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First Pandora Console Reaches Customer

neogramps writes "It's been a long time coming, but the first Pandora consoles are finally rolling off of the production line. (Well, this one actually walked out the door to a customer who lived near the 'factory.') Initial estimates had put production and development at taking two months, but Murphy had other ideas. Banking issues, design problems, problems communicating with the Chinese moulding company, escalating assembly costs, and even a volcano all managed to get in the way, but the small and dedicated team soldiered on, and just over a year and a half later, the wait is coming to an end for the 4,000 pre-orderers."

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  1. Soldiered? by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shouldn't that be "soldered"?-)

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    1. Re:Soldiered? by nacturation · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't know about that, but the summary should read "Murphy goes down on Pandora's box".

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  2. Already seems obsolete.... by ZosX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    2 years ago these specs would have been exciting, but with smartphones already pushing over 1ghz and 512mb ram, I don't see the appeal. Pandora seems destined to be an emulator lover's delight and not much more. Sure you can run android on it, but it only has a 600mhz processor and 256mb ram. The same specs as a motorola droid. I guess $300 is an ok price to play every console game before the playstation, but my laptop does that and has a nice big screen too. 2 years ago I would have drooled at this machine (and I did), but anymore it seems like it will be so radically obsolete in a short period of time. My phone is already portable internet enough for me. If anything, I'd much rather have a nice 8-10" tablet that I can share my phone's 3g connection with. Once the tablets start getting near the $300 price point, I think things will get pretty interesting. I guess you could say that the pandora is like the ultimate portable console, but only if you don't want to play any newer games.

    1. Re:Already seems obsolete.... by Drethon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Specs may not longer be the best but personally I want the full keyboard and analog controls. Perhaps if this version is successful the package can be upgraded to something more cutting edge with less delays.

    2. Re:Already seems obsolete.... by ThoughtMonster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Are you implying that our needs have changed so much during these two years?

      I'm pretty sure that the Pandora is still the most powerful portable game console out there. The battery is a dog (10+ hours of gaming), the controls are said to be more than solid, and the platform (ARM Cortex-A8) is far from obsolete.

    3. Re:Already seems obsolete.... by BikeHelmet · · Score: 5, Informative

      My PSP does that & plays all my old PSX games. I got it for $100 used.

      But can your PSP play N64 games? Can it browse the web, or use 3G sticks? Nope?

      Will it have tons of homebrew games? (you might think so, but gp32x's community pumps out way more homebrew stuff than the PSP community does. Source: The devs coming over from the PSP community)

      Does your PSP have awesome controls, a great screen, a 14 hour battery life? Nope?

      Does it run hackable linux, with off-the-shelf compatibility with your favourite tools? Nope?

      There's many features that make a Pandora desirable. If you want enough of them, its value shoots up far above other handhelds.

    4. Re:Already seems obsolete.... by BikeHelmet · · Score: 3, Informative

      But can your PSP play N64 games?

      Uh, yes? I'm sure it's slow, but there you go.
      http://sourceforge.net/projects/daedalus-n64/ [sourceforge.net]

      ...

      This doesn't even deserve a response. I'm talking about a playable framerate. Not 5fps.

      Yes again, PSP have been able to get online via WiFi from day one.

      Browsing the web wouldn't be fun with such a horribly low resolution.

      or use 3G sticks

      Don't you already own a cell phone?

      How is this a response? Most cellphones can't tether, so how does that help?

      Does your PSP have awesome controls

      I don't think they are too bad.

      Then you've never tried a Pandora.

      a great screen

      4.3" is the same size as the Pandora, albeit @ 1/2 rez.

      PSP screens used to have HORRIBLE ghosting, and an awful colour gamut. It's still bad, and the resolution is low, but it is better than before.

      You can't argue this one. The Pandora's screen is far superior to the PSP's, in every way. (including power consumption, excluding price)

      No, but it does have a 10 hour battery life. And the batteries are cheap.
      http://www.circuitcentral.com.au/sony-psp-high-capacity-battery-3650mah-aftermarket.html [circuitcentral.com.au]

      Pandora batteries cost half as much. Mine was $19.99 shipped, 4250mah.

      These batteries get 14-16 hours in real-world tests with WiFi off - so it's not like a netbook where "14 hours" actually only gives 6 if you're running the CPU 100%. This is an actual 14-16 hours. I assume those batteries you linked do indeed give the PSP 10 hours of actual play time?... if you don't mind paying twice as much, each.

      Does it run hackable linux, with off-the-shelf compatibility with your favourite tools?

      Uh, yes again.

      That would be a "No". Thanks for the link though.

      Let me make this clear - the Pandora will almost be suitable as a desktop replacement. (form factor ignored) At launch it'll run software like OpenOffice, Firefox, Chromium, etc. - you could load it up with pen testing tools, use VNC/SSH... basically, you've got a fully featured desktop environment preinstalled on it, ready for linux apps to be loaded.

      If you want enough of them, its value shoots up far above other handhelds.

      Yes & right now there is a $200 difference. No where near enough value for the cost compared to a cracked PSP Slim if all you want to do with it is play games.

      If all you want to do is play $50 commercial games, buy a PSP or NDS or some other big-name console and play it. This is a device for developers first, users second. Not the other way around.

      I think you've just proven you're a user.

    5. Re:Already seems obsolete.... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The netbook also doesn't fit in my pocket, weighs much more and doesn't have built-in gaming controls. In other terms it doesn't occupy the same niche as the Pandora. (And, by the way, the Pandora also does Bluettoth.))

      The Pandora serves three niches:
      - Emulator and handheld homebrew lovers
      - People who want a UMPC with a physical keyboard
      - People who want a very small HTPC and are content with S-Video (yes, some of those have popped up in the forums)

      Yes, these days netbooks offer more bang for the buck specs-wise but then again so did desktops even when the team started. It's obvious that desktops serve a different niche than notebooks and netbooks. However, so does the Pandora.

      Remember, this is explicitly a niche device. The first batch was originally planned to encompass a grand total of 3,000 units, later expanded to 4,000. There will be a second batch but nobody knows if there will ever be more than 10,000 units in total. There is no intention to directly compete against Nintendo, Sony and netbook manufacturers. The main competition consists of the Gamepark Wiz and the Dingoo A320 (for the homebrew lovers) or is mostly nonexistent (for the UMPC lovers).

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  3. Poor pandorapress... by TrevorB · · Score: 4, Informative

    Looks like Gruso's blog got slashdotted pretty quickly.

    Here's some more links to keep people occupied:

    Official Site: http://www.open-pandora.org/
    Wikipedia Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console)
    Pandora forums on GP32X: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/forum/61-pandora/
    Craig Rothwell's Twitter feed (all kids of pics there): http://twitter.com/craigix

  4. Pandora? by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't open the box!

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  5. Re:That's nice... by TrevorB · · Score: 3, Informative

    "but where are the games?"

    http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/pandora.cgi

    It's an "open source" handheld with an eager development community, and games and other apps will come quickly once the hardware is released to the wild. By the time the pre-orders are complete and anyone not in the queue will be able to purchase one (and that will take a few months at this rate), there will be dozens of games available. Give it some time.

  6. Re:Seems underwhelming. by TrevorB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "fitting in a pocket comfortably. Just add a game controller..."

    I don't mean to sound too sarcastic, but if you have a link for a game controller that fits comfortably in a pocket, I'd like to see it.

  7. Insightful? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, it is a far better game platform, except for the controls but who needs controls to play a game?

    Talk about not getting the point. This ain't about CPU power, it is about having all those controls available on the hardware.

    What next, an article on a sports car being slammed because a jet fighter is far faster so race that instead?

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  8. Re:Seems underwhelming. by migla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > the market will be a final arbiter of this beastie...

    Market schmarket. This is the most powerful handheld gaming device out there, running linux, developed by and for an enthusiast community. As far as I'm concerned it is allready a success.

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  9. Re:Riiiiight...... by KDR_11k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is the lack of a unifying vision. With an original project you need a project leader who can decide on the design but when the workers don't like the design dictated by the leader they leave (in a company they keep working because they're paid to work on things that may not strike their fancy). If you let everybody have a say you get design by committee or just a katamari of incompatible ideas. Deriving from an existing game, whether by making a clone or an opened codebase, at least gives a specific vision that any developer joining the project can see right away and most likely enjoys. I've seen a project where the gameplay was handled opensource style, the result is an ever-morphing mess that gains and sheds features as the participants see shiny objects and that got dominated by a derivative work that was rudimentarily maintained by one dude who followed the vision of the work it was derived from. Meanwhile players complained that the well-maintained project changed too much and was a different game every week.

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  10. dangit slashdot. by atomicthumbs · · Score: 3, Informative

    I fixed my blog, kinda. Thanks for breaking it :P

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