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Amazon Kindle Fails First College Test

theodp writes "If Amazon hoped for honest feedback when it started testing the Kindle DX on college campuses last fall, writes Amy Martinez, it certainly got its wish. Students pulled no punches telling Amazon what they thought of its $489 e-reader. But if Amazon also hoped the Kindle DX would become the next iPhone or iPod on campuses, it failed its first test. At the University of Virginia, as many as 80% of MBA students who participated in Amazon's pilot program said they would not recommend the Kindle DX as a classroom study aid (though more than 90% liked it for pleasure reading). At Princeton and Reed, students complained they couldn't scribble notes in the margins, easily highlight passages, or fully appreciate color charts and graphics. 'The pilot programs are doing their job — getting us valuable feedback,' said Amazon spokesman Drew Herdener. Martinez notes that Reed, Seton Hall, and other colleges plan to test the iPad in the fall to see if it can do better."

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  1. Holy Cow by jlechem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The tried and true method of doing things that is known to work outdid the new shiny?

    Amazing......

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  2. The ownership issues would be more important by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that Amazon wants to be able to reach inside your kindle and remove things, even things you put notes in sort of destroys the value of the Kindle as an academic tool.

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    1. Re:The ownership issues would be more important by lymond01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Teacher: "We'll be using History of the Modern World, Third Edition. You can verify this by viewing page 212. If it states that Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania, then you have the Third Edition. Anything else is wrong and you should click "Update E-Book" at your earliest convenience."

  3. I can see it now... by Cornwallis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The greatest "advantage" to e-readers, or whatever the hell they are being called this week, is that publishers will be able speed up the scam of planned obsolescence in the college textbook scam/game.

    Now my kid buys a $300 "required" book only to be told it has NO resale value come next semester because it is the "old edition". With Kindle, et al, that planned obsolescence can take place FASTER.

    Now get off my lawn.

  4. Re:sony got this right by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the Sony Daily Edition perfectly fits the bill.

    It sounds like it would be great, if anybody but Sony made it. Sorry, but after they rooted my PC there's no way I'll buy anything with a Sony logo, ESPECIALLY computer gear. A company that would put rootkits on legitimately purchased music CDs would stoop to anything.

  5. Professors hate textbooks too by dward90 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Students aren't the only ones who find textbook prices monumentally absurd. Most of my professors no longer require a textbook. However, they are required by the University to specify a textbook, so every student who buys it before the first day of classes gets royally screwed.

    There also exist moronic profs who require you to buy the textbook, purchase a code for the online help, AND buy the study guide/homework guide, and then NEVER USE IT. I've found this in the English department more than once. These people need to be burned at the stake.

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  6. The iPodization of Print is Failing by salesgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone is trying to create their own iPod/iTunes like market for eBooks. It's a silly strategy that has little future because books and multimedia are very different technologies.

    * The killer application is actually publishing your book as a computer file instead of inked on dead trees, not creating a device that is only remarkable in that it is compatible with your DRM scheme.
    * Finding ways to sell your books to the largest market possible should be the goal.
    * The only thing that differentiates and the sizes of the walled garden markets is the number of devices that are compatible with their DRM schemes.
    * DRM is defective by design for most eBooks as it can be defeated a touch typist with some time on their hands. Music and movies actually require a much higher level of skill to crack.

    It's like everyone missed Apple's secret weapon with iPod: $1 songs and $2 TV Shows - and tons of free podcasts. Pricing on eBooks, aside the occasional sale at O'Reiley is nuts.

    In short, book publishers need to rethink the need for walled gardens. They add little value, given that portable devices that can read open formats have existed since the 1980s, and the current crop of slates and ePaper devices are not much different than a regular computer anyway.

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  7. Re:Odd choice by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hint: Not everyone cares about the politics of china, graphic designers or flash.

    In mechanical engineering my books were/are invaluable. There is yet an online resource (and I've searched) that has as much material laid out as well as it does. Equations for four bar linkages, friction disks, thermodynamics, heat and mass transfer, etc haven't changed much in the last decade (or longer).

    One HUGE regret I have is selling some of my books for pennies on the dollar. When referencing material that you spent a semester learning, nothing beats opening the exact book you used to help you remember.

    Heck when I had to retake a course because I transfered schools I kept my original text book and used it in the new class along side my new book.

    One thing that did irk me is that we did never use the full book, even in follow up courses.
    ME 352 would have Book A and we'd use chapters 1-10, but ME 452 would have Book B and we'd use 10-20. Even though they were the 'same material'.

    If I had the cash and was a professor I you could make a killing off of leasing books to students. Estimate that over the next 5 years you're going to have no more than 300 students / semester. Figure that 100 books will be stolen lost or damaged and you won't change from said book.

    So you buy 400 books at 100 each, you're out $40,000. Lease books to students for $20* a semester. After 5 years you'll have made $20k profit and still have usable books.

    My private elementary school had the some of the same books for close to 15 years. Each year you HAD to cover your books with grocery bags and take care of them. If a 3rd grader can take care of a Math book for an entire year, a college student can do it for a semester.

    *$100 with $80 refund. They're going to come out better than if they bought and sold from the book store. You're going to turn a huge profit.

  8. Re:Odd choice by apoc.famine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The kindle can search "page with multiline graph on the upper right, and weird diagram below it that has the equation I need"?

    I agree that the ability to search is killer. The downside is what the GP was trying to say - often you remember what a page looked like that had information you needed on it. It's far quicker to turn to the section of the textbook it's near and just flip through a dozen pages than it is to try to come up with a keyword which will be on that page, and no other pages.

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  9. Re:$498 way too high for a unitasker by walterbyrd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I dunno. $498 still seems insanely high. I can get a netbook for $199, or a really nice laptop for $450.

    http://www.techdealdigger.com/pr/cheap-acer-aspire-one-aod250-1151-101-inch-black-netbook-deals/3391

    http://www.dealhack.com/archives/2010/05/133_hp_pavilion_dm3_ultrathin.html

    In many ways netbooks and notebooks are superior for reading ebooks, especially ebooks in PDF format. Of course, netbooks and notebooks do far more than just read ebooks.

    BTW: the $99 readers use e-Paper, which seems like it might be e-Ink by another name.