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The Hurt Locker Producers Sue First 5,000 File-Sharers

Voltage Pictures, the production company behind 2008's Oscar-winning Iraq war film The Hurt Locker, today sued 5,000 people who illegally downloaded the movie over BitTorrent. Quoting CNET: "Attorneys for Voltage wrote in the complaint that unless the court stops the people who pirate The Hurt Locker then Voltage will suffer 'great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money.' Voltage has asked the court to prevent those who downloaded the movie without paying for it from downloading its movies ever again, and order them to destroy all copies of The Hurt Locker from their computers and any other electronic devices they may have transferred the film to. As for monetary damages, the movie's producers want those found to have pilfered the movie to pay actual or statutory damages and cover the costs that went into filing the suits." According to the complaint (PDF), the 5,000 infringers are known only by their IP addresses at this time.

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  1. Not this again... by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We've been playing this game for over a decade now..

    Are there already good alternatives for bittorrents?

    The onion-based darknets seem to be empty because it hasn't been as necessary yet there hasn't been anything other then torrents it seems..?

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    1. Re:Not this again... by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's called netflix, they even send you a disc you can easily copy if you so desire.

    2. Re:Not this again... by u17 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Essentially, broke teenage kids want free stuff.

      That, too, but once these kids grow up, they are already accustomed to being able to get movies quickly, conveniently, and in a format that gives them full control over how they watch them and what they do with them. A large fraction of these kids will probably gladly pay a small price for each download in a similar service, but will stick to BitTorrent if you try to take their freedom, convenience and inexpensive cost away from them.

    3. Re:Not this again... by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Essentially, broke teenage kids want free stuff.

      That, too, but once these kids grow up, they are already accustomed to being able to get movies quickly, conveniently, and in a format that gives them full control over how they watch them and what they do with them. A large fraction of these kids will probably gladly pay a small price for each download in a similar service, but will stick to BitTorrent if you try to take their freedom, convenience and inexpensive cost away from them.

      I'm not sure I qualify as a broke teenage kid anymore since I've rounded 30 and make $100k+/year, but otherwise... discs are so 20th century, I tend to buy the movies I like and the shelf behind me is filling up with BluRays - but I don't watch them. Every movie on that shelf, except maybe some really, really old ones I've seen before I bought and even if I want to watch them again it's a double-click away. Might as well have been a paypal link for all I care and I'm not about to change my ways until there's a bluray-quality drm-free online store. Nothing that they have done or can do will stop the fact that bandwidth goes up, storage goes up, software gets better and every year one year's worth of the old generation dies and is replaced by the young generation. For all their little victories they shout about they lose ground every year.

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    4. Re:Not this again... by Knuckles · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Indeed. I decided to get a TV after all, and figured that the HDTV via IP package of the largest German ISP would be a good companion. This comes with a so-called online video rental shop which they currently advertise heavily, and I'd be fully willing to pay reasonable money for its supposed conveniences. Well, guess what, it sucks:

      • Rental prices are higher than in the brick & mortar store at the corner.
      • Just a few thousand titles, less than the brick & mortar.
      • All movies are dubbed in German, no other languages available, not even the original one. DVDs have offered this for how long now?
      • No obvious way to watch on laptop in bed, and impossible with Linux anyway.
      • User interface is clunky, slow, and annoying. All of this you can do better with IMDB and Piratebay.
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    5. Re:Not this again... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I skip the copying part, put a movie in my queue then download it from pirate by. I'm just cutting out the middle (mail) man and I have the right to watch the movie.

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  2. I haven't seen it yet... by chord.wav · · Score: 3, Interesting
  3. Re:alright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, I don't know what the alternative is.

    I just don't like the idea of the justice system being subverted in such a way that a corporation can sue someone anonymously, and I don't like the idea of a family being destroyed financially because their kid downloaded a movie, when otherwise shoplifting the movie would be a petty theft charge.

    I would rather see them out of business if this is the only way they can make money. I'm a model mpaa customer. I have over 200 bluray movies purchased, but they would still label me a criminal because I have taken (at considerable effort) the evil step of digitizing all my movies (ripped and encoded to my fileserver in mkv). I have a live copy, and a backup, and the physical copy sits in a closet. They have never been shared. If I lived in America, they would undoubtedly sue me if they discovered what I have done.

    Allowing me to rip movies harms their business plan of reselling the same movie every format change.

    Fuck them.

  4. Re:Sued by your IP... by Sabriel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Even if you were telling the truth, you'd still be put in the real hurt locker by the legal costs. Innocence in a court of law isn't free.

    Hell, I run a computer repair business. What's one of the first things these asshats would do? Confiscate every computer here, mine and my customers, to sit on a shelf somewhere until they get around to "examining" them. And in this rural area, my name would make the front page, "local business raided in connection with piracy!"

    Hello bankruptcy.

  5. Re:Wow.... by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The main problem is that even court costs can be enough to destroy somebody's life. The odds are if you're downloading you're probably not among the wealthy elite in the world. They're probably more like me, in their 20's and only a few missed paychecks from being homeless. I simply don't think that a few hundred megabytes is worth the real human misery that you would cause. Legally they are in the right, but that doesn't make it right.

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  6. Re:The first movie by Knuckles · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Who says? How many of the sued saw it in the theater and just wanted a copy on their HD? How many were, will be, or would have been paying customers of other movies of the same creators or studio?

    I, for one, spend a lot of money on CDs. And yes, sometimes I'll also illegally (depending on jurisdiction) download stuff, because there is an upper limit to what I can afford to spend, and there is much more fantastic music around. Nobody gets hurt by this, because I would not have spent any more money anyway, The only effect of not downloading would be that I wouldn't have listened to this music. And I've often bought CDs after a download if I liked the stuff. So yes, it would be wise to consider me a customer or potential customer even if I haven't paid for a particular mp3. Suing me would be a damn stupid business move.

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  7. Re:"Well it wasn't that good anyway" by twistofsin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Illegal or not, you have just explained why the studio is making a huge mistake with these lawsuits. This behavior is making their products unattractive.