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Stem Cell Patent Halts Hospital's Collection

eldavojohn writes "It's a classic case that comes up when dealing with patents. A hospital's research on the donated brains of deceased children has been in limbo for three years because of a challenge from a patent holder. The double-edged sword of patents that spurred investment into the field will also cause chilling effects on research like the case of the Children's Hospital of Orange County. They've now been forced to shift the money from the lab to lawyers in order to deal with this ongoing patent dispute over a technique that was developed to extract stem cells at the Salk Institute. Unfortunately the Salk Institute failed to patent the technology, so a company named StemCells happily had it approved. The real disheartening news is that CHOC's Dr. Philip H. Schwartz — the doctor collecting the cells — was one of the original researchers who helped developed this technique at the Salk Institute. Now he can't even use the technique he helped create. Schwartz has since been instructed not to publicly discuss the case further. Research interests are clashing with commercial interests in a classic case that causes one to wonder if patents surrounding medical techniques like this stretch too far. As for the people that donated their dead child's brain to research, those valuable stem cell cultures have been kept in storage instead of being disseminated to research labs (which desperately need them) across the country."

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  1. How patently stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A group that didn't invent it shouldn't even be able to patent it. Fuck you, "StemCells", fuck you to the grave.

    1. Re:How patently stupid. by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Knowingly leaving out the real inventors will get them more than just a slap on the wrist...

      Yes, but only after years of legal battles. They'll need the first court to overturn the patent before they would be able to go back after them for damages. That's the problem here... Patents are being blindly issued, only looking to see if it was patented before. Then, it's up to the courts to determine the validity of the patent... That's horrible for the little guy, who chances are doesn't have the money to pay for the legal fees. So the only people the current patent system helps, are the big companies and the courts.

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    2. Re:How patently stupid. by Manos_Of_Fate · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It does, however, apply to the GP's suggestion that this sort of thing should not be patentable by anyone, even the creator, because it could still be abused to prevent medical innovations.

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  2. Prior art? by Kronon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How can StemCells be granted a patent for this technique? It would seem that Salk Institute can prove that it is prior art (i.e. that they utilized this technique prior to any patent claims by StemCells), invalidating the patent claim by StemCells.

  3. Re:prior art? by Virtucon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    dissolve as in eventually have a judge rule that the patent isn't valid? As the article points out, CHOC now has to go to court to get that handled. While the patent may
    be invalid because of prior art it still takes courts and lawyers and dockets and paper to make this situation "right." What I don't understand is that if there's no
    profit motive on the part of CHOC, they're doing research, why they're being prohibited from using the technique anyway? I guess it's like patenting a shovel, if anybody digs
    a hole can the patent holder prohibit you from having a swimming pool?

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  4. Re:prior art? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do you assume there has to be a profit motive in order to run amok of patents?

  5. ah, thank goodness by nimbius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So to date this life-giving science has been encumbered by christian fundamentalists and unsavory patent trolls. If my america pedals itself any faster into the dark ages, ill have to resort to public flagellation as a response to the upcoming hurricane season.

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  6. Re:Prior art? by gorzek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They still have to go to court to get it invalidated, though.

  7. Re:The value of defensive patents. by MojoRilla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The solution to over-patenting isn't more patents. That would just be shoveling more money to lawyers and away from doing research or curing people. The solutions here seem to be to either allow nonprofits and universities to use patents for basic research, or to shorten patent lengths. A 20 year patent seems ridiculous when product lifecycles and discoveries are moving much more quickly.

  8. Re:Publish Owners Names by Enleth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A guy with a Barret M107, a handful of .50 BMG bullets with "for this patent bullshit" engraved on them and an escape helicopter would help, too.

    Every time I read about scumbags like this, I'm more and more convinced that this is indeed the only way.

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  9. Re:The value of defensive patents. by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How nice that they're allowed to spend ten to twenty thousand dollars applying for a patent that they don't intend to use. All in an effort to prevent what is basically being blackmailed by a company that has not only stolen your ideas from you, but also from everyone else who would do work in the field. What a wonderful, effective system we have.

  10. Re:Medical Patents by Volante3192 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Double edged sword. It can take decades of time and millions upon millions to spit out one thing useful. Patents give return on investment.

    I'd love research done for research's sake too, but pragmatism has this nasty habit of beating the snot out of idealism.

    However...
    Besides, if you didn't invent it, screw off.
    Damn right. StemCells needs to be staplegunned to the wall for this crap...as well as the Patent Office being held liable too, since someone didn't do their prior art research.

  11. Patent, Publish or Keep a Secret by Artagel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When someone develops a technology, their choices are generally to patent it themselves, publish it to give it to the public, or keep the development a secret. If a company indeed developed the technology independently, and there was no making the knowledge public, then the secret-keeper can have a problem. The patent system encourages developments to be made public, but with benefits for doing so. One of the detriments is that if you keep a secret, you may find someone else decides to patent it. Then you are can be an infringer. This is a rarer instance. Most often in the not-for-profit world, people choose to publish. In fact, early publication is the biggest threat to universities getting patents on professors' developments.

  12. Re:Prior art? by Kronon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see any proof of that in the article. The article implies that it was lack of initiative by Salk Institute that allowed StemCells to secure a patent on the technique: "The dispute comes down to access to a technique that Schwartz helped develop at the Salk Institute but the institute failed to patent. StemCells did." Can you provide a citation that gives a detailed chronology? In any case, Weissman comes off as a huge hypocrite by freezing out a research group with no commercial interests --- i.e., on the one hand he'll advocate for freedom to carry out this research, while simultaneously stymieing basic, non-commercial research with the other. This is what really bothers me about patents: They can enable commercial interests to erect a fence and keep out any public research in a potentially large area of science. Commercial interests can often secure funds to pay for licensing the patents. This usually is not in the budget for publicly funded research groups. (My preview shows this appearing as a wall of text, even though I have included white space.)

  13. Re:here you go by kurokame · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The point of patents is that if you come up with something cool, the patent protects your ability to make a living off of having done so both through marketing it yourself and through licensing it to others.

    It doesn't often work that way in practice. Patents are used to prevent competition instead of encouraging it, and licensing fees are used to determine who can and who cannot practically work with the technology. It's yet another case where the basic idea was sound but the implementation is lacking. A major issue has been that the scientific and corporate landscape has changed significantly over time, while the patent system has not adapted adequately.