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The Go-Anywhere Cyber Cafe In a Shipping Container

nk497 writes "UK IT charity Computer AID has come up with a clever idea to use shipping containers to house thin-client-based, solar-powered cyber cafes, which can be used to bring connectivity to rural communities in Africa. The £20,000 boxes use a single Pentium 4 PC split out using thin client devices to offer computing to 10 people via local wireless access or mobile broadband. The solar power created from a single panel is enough to power the PC, 10 monitors, lighting, and also to charge mobile phones. Computer Aid founder Tony Roberts notes, 'The power of this idea is that we can drop that container anywhere in the world, literally in the middle of the Sahara desert.'"

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  1. that much!? by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 4, Insightful

    20 grand?! Must be some pricey solar panels... Containers aren't that expensive...

  2. Pentium 4? by marciot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A Pentium 4 powering ten web browsers? I hope everyone doesn't go to YouTube at once.

  3. Pentium 4? by NaCh0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They should have went with a more power efficient (and faster) core 2 duo. It's not like the cost difference would have been noticeable given the cost of the shipping container, solar panels, etc.

  4. Convenient by TheMeuge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They make everything in convenient container sizes now:

    - servers
    - internet cafes
    - anti-ship missiles
    - nuclear reactors
    - nuclear bombs

    Shipping containers are the "in" thing to do nowadays.

  5. why not use amd?? by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 4, Informative

    why not use amd?? more cores at less power then intel.

    and a P4 with HT? Dual core? doing 10 VM like systems?

    How much ram does it have 256? 512? 1g 2g 4g?

    1. Re:why not use amd?? by threephaseboy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Post made entirely of questions

      (Score:5, Informative)

      Never change, slashdot.

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  6. Cargo cult by ugen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dropping this container in the middle of Africa is a good way to establish a new cargo cult.

    Seriously, though - why are these people so intent on providing Internet access to countries and people that need many more basic things in life first (including proper hygiene, medical care, food, clothing, development of civic society, business, infrastructure, etc etc). Providing internet without these other things results in proliferation of "Nigerian scams" and very little else.

    1. Re:Cargo cult by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was just wondering how far down I'd have to scroll to see this traditional response to this type of story:

      Dropping this container in the middle of Africa is a good way to establish a new cargo cult.

      Seriously, though - why are these people so intent on providing Internet access to countries and people that need many more basic things in life first (including proper hygiene, medical care, food, clothing, development of civic society, business, infrastructure, etc etc). Providing internet without these other things results in proliferation of "Nigerian scams" and very little else.

      You're responding to a post about a:

      ( ) Technical innovation in a developing country
      (*) Product shipped to a developing market
      ( ) General discussion about IT in the developing world

      The location is:

      (*) Africa
      ( ) India
      ( ) Bangladesh
      ( ) China
      ( ) Somewhere else in Asia
      ( ) South America
      ( ) Central America
      ( ) Other _unspecified_

      You're objecting to it on the basis that:

      (*) Poverty hasn't been eliminated in that country yet
      ( ) American jobs will be lost

      Your argument is bogus because:

      ( ) Poverty hasn't been eliminated in the developed world either, that doesn't mean we should halt all technological research
      ( ) This will not adversely affect any efforts to alleviate poverty
      (*) This will help to alleviate poverty
      ( ) Poverty in that country isn't as widespread as you say it is
      ( ) The US does not have a divine right to keep all the cool jobs

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    2. Re:Cargo cult by DavidR1991 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whilst I would generally agree with this kind of debunking, I have to disagree this time around - purely because of the cost. This is a massive amount of money. 'High level' stuff (computers, internet etc.) can wait until basic amenities are fully in place. This huge amount of money can be spent on something more crucial before computers etc. because very few people die because lack of a computer in a cargo carrier. Coupled with the fact the first one is going to Zambia of all places - which is stricken not only by poverty but also AIDS

      I get where you're coming from. The idea everyone in place X is struck by poverty is naive. But Zambia of all places is not exactly in dire need of computing power versus other kinds of donations. To top it off, a good 20% of their population is AIDs positive.

    3. Re:Cargo cult by Jeremi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Seriously, though - why are these people so intent on providing Internet access to countries and people that need many more basic things in life first

      What does it matter to you? It's their charity, their money, and therefore their decision about what they want to do. If you think people need something else more, start your own damn charity.

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  7. OK... I'll bite... by denzacar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How in the hell will this alleviate poverty?

    Let's take Nigeria for example.
    I KNOW FOR A FACT that they've got both Internet AND a working postal system there. I've seen the evidence.

    How will the "Internet in a box" magically alleviate poverty there? You can't just have the whole country running 419 scams.

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    1. Re:OK... I'll bite... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Internet access helps alleviate poverty in the same way that cell phones: by removing intermediaries and giving farmers access to up-to-date pricing information and buyers.

      Or did technology that dramatically improves communication suddenly cease to be useful because you don't have derivatives to sell?

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  8. Re:I could see $20k by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative
    Used shipping containers are dirt cheap. They're piling up because it's cheaper to make new ones than to ship the old ones back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvcUe_yPHdg

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jun/15/20060615-122003-3483r/

    But then you have to finish the insides. I could see $20k, especially with insulation.

    I bet you've never seen the inside of a shipping container. You can get them with wooden interior walls, floor, and ceiling. Air them out, slap on a coat of paint, and you're good to go. People are buying them to make work sheds, etc., you can get a 40' for $1500 0 $1700 without even trying,

  9. Solar-powered thin client labs by terminak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I worked for an NGO in Cambodia (http://www.kapekh.org) that implemented a similar program with thin clients powered by solar panels, but without the cargo container.

    The program saw these thin clients installed within high school computer rooms, and had the simple goal of teaching office skills to impoverished high school children. Prior, we had a dozen or so standard computer labs that had endless issues with maintenance, misuse (video games, vcds, etc) and the expense of electricity. Thin clients ended up being way easier all around. Prior to getting USAID funding, we were sourcing them directly from a Chinese vendor.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7OYQzv75Pk - A video of one of our first labs being opened and an overview of the idea. I believe there are about 20 of these labs now.

    One of the issues we found with solar panels and the battery banks was the misuse of electricity perceived as "free". Charging mobile phones using high-end solar panel batteries was an issue, especially when our networking equipment was unplugged to allow for more charging devices.

  10. Lovely examples those... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Internet access helps alleviate poverty in the same way that cell phones: by removing intermediaries and giving farmers access to up-to-date pricing information and buyers.

    This is what that "internet access" (which was actually a broker and micro-loan program) did:
    http://www.idrc.ca/en/ev-122219-201-1-DO_TOPIC.html
    http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/5877.html

    The epilogue to this project is not good. One year after the follow-up data were
    collected, the exporter refused to continue buying the crops from DrumNet farmers since
    none of the SHGs had obtained EurepGap certification. DrumNet lost money on its loan
    to the farmers and collapsed, but equally importantly farmers were forced to sell to
    middlemen, sometimes leaving a harvest to rot. As reported to us by DrumNet, the
    farmers were outraged but powerless, and subsequently returned to growing what they
    had been growing before (e.g., local crops such as maize).

    As for the "cell phones" link, you don't have to go farther than the article itself:

    Most of these unconnected masses live in rural areas that are much poorer and more remote than Muruguru.
    Now cell-phone makers and service providers understand that they can make money by bringing cell-phone service within reach of people who live on $2 a day.
    Users buy new phones for as little as $20--and secondhand models for far less--as well as airtime in increments of just 75 cents in Kenya, enough for nearly 10 minutes of off-peak calling.
    .
    They increased their profits by an average of 8% after they began using mobile phones to find out which coastal marketplaces were offering the best prices for sardines. Yet consumer prices for fish dropped 4% because the fishermen no longer had to throw away the catch they couldn't sell when they sailed into a port after all the buyers had left.
    "That's what economic efficiencies are about--everyone is better off," says Jensen.

    It is simply wonderful seeing such selective blindness.

    A mobile phone costs as little as 1000% of your daily costs.
    10 minutes (charged by a minute, so that is less than 10 calls) of mobile-credit costs you 37.5% of your daily costs.
    And to even that out, your income has increased by 8%.

    So, on average, that one 10-minute charge eats up that 8% increase in profit five out of seven days a weak.
    But all is not so dark and dreary - if they work 7 days a weak, they will earn 0.32$ of extra profit each weak.
    That way, they get to pay off that 20$ phone of theirs in only 1.2 years. Not accounting for interests.

    After that - the sky is the limit!

     
    Sure. For some people in developing nations mobile phones are providing A phone for the first time.
    For some even a way of long distance communication of any kind for the first time.
    And there are bound to be benefits from that as well as some measurable increases of quality of life.

    But attaching the "it alleviates poverty" label on the mobile phone is way off the target.
    Only people whose poverty is alleviated are mobile-phone merchants and local telecommunication companies (that practice the best kinds of monopolies - uncontrolled and rampant).
    For a "regular Joe" they are more of a resource drain than a "poverty alleviation".

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    1. Re:Lovely examples those... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Notice that the problem in the first article had nothing to do with internet access, but with a certification process attached to their new crop.

      Furthermore, what you fail to understand in your analysis of cell phone usage is that it takes only one person in the village to make one call to figure out what to do. The way it actually works is that someone who already has some money buys a used phone, and then resells phone calls to an entire village, or entire area. The costs are indeed spread out among many people, which makes the system work - as demonstrated by profits going up, not just revenue.

      Seriously, if you want to critique something, at least know the systems in place. Not to mention that it is a straw man of epic proportions to argue that because neither technology was a silver bullet, it should never be used by anyone.

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  11. #1 Create Some Wealth, #2 Improve People's Lives by thaig · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are a lot of people to cure or help and no money to cure them with. Hence it's much more important to invest in wealth creation than charity.

    I've seen your proposed way of doing things and it didn't work well for us:

    A Zimbabwean.

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