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Apple Is Nintendo's "Enemy of the Future"

Pickens writes "The San Francisco Chronicle reports that video game industry revenue fell by 26 percent in April, adding more concerns about the health of the industry in the worst year-over-year decline since July 2009. But the big news is that the decline in portable sales makes up 61 percent of the overall monthly decline, suggesting that the Nintendo DS platform is losing steam but also reflecting the growing clout of the iPhone platform as the iPhone and iPod Touch continue to draw in more casual gamers, the iPad offers a bigger screen experience, and Apple announces the 'Game Center' — a social gaming hub with console-like online gaming features. Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata is understood to have told his senior executives recently to regard the battle with Sony as a victory already won and to treat Apple, and its iPhone and iPad devices, as the 'enemy of the future.' 'If Nintendo's future mobile platforms are to be any kind of success, the company will have to figure out how to take on the ease of use afforded by the App Store,' writes Nicholas Deleon. A large part of Nintendo's faith in reviving its efforts hinge on the 3DS, which may ship in the fall, the first truly major handheld introduction for Nintendo since the original DS in 2004. He adds, 'Maybe Nintendo should just release a phone?'"

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  1. can't see the forest for the trees... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I disagree with the premise of the article.

    I believe the lack of video game sales is due to the crappy economy overall, not because of things like the iPhone/iPod/iPad.

    I could be wrong, but I feel their view is too shallow.

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    1. Re:can't see the forest for the trees... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So why would we see it happening more now, and not previously? These hard economic times did not begin recently; as one of the first to go, you'd think entertainment spending would have taken a bigger hit some time ago.

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    2. Re:can't see the forest for the trees... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Informative
      Emphasis mine:

      The economy has continued to worsen in the previous two years and unemployment continues to rise.

      Depends on how you calculate it. Unemployment is only continuing to rise because we've been using numbers that underestimate the unemployed; as we correct for that (rather, it corrects itself as more people are trying to enter the workforce), the unemployment number can be going up even though we have more people gainfully employed.

      I wish we could use employment figures instead of unemployment figures, it'd be a lot more clear. Currently unemployment figures are based on something like this, with B being the "unemployment" figures:

      A) Fully Employed
      B) Unemployed, but looking for work
      C) Unemployed, but not looking
      D) Underemployed

      The current situation is that people are moving from C to B, and so the "unemployment" figure is going up, even though A (fully employed people) is also going up.

      If you really want to look at video game spending as a function of general economic health, you should compare the video game market to consumer spending. Consumer spending has risen for seven months straight -- yet video game sales haven't mirrored this rise in spending. So it's likely that the cause of decreased sales is dependent on more factors than just the general state of the economy.

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    3. Re:can't see the forest for the trees... by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      HL2 is indie? DOOM is indie? Monkey island was made by lucas arts, kiddo. These were the biggest games of their time.

      Modern Warfare is the same shit over again, we all have already played CoD we don't need to see it again.

  2. No no no no by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well maybe Nintendo could release a phone. I'm not against that. I guess. I don't know how I feel about that.

    But what I'm really noing to is WHY the sales are dropping. Its not because of the iPhone.

    It's because the DS is almost 6 years old. Nov 2004 was its release. Anyone who has wanted a DS, already has one. Nintendo foolishly tried to enhance the sales with the DS Lite and DSi. How shocked am I to find that nintendo fans who purchased a DS, don't feel the need to buy a DS lite, or a DSi. So how much money went into those two projects, and really what benefit did they expect to see? Did they expect a resurgence of sales? They merely expanded the market of the DS by small margins. And so only those who didn't wants a DS for various reasons would be so inclined to buy a DS lite or DSi, hoping those reasons would be resolved.

    I'll stick my neck out and make this claim: If Nintendo decided to launch a new handheld - and it was different than the DS or Gameboy, it would sell well. Problem is that Nintendo has started to fall apart on their innovative ideas. The Wii has also been out for 4 years now, and the only innovation they've added to it has been the Wii Fit board 2 years ago, and the DS gets rehashes.

    So, when Apple releases a new phone, and it sells, Nintendo isn't losing because its a threat in any sense, its more or less that Nintendo's sales have already plateau'd and started to have fallen, and Apple sales just happen to be on the rise.

    Correlation != causation.

  3. Competition is legion by jasno · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems like there are all kinds of things competing for the attention of gamers nowadays. I can't really see 'bejeweled' or whatever the hell the kids are playing on their iPads competing with WoW or whatever. But what about huge timesinks like facebook, twitter, youtube, and even internet news/chat/etc?

    I can't say... I just hit 35 and I've damn near lost my ability to sit still in front of a video game. It just feels like a giant sucking waste of time - then again I'm posting on /., so what does that say about me?

    Even when I did game, I'd put down $40 for half-life and get... 4-5 years out of it. So I guess I'm not a typical gamer.

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  4. From laughed at to "Enemy of the future" in 1 yr. by hmbcarol · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Gee a few months ago, they were not taking Apple seriously... Apple "...is not having an impact on Nintendo... I’ve seen data that suggests that while consumers are constantly downloading apps, they play with them for a few times and then they are moving on to the next thing,” Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America’s president, told Kotaku. “Clearly it doesn’t look like their platform is a viable profit platform for game development because so many of the games are free versus paid downloads.” "iPhone and iPad not viable gaming platforms", "Apple games are not even a mouthful" A year ago, Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo was argued that iPhones and Nintendo products were not competitors because they appealed to different people.

  5. Again?! by RyanFenton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This story is eerily similar to the previous "Oh NO! Nintendo sales are down!" article about the Wii. Nintendo is the dominant player of the market, and sales are down, BECAUSE ALMOST EVERYONE POSSIBLE ALREADY HAS A DS.

    Market saturation, mixed with the usual mid-year games lull, and the anticipated rollout of a new platform combine to lower sales numbers. Does that mean competitors are taking over the market? No, no it doesn't.

    I'm not crazy about "does this mean that...?" style of journalism. Speculation is fine - but it isn't news. Yet, this style of "journalism" seems to be rising as other forms of journalism are going out of business. It's fine for arguments, but annoying when there's too much of it, too often.

    Ryan Fenton

  6. Re:Not just Ease of Purchase, but Ease of Transiti by fermion · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I keep thinking the same thing. Kids don't buy these things, parents do. An iPod touch lasts for ever, I have already seen hand me downs. Sync off same account. And it can do so much more. For every Nintendo and Sony I see, I see 10 iPod touches or iPhones. I see some of the Nintendo units used by the under age 10 set, but Apple is gaining traction for mobile gaming.

    As far as the buttons, Apple is not trying to get existing gamers. Apple is targeting the younger people, who want to game, who want to use facebook, who want to watch movies, and will not make a choice. They have hot spots at school. These are kids who can take a DSi to school, and guarantee that it will be confiscated, or an iPhone or Touch with they can defend as having a semi-legitimate value. The main problem most marketers make is seldom looking at the emerging market. The market that has not been trained with buttons.

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