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Why Windows 7 "Slate" Tablets Won't Happen

snydeq writes "InfoWorld's Galen Gruman questions the viability of Windows 7 on tablets in the wake of the news that HP will use Palm's WebOS as the foundation for iPad rivals, rather than follow through with the previously hyped Windows 7-based Slate. 'The iPad proved a tablet shouldn't be a portable computer that happened to have its screen always exposed. Even though technical components are shared between the Mac OS and the iPhone OS, the irrelevant Mac OS functions aren't gumming up the iPhone OS, and Apple's development environment doesn't let you pull through desktop approaches into your mobile applications. You're forced to go touch-native,' Gruman writes, adding that, when it comes to touch capabilities, Windows 7 leaves much to be desired. 'Sure, a few Windows 7 slate-style tablets will ship — Asus and MSI are said to have models shipping later this year. But those products will go nowhere, because Windows 7 is simply not the right operating system for a slate.'"

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  1. Thanks you... by Itninja · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...for linking to the 'print version' of the article. I wept a small tear of joy.

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  2. No current OS is "right for a slate" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hell, I'm having a hard time thinking of what would be right for a "slate". That Courier sure looked nice for what it was designed to do. As a general computing platform... nah

    OS designed to be used at a desk with a keyboard, mouse, and unlimited energy? Not so great on a small slate.

    OS designed for small handsets for quick and dirty access to stuff on the go? Easier to put on a slate, but still not something I'd want.

    Where is a slate with a "SlateOS"? Good for reading, good for watching, good for casual surfing/ computing. multitouch, high end pen input.

    1. Re:No current OS is "right for a slate" by nutshell42 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Hell, I'm having a hard time thinking of what would be right for a "slate". That Courier sure looked nice for what it was designed to do. As a general computing platform... nah

      Microsoft's the Xerox of our days. There's some great ideas coming out of Microsoft Research but the rest of the company's pathologically unable to see anything through to the end.

      Tablet PCs. Great idea, it failed because all the devices were half-assed notebooks with a touchscreen tucked on. It failed because MS went all the way to create the best handwriting recognition on the planet and then didn't make it usable in Office (with the exception of one specialized app). It failed because they really needed something like the Courier user interface but instead they built the back-end then scrapped it and instead they're just gonna copy Apple like usual.

      P.S.: Oh and they failed because Intel's been unable or unwilling to really improve the Atom in over two years. It's their Tick....Quack model of development. The Quack is them moving the GPU on the CPU die which is less about better performance or lower power and more about killing Nvidia without being quite so obvious about it.

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    2. Re:No current OS is "right for a slate" by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I concur. Microsoft already tried the tablet route with the MIDs not 3 years ago, and it sucked, because desktop OS's are too deeply invested in keyboards, mice, and power outlets. I bought a Samsung MID and it was a terrible user experience.

      I've thought for a long time now that stylus' are crutches that allow you to use the wrong kind of UI on a portable device. The iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad only serve to reinforce that belief.

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  3. Re:Mobile and Microsoft by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Their vulnerable blind spot is called WINDOWS.

    Everything in Windows was designed for mouse/keyboard combination, and there is no touch UI to behold.

    Apple's approach is much better, different products, different approaches, and a different UI for Desktop and touch based items.

    The reason why touch screens suck so much, is not because they suck, but the application/OS is always bolted on afterthought, rather than separate approach.

    This is why I see Apple and Android being the dominant players in these types of devices. And if HP can pull off a miracle and get Palm functioning, it might prove to be a viable third tier option.

    I'm afraid the people running Microsoft can't think outside of the whole "Windows" paradigm long enough to figure out that Windows is NOT a touch screen OS, no matter what they try to bolt on.

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  4. Re:Mobile and Microsoft by Lally+Singh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're working too hard for Windows lockin. If they would just let that go, and let all their smart people develop a *good OS* for *just* *mobile*, with no ball & chain to Windows, it'd be competitive.

    Sadly, I think that such an activity is against their DNA at this point.

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  5. Re:Mobile and Microsoft by willabr · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been using a Hp tablet PC, windows 7 and OneNote (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2010). This seems to be a very good solution for me, I can use all my desktop data, anotate with the pen, and when not using the One note touch/pen interface I can swivel the screen around and use like a laptop (keyboard etc). I travel around alot and need to gather a bunch of "freeform" data, I can take some pictures, embed them into my documets, write a few notes next to them, send them off to various mail accounts, download some data from the net, and when I get back to the Orfice, connect up to the network and share the whole works whith a few co-workers. I don't really listen to a lot of music or watch movies with it, (although I did spend a week out in boondocks of Wisconsin and the netflix account came in handy) I guess you get what you need and leave it at that, often I think that most of the hype is created to sell advertising copy. When all is said and done, you figure out what you need to do, and then get the best fit.

  6. Re:Mobile and Microsoft by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Their vulnerable blind spot is called WINDOWS.

    Sort of.

    Actually, Microsoft doesn't have a "vulnerable blind spot". What they have is an applications stack lever. They've never managed to reach into the mobile platforms because their whole business is built on application/data incompatibility with other platforms. The cost of moving from Microsoft is not the loss of Windows. It's the loss of the millions of Windows apps.

    That's wonderful for them when they "compete" in the Wintel market, but elsewhere, without the support of that weight of backwards compatible applications, their OS efforts are exposed as bland, clunky and unreliable.

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  7. Re:Does anyone praising the iPad actualy have one? by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For those of us running Linux or that choose not to install the bloatware that is iTunes on our PCs, yes...it is an arduous process. Simple documents such as music and pictures should have the capability to be dragged and dropped as if the iWhatever were just another removable drive.

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  8. Re:Mobile and Microsoft by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a little different - the ecosystem, yes - vertical integration is their game, but for your data they are opposed to lock-in.

    Office apps: documented, open XML format (making it very easy and supported to write converters if you don;t want to use the format itself).
    Audio: AAC
    Video: H.264
    Email: .mbox
    Calendars/contacts: vcard/icalendar

    They want you using Apple hardware and software, but they make it easy to move your data in and out of the ecosystem as you choose.