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Part-Human, Part-Machine Transistor Devised

asukasoryu writes "Man and machine can now be linked more intimately than ever, according to a new article in the journal ACS Nano Letters. Scientists have embedded a nano-sized transistor inside a cell-like membrane and powered it using the cell's own fuel. To create the implanted circuit, the UC scientists combined a carbon nanotube transistor, lipid bilayer coating, ion pump, and ATP. The ion pump changes the electrical charge inside the cell, which then changes the electrical charge going through the transistor, which the scientists could measure and monitor."

77 comments

  1. Tag to add by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everyone add the tag, Cylons to this one. :-D

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    1. Re:Tag to add by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

      Everyone add the tag, Cylons to this one. :-D

      They said nothing about sexually-triggered bioluminescence.

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    2. Re:Tag to add by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2, Funny

      They said nothing about sexually-triggered bioluminescence.

      Well, if that came about the modern day Luddites will have a new war cry:

      Hell No, We Don't Glow!

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    3. Re:Tag to add by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Body Thetans?

    4. Re:Tag to add by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Everyone add the tag, Cylons to this one. :-D
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    5. Re:Tag to add by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 1

      His first one - the second one, he built, after he lost his hand. The one in the third movie is the one he built.

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    6. Re:Tag to add by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Cylons were just robots that inherited the name from their extinct alien creators.

      Oh, I see. You were referring to the FAKE Battlestar Galactica starring that Mexican dude. My bad.

    7. Re:Tag to add by beav007 · · Score: 1

      Hell No, We Don't Glow!

      Hell yes, your hair's a mess.

      If you don't read Bloom County, then you probably won't get it. That doesn't make it offtopic.

  2. You will be assimilated. by mcgrew · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    1. Re:You will be assimilated. by kdemetter · · Score: 1

      I love the double meaning of resistance in this case.

    2. Re:You will be assimilated. by Arancaytar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Resistance is voltage over current.

    3. Re:You will be assimilated. by Eudial · · Score: 1

      Ah, so it's super-conducting as well? Neat.

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    4. Re:You will be assimilated. by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Therefore futile = voltage / current

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    5. Re:You will be assimilated. by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny

      voltage = futile current

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    6. Re:You will be assimilated. by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      It is when you get close to zero kelvin.

      Whoever modded my original comment "offtopic" was NOT a nerd. Gees, never watched Star Trek or knows what a cyborg is? It's sad.

    7. Re:You will be assimilated. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      futile*current^2= power

  3. resitance is futile by Midnight's+Shadow · · Score: 1

    I can't help but think of the borg here but I will give them the fact that it is rather ingenues. Hopefully they can generate enough power to do something useful without starving the cell in the future.

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    1. Re:resitance is futile by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 1

      I'm sure the people actually doing this are fully aware of any issues that could possibly be thought of by a random internet user reading a short overview of the project.

    2. Re:resitance is futile by Kilrah_il · · Score: 1

      No, the average /. reader can pick up in 5 minutes problems in projects that are researched for years. Why else do we read the summeries? Wait till people around here will start to RTFA, then you will really see issues popping up!

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    3. Re:resitance is futile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...we read the summeries?

      You read the summary?

      You must be new around here.

  4. How is this human? by dward90 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So they put a transister inside a cell membrane. How exactly does that make it part human? Every living creature has cells that have phospholipid bilayers.

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    1. Re:How is this human? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So they put a transister inside a cell membrane. How exactly does that make it part human?

      It's powered by the cell, and not its own battery?

      Imagine having a wrist calculator that was more reliable than a solar calculator, but you have to eat a bit more.

    2. Re:How is this human? by gilleain · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So they put a transister inside a cell membrane. How exactly does that make it part human? Every living creature has cells that have phospholipid bilayers.

      More generally, it is not true to say that a lipid bilayer is even 'biological' in any meaningful sense. Ok, so the ion pump that they used is biological, since it was probably extracted from a cell. There have been designed (artificial) ion pumps, however, which could be used instead.

      Perhaps this is too pedantic, but this is really bio-mimetics rather than bio-chemistry... Anyway, where is Dr Baltar and his detector when we need him? Fracking toasters everywhere!

    3. Re:How is this human? by guppysap13 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or eat the same and let it burn excess energy...

    4. Re:How is this human? by AustinSlacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Obviously to sensationalize the article. How else to get people to read it? If they just said, “Biologically Powered Transistor Devised”, then people would be all ho hum about it. But if you invoke images of Terminator or Cylons, then people notice. As a matter of fact, nowhere in the article do any of the researchers say anything about this being human. They all refer to the cells in very generic terms. It could be any cells.

    5. Re:How is this human? by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd rather have one that just drew power from my vast stores of... well, let's just say I shouldn't eat more.

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    6. Re:How is this human? by schn · · Score: 1

      Imagine how much you could eat with ten calculators!

    7. Re:How is this human? by ajrs · · Score: 4, Funny

      Imagine a Beowulf cluster powered by slashdot users!

    8. Re:How is this human? by ewenix · · Score: 1

      You mean like sharks with frickin' lasers?!?!

    9. Re:How is this human? by cosm · · Score: 0

      In soviet russia, hot grits and Natalie Portman power naked and petrified slashdot user's controlling shark's with laserbeams (running linux) during their blackjack and hookers break hour. Robotic overlords manage the operation, placing CowboyNeal in charge of Ogging the Frosty Pissers into Goatse oblivion.

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    10. Re:How is this human? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WHOOSH

    11. Re:How is this human? by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 1

      Would you have been as quick to click if the headline had read "phospholipid wrapped transistor powered by ATP"? Would scattering "nano" have helped?

    12. Re:How is this human? by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The new diet craze. Nano computers running vista, just copy a file and watch those pounds melt away.

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    13. Re:How is this human? by Dishevel · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fuck low power CPU's. I want to lose weight!

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    14. Re:How is this human? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Then good luck with the fever denaturing your proteins at > 42C.
      I would like to have some cooling fins with that!
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      AQUAMAAAAN! He can speak with the fish, and compute 20 trillion operations per second!

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    15. Re:How is this human? by sjames · · Score: 1

      Because we're not all that interested in giving frogs a built in AM/FM radio?

  5. DEVISED? I can devise. You can devise. We can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can all devise. But only she can bop!

  6. next up the iBRAIN by chronoss2010 · · Score: 3, Funny

    completely useless device that makes the user buy other useless devices starting with the letter "i"

  7. New weight loss by DiademBedfordshire · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So will this be the next weight loss method? If I am powering electronics it must come from burning calories correct?

    1. Re:New weight loss by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

      So will this be the next weight loss method? If I am powering electronics it must come from burning calories correct?

      This is the anti-social transistor. It's powered by burning bridges.

    2. Re:New weight loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hell yes, next we need to mount an interface on my ass. I can plug this into the grid and sell power back to the electric company.

      No more watching what I eat. Instead I can eat what I want, as much as I want and enjoy every bite. Sports and other activities stop being a way to stay slim and become OPTIONAL.

    3. Re:New weight loss by vegiVamp · · Score: 4, Funny

      > mount an interface on my ass.

      Wide bus, I guess.

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    4. Re:New weight loss by MartinSchou · · Score: 1

      And apart from a thermal probe, it's an output bus only.

    5. Re:New weight loss by Dogbertius · · Score: 1

      Fat conversion to ATP through aerobic metabolism is generally slower than other forms of metabolism. It requires a steady supply of oxygen too, so your circulatory system will likely be overworked. Also, rapid breakdown of lipids in the body could lead to metabolic acidosis, decreasing the pH in your blood, and possibly leading to renal/kidney failure.

      So, I doubt fat loss via such a method would be very helpful, or safe.

    6. Re:New weight loss by renoX · · Score: 1

      >So will this be the next weight loss method? If I am powering electronics it must come from burning calories correct?

      Uh? What a stupid statement!
      They connected a transistor to *one* cell: you'd need to connect something to *many* cells before there would be any significant weightloss..

  8. Reverse Works Too by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

    Future devices could work just the opposite, where an outside electrical current could power the pump and alter how quickly ions are pumped into or out of a cell.

    That has potentially far reaching effects assuming they can eventually find a way to install these things throughout the body (or even better just on targeted cells). You could install one of these devices on each cancer cell, for example, and power a pump that forced chemo drugs into the cells. That means that cancer cells would receive a much higher dose than non-cancer cells meaning less side effects and/or more effective treatments. Of course, there's a million problems to be solved before such a treatment could become reality, but the possibilities are endless.

    1. Re:Reverse Works Too by ajrs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Future devices could work just the opposite, where an outside electrical current could power the pump and alter how quickly ions are pumped into or out of a cell.

      That has potentially far reaching effects assuming they can eventually find a way to install these things throughout the body (or even better just on targeted cells). You could install one of these devices on each cancer cell, for example, and power a pump that forced chemo drugs into the cells. That means that cancer cells would receive a much higher dose than non-cancer cells meaning less side effects and/or more effective treatments. Of course, there's a million problems to be solved before such a treatment could become reality, but the possibilities are endless.

      If you could install one of these devices in a cancer cell, it wouldn't need to pump it full of medicine. Water or would work just fine. Pop!

    2. Re:Reverse Works Too by vegiVamp · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you can find a way to install things on targeted cells, you can just deliver the actual chemo to the cells without this as intermediary.

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  9. "More intimately than ever"? by ettlz · · Score: 1

    Man and machine can now be linked more intimately than ever

    Er, well this is Slashdot... but still: I'd rather not, thank-you very much.

  10. Intimately? by adeft · · Score: 1

    "Man and machine can now be linked more intimately than ever" Interesting choice of words, have they never seen the picture that floated around the internet of the man in lingerie, um, "loving" his car's exhaust pipe?

  11. Really no? by AffidavitDonda · · Score: 1

    And give up the one chance in you live to become a robotic overlord? WIRE ME! WIRE ME!

    1. Re:Really no? by logjon · · Score: 0

      Woosh.

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  12. Stats and Tolerances by cosm · · Score: 1

    I wonder what kinds of numbers something like this could push. Tolerances? Forward / Reverse Bias, Beta values, Depletion region sizes, Breakdown voltages etc...Does anybody have a white-paper link or know if the data is published anywhere public? I am just curious as to how they go about verifying this constructs functionality as a transistor, be it giant simulators, or actual experimental observations.

    In the future we will have multimeters / scopes that probe the body's..erm..wait...nvm.

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  13. Yay! One step closer to Overmind! by abbynormal+brain · · Score: 4, Funny

    Overlord1: These brutish simple beings have finally yielded some light at the end of the tunnel.
    Overlord2: Yes, but it will still be a few centuries to perfect, sell, and drive adoption before we can flip the switch and merge them into Overmind.
    Overlord1: Ok - when can I see the Microsoft Project Plan?

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  14. Cross the streams by FreeUser · · Score: 1

    Imagine having a wrist calculator that was more reliable than a solar calculator, but you have to eat a bit more.

    Let's reverse the flow. Imagine going outside into the sun, and not needing to eat for a day.

    Of course, this turns the the whole weight-loss idea on its head. Sunbathing is the new binging: go to the beach paper-thin in your new bikini, and never leave because you've become too morbidly obese to move. Oops.

    On the plus side, it could be sold as a cure for world hunger. Bonus points for being green if it makes people sterile in the process (your kids are your biggest carbon footprint, so just say yes to contraception).

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    1. Re:Cross the streams by DarkIye · · Score: 1

      Fucking fat-ass plants.

  15. Not in Ohio you don't! by seyyah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OH Senate Passes Bill Banning Human-Anima... ah wait, this one's still legal in Ohio. Never mind.

    1. Re:Not in Ohio you don't! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who knows, maybe they will pass something that defines Cylons as a real race.

  16. I'm calling... by RenoGeek · · Score: 0

    ...DIBS!!!

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  17. Get the facts straight, please! by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to the actual article, there was no cell involved, only proteins resembling a cell wall. Nor was anything human mentioned.

    In short, the article describes how they rapped a protein layer around the nano-transistor and it worked. Then it speculated on what it might be able to do in the future.

    While powering a single transistor from the cell is interesting, a single transistor can only be on or off. Since, based on the data supplied in the article, there isn't a mechanism to trigger the on/off state, then it seems to be limited use.

    Of more interest is the mention of the research done at the Hebrew University where they accomplished the same thing but by using enzymes that the cell ignored. The reason this is more interesting is that enzymes may be able to be tailored to work with specific cell functions, versus just being powered by the the cell.

    1. Re:Get the facts straight, please! by Megahard · · Score: 1

      they rapped a protein layer

      I'm power'n' my ho
      With a transisto'
      It's in her ass
      She move it so fas'

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    2. Re:Get the facts straight, please! by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      Touché

    3. Re:Get the facts straight, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rofl

  18. Re:why did you post this? by dimethylxanthine · · Score: 1

    Well, certainly looks like the UC scientists aren't the only ones unable to comprehend basic social conventions.

  19. only a matter of time by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    Only a matter of time before we all have our own pc cpu installed inside ourselves and can interface and do a lot of work with our computers and the internet....need to check something up on google, use you interfaced keyboard that sends signals to your cpu, that is powered by your own thermal energy, then use your pc to hook up with the internet using a 3g chip implanted at the base of your neck, this will allow you to look up on google for all the p0rn you might need, and then send the signal back to your optical implant that allows you to visually see your pc screen inside your eyeball.....god i can't wait to see what p0rn will look like when that happens...will they still wear garder belts? what about stilletos?

    1. Re:only a matter of time by Muse011 · · Score: 1

      What should be more concerning is when Korea gets their hands on this kind of technology enabling them to control their military like Starcraft units.

  20. Ok, I'll bite, troll by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 1

    Yes, the one that didn't FUCKING SUCK BALLS like you do.

    GO TEAM EDWARD (JAMES OLMOS).

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    1. Re:Ok, I'll bite, troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. They really nailed the schoolgirl demographic that the original failed to capture.

      With a filthy ass pock marked meth skinned Mexican no less!

  21. The REAL test is by dogzdik · · Score: 0
    When the cell replicates, it's making the transistor replicate with the division. This is the REAL achievement. Everything else is just steps.

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    Beyond this - is artificial life - or the transference of consciousness within machines and processors.

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  22. I for one by kumma · · Score: 1

    I for one, welcome our new human based overlords.

  23. The original paper by doru · · Score: 1

    The paper appeared in the journal Nano Letters, not to be confused with ACS Nano (although both journals belong to the American Chemical Society). Link: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nl100499x

  24. Ohio bans intelligent design? by Riskable · · Score: 1

    First they try to ban the teaching of evolution and now they want to ban actual intelligent design? MAKE UP YOUR MINDS ALREADY!

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    1. Re:Ohio bans intelligent design? by Riskable · · Score: 1

      Doh! Wrong thread.

      It is 7 in the morning and I'm working on two laptops side-by-side. Each with copious amounts of tabs open. Probably not a good idea... Adding to my TODON'T list.

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