www.bbcnewsamerica.com/malamanteau-wikipedia.html

    This site does not appear to be related to BBC News, it is actually registered to a guy in Pakistan:


    Domain Name: BBCNEWSAMERICA.COM

    Registrant:
            Digghost.net
            Shahbaz Ali (info@digghost.net)
            DHA Lahore
            Lahore
            Punjab,54000
            PK
            Tel. +092.3218830642

    Creation Date: 16-Feb-2010

    For reference, BBC World News America has this website:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/world_news_america/default.stm

    -molo

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    1. Re:NOT BBC NEWS! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Unfortunately, I only realised this mistake after I posted the submission. This particular story has in fact been copied around an endless list of such spam sites, but I was totally unable to find the original source, so I couldn't make a proper submission update in time. It'd probably be best if the link was taken out of the story altogether as the site linked to is essentially plagarising whoever initially wrote it.

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  6. Re:If by today's you mean yesterday's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's a very hirsute observation.

  7. The problem... by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem isn't really with xkcd. The problem is that there are tens of thousands of idiots out there who think they're as funny as xkcd. If the Wikipedia administrators only had to deal with the once-in-a-blue-moon comic vandalism by Randall Munroe or Stephen Colbert, this would be a non-issue. Unfortunately, when these idiots take it upon themselves to try to convince their buddies that they are as funny as the people who really are funny, it makes life awful difficult for people trying to maintain a useful site.

    I'm GLAD they take themselves seriously. If we didn't have folks working on behalf of Wikipedia that did, looking up information on anything would be precisely as useful and informative as looking up information on malamanteau.

    1. Re:The problem... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No one is saying its XKCD's fault. I think just about everyone on slashdot would agree that since XKCD has poked fun at Wikipedia time and time and time and time and time again, that the comic has a reputation for this kind of thing and shouldn't catch anyone off guard.

      The only thing that should have been unexpected was people flooding to Wikipedia to look it up, (in which case, Randall would have expected it surely, but not Wikipedia). Its not like it crashed the servers, people just got ridiculous about what it should say, and as such, the fault lies on those stupid individuals.

      Had I coined a new word on Urban Dictionary, and it caught on, and people flooded Wikipedia as well to look it up, would I be blamed? I sure hope not.

  8. Re:Best. Joke. Ever. by bertoelcon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Posted AC because xkcd has 10^3 kg of fanboys.

    1000 kg is only a dozen people though.

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  9. Re:Best. Joke. Ever. by abigor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Posted AC because xkcd has 10^3 kg of fanboys.

    So that's like what, eight or nine Slashdotters.

  10. Re:LOL by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 5, Funny

    I say this because every person I know that uses wikipedia as a reference is in fact an idiot.

    [Citation Needed]

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  11. Re:LOL by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...And does it matter? You know, disk space and bandwidth is cheap. It would cost what? $.0001 to create an article about this? And the flamewars going on about it are costing more bandwidth and disk space than the article itself would have.

    Honestly, Wikipedia editors are the worst, they take what should be an encyclopedia filled with -everything- and try to narrow it down to fit what they want.

    Does Wikipedia -lose- anything if it accepts an article that is a word coined by xkcd? Of course not.

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  12. Re:It exhibits no creativity. by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Informative

    xkcd exhibits no creativity.

    http://xkcd.com/195/
    http://xkcd.com/249/
    http://xkcd.com/426/
    http://xkcd.com/681/

    These seem reasonably original.

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  13. We Are Now At XKCD DEFCON 4 by jalefkowit · · Score: 5, Funny

    The XKCD threat has officially been upgraded from "Unfunny But Harmless" to "Somewhat Annoying".

    Luckily for them, the Internet doesn't scramble its bombers until DEFCON 2 ("Almost As Problematic As 4chan").

  14. You people have no patience! by Tetsujin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    TL;DR

    Oh, come on, it wasn't that long. I'm sick of people being so short in their attention span that they have to complain about any piece of text not short enough for Twitter.

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    1. Re:You people have no patience! by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 5, Funny

      When boobies are a mouse-click away, you gotta make your point quickly.

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    2. Re:You people have no patience! by chudnall · · Score: 5, Funny

      So.... Can you sum that up in a couple of sentences for me?

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  15. Re:Best. Joke. Ever. by Tetsujin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Posted AC because xkcd has 10^3 kg of fanboys.

    So that's like what, eight or nine Slashdotters.

    Or your mom.

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  16. Re:LOL by Twinbee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you seen those pages vandalized with dozens of [citation please]? [citation needed] Too often it's a result of an asshole or douchebag putting the numerous [citation please] tags, just because he (usually a he [citation needed]) either refuses to use his brains properly [citation needed], or has some personal vendetta against the contributor [citation needed]. Because the asshole could easily have used: "This section may contain original research or unverified claims.". [citation needed]

    There, fixed that for you.

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