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Decency Group Says "$#*!" Is Indecent
The Parents Television Council says the "$#*!" in the title of the upcoming CBS show $#*! my dad says is indecent. From the article: "'CBS intentionally chose to insert an expletive into the actual name of a show, and, despite its claim that the word will be bleeped, it is just CBS's latest demonstration of its contempt for families and the public,' declared PTC President Tim Winter. 'There are an infinite number of alternatives that CBS could have chosen, but its desire to shock and offend is crystal clear in this decision.'" By this logic Qbert was the filthiest game ever made.
Fuck the fucking fuckers!
no matter what you do some bed-wetting crybaby is going to bitch about it, so just ignore them and continue with what you want to do.
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
CSI shows chest cavaties that have been ripped open. Law and Order discussed horrible sex crimes. But heaven forbid you say a naughty word!
Didn't South Park already cover this?
Living With a Nerd
Kids should never be exposed to the symbols $#*!. They should have &^@%ed those symbols out.
Are these people so repressed that even the suggestion of a "naughty word" is enough to get them complaining ?
Have they really got nothing better to do with their time ?
I thought the Puritan movement died out in the 17th century, obviously I was wrong.
How have they missed the fact that "Shit My Dad Says" is the title of the source material? Complaining that CBS chose to "insert" the word into the title makes them look like the people who were horrified that New Line Cinema decided to use an obvious 9/11 reference in the sequel to "Fellowship of the Ring"..."The Two Towers."
(All that said, I could have sworn I read somewhere that CBS had retitled the TV show as "Stuff My Dad Says," but I guess I misremembered.)
Not that I agree, but I understand where they are coming from.
If the 'F' word is banned in your school and the kids all of a sudden decide to say the word 'Squash' in lieu of the naughty word, eventually they become synonymous. Saying "Squash you, Mr. Teacher" is still potentially going to get you in trouble if the teacher knows what "Squash" means in that context.
So, the question really is, is the putting together of the letters F-U-C-K naughty, or the meaning and/or implied meaning of the word the naughty bit?
If it's the latter, then _any_ substitution of the word still implies the word and carries the negative connotation along with it.
Again, I don't agree with it and frankly, I think all words should be allowed. It's all part of the language and any negative feelings you have to a word are _your_ problem.
Yeah cause you never hear people say "shit" or much worse in about any situation I have ever been in during my life. I heard it at my Catholic primary school. This is what happens when "Christians*" live in little gated communities and become completely out of touch with reality and the wider community.
* I am a Christian. Most of the people that whine about this stuff aren't really Christians. They just believe in ritual and "decency", they seem to miss that Jesus was mocking this kind of Pharisaical behaviour. Well actually they generally miss most of what Jesus said or at least fail to apply it.
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CINC, 4th Penguin Legion
Fine, then remove $#*! and put back the word "Shit". If they're going to be offended anyway, might as well make it count.
bah.
And all you do is complain about it on Slashdot, which is why your opinion goes unheard.
Meanwhile, they get out their letter writing campaigns, their phone calls to senators, whatever it takes. Which is why they end getting listened to.
Frankly, I don't think the people at the FCC really care. If it were up to them alone, we would have swearing and nudity all over TV by now. But there are people who really do care, and they make a concerted effort to have their opinion heard. That is why they are listened to.
And really, that's kind of how it should be. If a small group of people really really cares about something, and the rest of us don't care too much, it's basic social wisdom to compromise in favor of the people who really do care. That's true in all human relationships, not just at the national level.
Qxe4
What do the decency groups know about indecency?
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Are these decent? I'm sorry, you can't wash out the filth out of my brain ... you can try, but I see the a-style logo and I see what I see, because of the filth in *my* brain.
If you see the same ... well *giggle*
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
I block channels with religious programming, because I don't care to see it. If you are too sensitive to allow yourself to be exposed to implied vulgarity, feel free to block the channels that offend your delicate sensibilities.
Here's the gaff; YOU AREN'T CBS's CUSTOMER. Advertisers are. CBS is quite expert at attracting viewers. If you don't like their content, by all means DON'T WATCH IT.
This really isn't a difficult concept.
-Peter
I do not think that adults who still talk to invisible friends have any right to make decisions for the rest of us.
You're part of the problem, you know. You've now set expectations such that "boys will be boys" and that the girls should just expect boys to behave like gutter trash and learn to live with it.
If you held "boys" to as high a standard for their behaviors as you seem to set for "girls" then you might be working to get the world to this neo-Victorian attitude that you seem to want to live with.
Personally, I think the Victorians were a bunch of overly-repressed fuckers whose hypocrisy is almost unmatched in the history of the world, and I'd hate to see us revert back to it. Even the hypocrisy of 1950's USA is tame in comparison. I actually think we're better off as a culture if we're more open about shit. When you liberally sprinkle your fucking vocabulary with shit that other people think is taboo, eventually the words lose all their goddamn power to shock and offend and they become nothing more than motherfucking words - which is what they should be. The word "shit" as in the title of the show "Shit my Dad Says" is a word that means nothing more than fecal matter unless you've got a goddamn stick rammed so far up your ass it makes you walk funny.
But whatever - it's a free country. If you want to fight for neo-Victorian attitudes I say fucking go for it. Balls out, as they say.
What, girls can never be devious or sexually adventurous without the prodding of a boy? Are you living in 1955?
-molo
Using your sig line to advertise for friends is lame.
Please, give the puritan crap a rest. Women are just as filthy as men, perhaps more so.
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
You know, you're an asshole. I don't think I've ever started a post on Slashdot that way, and I really don't go in for name-calling, but you get the prize for driving me to it. You seem to have issues with males (I can't tell from your name whether you are one or not, but it's irrelevant), and you should be working through that yourself, not poisoning children's minds to share in your gender issues. No, BOYS will not drag girls into the gutter, some will, some won't. Just as some girls will be manipulative little monsters, and others won't. Shame on you for actively trying to damage these girls' outlook with regards to the other half of the population.
Great, another do-gooder who isn't affected by something, but feels compelled to "protect" everyone else. You appear to have mastered the use of the "off button" on your television, so instead of cheering for censorship, why not just help some other easily offended prats find it too, and quit telling others what they can and can't see on TV.
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
I have a very close female friend who's out of sorts because she's always been told that her being sexually adventurous is bad, and that she shouldn't like sex. It tears her up inside, and she feels that she needs to hide that side of her from her friends and family. She feels that since she likes sex, she should feel like a whore.
It's assholes like you that did that to her. She's broken inside, and hell if I know if it's fixable.
Fuck society.
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
Just call the show "2 Girls 1 Cup". No one could say that name is indecent.
Where the person is wrong is that sex somehow deserves to be in the gutter.
And yet, you are speaking of a relationship "degrading" to sex from the supposedly ideal "platonic". How is that cognitive dissonance working out lately?
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
That's a nice, clinical description, which in the real world falls apart pretty quickly. Plenty of guys go out, spend the night flirting and have no intention of actually trying to have sex with anyone, and I've seen plenty of girls at my local bar who are looking to get laid and leave with a different guy every weekend. Those girls aren't poor innocent waifs who have been taken advantage of, they're adults who choose to have sex when they want to. There's also nothing wrong with what they're doing. Women are just as grown-up and competent as men when it comes to sex, and are perfectly capable of deciding whether they want to sleep with someone or not.
No they are not correct. Is it okay make them aware that some guys will lie and do what it takes to get them into bed? Sure. Is it okay to teach them that guys only want one thing, and it's in their pants? No, it is not. That's how you create a girl with problems with self confidence, and trust issues.
I have plenty of friends who are women, and there's absolutely nothing sexual about our relationships. They don't have to play gatekeeper to my uncontrollable desires, and I don't have to worry about them innocently falling prey to my sneaky male charms. That's the real world for ya, we really are more than just a collection of base instincts.
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
Oh yeah?
Why is 'crap' not a bad word, then? Please explain the distinction between 'shit' and 'crap' for all of us. Likewise, the distinction between 'whiz', 'piss', and 'pee'.
And what the hell does toilet training have to do with anything? You're just trying to exclude 'childish' words like 'poop', but that's a rather idiotic slang distinction and doesn't have much to do with anything.
Likewise, the word 'sex', itself, is fairly new slang. The first recorded instance of it referring to intercourse is barely 80 years old, before that, it referred entirely to the distinction between male and female. It's from 'sexual intercourse', which actually meant 'intercourse with the parts of the body that differ between men and women'. Which poses some interesting etymological issues when speaking of 'gay sex', as that would be the opposite of sex, but whatever.
And yet nowadays we have judges talking about 'sex acts' and whatnot. (Which would technically mean 'acts that differ between the sex'.) Language changes. Slang changes to language, languages becomes outdated. Words become offensive, or acceptable.
And you really need to just accept that we just made up the damn distinctions. There seems to be a medical and legal exception, in that no matter what the word is, no one can actually complain if you're using those terms in that sense, but the rest of the distinction, the entire
Incidentally, bastard is a legal term. It's not used that often in the modern era because a) not a lot of law rely anymore on whether or not someone is born in wedlock (Inheritance law based on that actually was ruled unconstitutional in the US.), and b) it is gender specific. However, it is still a legal term, especially in places that do hereditary titles. (And note that's the least offensive term..the other term is, believe it or not, 'whoreson'.)
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?