The Pirate Bay Sinks And Swims

mikael_j writes "This morning the German ISP that had been hosting The Pirate Bay's website and search engine shut the site down. A few hours later the website was back up, this time with hosting provided by the Swedish Pirate Party, which issued a press release (in Swedish) explaining why they have chosen to host The Pirate Bay."

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Press release in english

[martenfjallstrom]

Courtesy of Engström, pirate MEP: http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/the-swedish-pirate-party-delivers-bandwidth-to-the-pirate-bay/

Re:Press release in english

[Ephemeriis]

How would shorter copyright terms solve that issue?

Well, if the copyright term was shorter, the copy in the vault may not have degraded by the time copyright expired. And then you could release that vault copy into the wild.

Copyright law didn't prevent someone else storing an archival copy until copyright expiration

Actually, it does.

Copyright law means that I can dictate who makes copies and under what conditions. So if the only copies I allow are low-quality, or severely edited, or DRM-encumbered, or self-destructing... Then there's no way anyone out there can store an archival copy.

Frankly, unless I'm handing out copies of my original filmstock with no DRM or anything like that, folks are going to have one hell of a time using any of their copies for archival purposes.

and you would still have no right to go and take those original negatives...

Generally speaking, you don't want the original negatives.

The original negatives for Avatar, for example, are just going to be a bunch of people running around in front of a green screen.

What you want is a clean, full copy of the work as it appeared for public consumption. Without any DRM or encryption or limitations. Without it being reformatted for fullscreen TVs or anything like that.

A good, clean, full copy that can then be used to master additional copies in various formats.

Generally speaking, this is not available.

These guys never go down...

[TrisexualPuppy]

They never asked for money as other torrent sites did for legal costs. They have managed to make it against all odds. Props to TPB!

Re:These guys never go down...

[Any Web Loco]

Hi -

I'm one of the younger managers at a large multinational. Were you, a "hopefullintern", wearing a TPB t-shirt at my office I'd think twice about your professionalism.

What you do on your own time is your own business - but imho your support of TPB is probably best not demonstrated at your place of business, espcaially when you work for a major IT co!

Don't get me wrong - I support TPB and I've got the t-shirt too - but there's a time & a place.

Cheers,

awl

This is not about the trackers

[chrb]

From TF translation:

"The Pirate Party delivers bandwidth to the home page and the search engine The Pirate Bay, while the tracker and the torrent files that were previously on the page are now hosted elsewhere. These were never affected by the German court decision."

Re:News?

[Anonymous Coward]

I think it is. The German ISP which previously advertised the Pirate Bay ASN ("provided access to the Pirate Bay servers") was forced with an injunction to cut access. This is noteworthy because they had filed a "Schutzschrift", which is supposed to give the target of an injunction a chance to be heard before the injunction. The injunction was granted without giving the ISP a chance for defense. That is only acceptable if the matter is urgent, which it clearly is not.

Re:All good and well,

[dsavi]

Here's the page from the Swedish Pirate Party's homepage, run through Google Translate: "Golden Pirate"

Re:All good and well,

[kthreadd]

On their web site under the link titled donations. http://www.piratpartiet.se/donate

Re:Bankrupt ? HAHAHAHAHAAH

[richie2000]

the moment they put up an international donation page, they would get flooded with money. remember obama's campaign and how he floated on $5 donations as opposed to clinton and won.

http://www.piratpartiet.se/donate

Re:Mostly a symbolic victory?

[icebraining]

TPB is just a place to download torrent files. That's not how the MPAA "catches" you; they act as a normal client, connect to other peers and log their IP addresses.

There's nothing you can do, besides setting up a private tracker where everyone is trusted, or using a anonymising proxy like IPREDator.

Re:I'm not sure how I feel about this

[Anonymous Coward]

The same was true for the greens a couple of elections ago (s(/IP/environment) - now they're probably the third biggest party (poll in swedish) of the seven currently in our parliament (a couple are close to not getting in [4% minimum], and we might (risk) get a right-wing nationalist party in for the first time on the national level, after the next election.

Pirate Party of Canada

[TihSon]

The Pirate Party is spreading across the globe, and in spite of a corporate war against culture, it is not going away anytime soon. These issues are not easy, and when they are eventually resolved they will not satisfy everyone, but unless all the players come to the table, all that remains for the average citizen of the world is to play the role of pirate. A role given to them by the buggy whip salesmen of the last century who will not allow their business model to grow.

http://www.pirateparty.ca

Re:hey, traditional media distributors:

[brit74]

My name is Legion: for we are many.

Hm. Wasn't "Legion" the name of the demons that possessed a man in the Bible? I have to give you credit for subtly slamming pirates.

And He (Jesus) asked him (the man), "What is thy name?" And he answered, saying, "My name is Legion: for we [demons] are many."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_(demon)

Re:Bankrupt ? HAHAHAHAHAAH

[Jah-Wren Ryel]

remember obama's campaign and how he floated on $5 donations as opposed to clinton and won.

Not so much:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/apr/22/barack-obama/obama-campaign-financed-large-donors-too/