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Six More Tech Cults

snydeq writes "InfoWorld's Dan Tynan takes a humorous look at six 'sects' of fanatical tech loyalists. 'Fandom, devotion, obsession — certain technologies have a way of inspiring an extremely loyal following. So committed are these devotees, you might as well call them technology cults,' Tynan writes in this update to last year's list, which included fans of the Newton, Commodore, and Ruby on Rails, among other technologies. 'Sometimes these cults are inspired by elegant lines of code. Other times it's dedication to an ideal. Some are looking to transform the way software is made. Others hope to transform humanity itself. And some just want to argue about it all — endlessly and at great length.'"

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  1. Vi uber alles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The sinister emacs must be purged.

    1. Re:Vi uber alles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or: Order of the unfunny irrelevant /. post

  2. Biggest cults in tech by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve Jobs, Kevin Warwick, Nicholas Negroponte.

    Oh, sorry. Cults.

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    1. Re:Biggest cults in tech by metamatic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Once again Theo De Raadt fails to get the recognition he deserves.

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    2. Re:Biggest cults in tech by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cults involve not being able to leave the cabal. You need a different term for groups where you can't join.

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  3. Not to be taken seriously by MrHanky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple isn't #1.

    To be fair to the Jobsian cult, though, the most rabid extremists I've ever come across are old-skool SGI admins. Don't even try to suggest putting Linux on ancient SGI hardware; according to sacred lore, it will turn a venerable super computer into a PC. Then they'll send you an angry email as well, just to make sure the point gets across.

    1. Re:Not to be taken seriously by urusan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cults are small non-mainstream groups, so it is accurate. Apple is a religion.

      "A delusion held by one person is a mental illness, held by a few is a cult, held by many is a religion."

    2. Re:Not to be taken seriously by tpv · · Score: 2, Funny

      But with VI mode in EMACS, who needs VI?

      Anyone with less than 8GB of memory in their machine. :)

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  4. Cult of Math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "InfoWorld's Dan Tynan takes a humorous look at six 'sects' of fanatical tech loyalists.

    Tech cult No. 1: The Way of the Palm
    Tech cult No. 2: Brotherhood of the Ruby
    Tech cult No. 3: The Ubuntu tribe
    Tech cult No. 4: The Commodorians
    Tech cult No. 5: The Order of the Lisp
    Tech cult No. 6: Monks of the Midrange
    Tech cult No. 7: The Tao of Newton

    THERE....ARE.....SEVEN....SECTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Re:Cult of Math by biryokumaru · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you, but they don't actually issue the real geek cards to people who watch Voyager.

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  5. Ruby's younger, sleeker sibling? by Teckla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:

    "Programming language Ruby and its younger, sleeker sibling, Ruby on Rails..."

    LOL

    Such quality investigation and journalism!

  6. As well there should be! by MoriT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Every technology that became big started out enthusing its supporters. If we didn't become excessively enthused about technology we wouldn't be geeks.

    Seems to me the key is tolerance. We tolerate the currently-enthused, because we know we were once them and, Linux willing, will be again.

  7. Nonsense by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Computer fanatics don't have sects.

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    1. Re:Nonsense by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

      Computer fanatics don't have sects.

      That explains the article... "Tech cult No. 1: The Way of the Palm"

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  8. Re:Kinda old news isn't it? by emurphy42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The first link should go here or, for a printer-friendly version, here.

  9. Commodore 65 by Teckla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Another gem from the article:

    Sacred relic: Commodore C65

    Ah, yes, I fondly remember my C65...

    Wait, what?

    (Did they even bother to proofread their work? It has dozens of mistakes.

    1. Re:Commodore 65 by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Funny

      You are just jealous because you were stuck with the C64 while all the cool kids had a C65

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    2. Re:Commodore 65 by amaupin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Commodore 65

      (Did you even bother to read the article?)

      What seems silly to me is including C64 users as a cult and only jokingly mentioning Amiga advocates in an aside. Hard to believe any tech observer including the former instead of the latter. Diehard AmigaOS advocates much more deserve "cult" status.

    3. Re:Commodore 65 by Zedrick · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um...no. The C65 is not a sacred relic.

      Yes it is, please check comp.sys.cbm or any Commodore-forum before you try to sound as if you have any idea what you're talking about. There is nothing as sought after as a C65 among Commodore-collectors - not even the Commodore MAX. Last year I offered around US$2000 for one of them, but unfortunately the seller wanted more. Latest C65 on ebay (dec. 2009) went for around US$7800.

      It was never even released.

      Roughly 500 prototypes were sold after Commodores bankruptcy. There were even ads for them in Commodore magazines.

    4. Re:Commodore 65 by hazydave · · Score: 2, Informative

      Having worked both at Amiga and at ESCOM's Amiga Technologies spinoff, I do think that was the last real chance the Amiga had. They actually took their time to study the problem, enlisted me and Andy Finkel to run hardware and software development groups, respectively, and had the right idea about how many people and how much time this was going to take, the right place in the market for new Amigas, etc. No guarantees... as I said, it was a chance.

      I don't think any effort to resurrect the Amiga beyond that had a real chance. No one had the right expertise, the right target price point, or could even answer simple things like "how do we sell this new thing to people who've never heard of Amiga Computers".

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  10. Editor Link Failure by Obyron · · Score: 4, Informative

    No surprise, the editors put the wrong link in the article. All three links link to last year's article. Here is the new article.

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  11. Re:Three Worst Tech Cults by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Funny

    While I suspect you are just trying to hit as broadly as possible with your trolling (and trolling Windows could risk to actually dilute your troll), is there a desktop OS and mobile OS you prefer personally? Windows/Windows Mobile?

    Whatever he can best fit up his ass, I'm sure.

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  12. Slashdot not in the list... by Zarf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... I'm actually surprised Perl isn't in the article.

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  13. What did you expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A Spanish Inquisition?

    So fine, there are seven sects

    Tech cult No. 1: The Way of the Palm
    Tech cult No. 2: Brotherhood of the Ruby
    Tech cult No. 3: The Ubuntu tribe
    Tech cult No. 4: The Commodorians
    Tech cult No. 5: The Order of the Lisp
    Tech cult No. 6: Monks of the Midrange
    Tech cult No. 7: The Tao of Newton
    Tech cult No. 8: The Amiga Gurus

    1. Re:What did you expect? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It kind of irked me that the 'Commodorians' section droned on and on about the Commodore 64, whose enthusiasts are pretty much a group of modest hobbyists with a realistic view of the world, then only mentioned the real nutcase cultists, the Amiga cranks, at the end like an afterthought. Maybe it was viewed as too dangerous to bring up 'the A computer' prominently.

      (And probably an Amiga crank or two will respond to this comment, or have one of their friends tag it flamebait.)

  14. Re:Kinda old news isn't it? by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

    I noticed that too. Hardly counts as News for Nerds when it's a year old.

    Depends on the topic. Female anatomy is millions of years old, but it would still count as news for nerds.

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  15. Well they might have a point by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "t will turn a venerable super computer into a PC."

    SGI might not have had the best marketing but back in the day it had some of the best hardware designers and OS/driver writers in the world as far as graphics was concerned. What they didn't know at the time wasn't worth knowing. I'd be pretty amazed if Linux could get the same performance out of the hardware even if it used SGI written drivers.

  16. Never met a Perl fanatic by weston · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, I've met people who were enthusiastic about Perl, but just about all of 'em know There's More Than One Way To Do It applies to language choice, too.

  17. Re:Kinda old news isn't it? by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Informative

    From article: By Dan Tynan Created 2009-05-04

    I became suspicious when he predicted the resurgence of palm.

    That's why it's also a dupe: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/04/2039219 - note that it was posted on the same day.

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  18. Haskell... by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I cordially loathe Perl. it is a grotesque collection of shell tools held together with gaffer tape. However, I must admit it is one of only two of the many languages I have used where I learned it from a book from scratch and did a useful medium-sized job in the same day. Most languages are good for something. I have even found a job that Prolog was absolutely perfect for (I have never found a second example, but every dog has its day). And yet...

    Have you ever met Haskell programmers? I have met some really creepy ones. The language is not a tool, it is The Way. If you do something useful with it instead of Silently Contemplating Its Perfection In Bliss, then you will never achieve Enlightenment. Or your Computer Science degree. Woo...

  19. Why Ubuntu by 91degrees · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a pretty popular version of a pretty popular OS. Lots of people try it and most of the alleged cultists don't declare it the one true way. It's much closer to Buddhism than Scientology.

  20. Tech cult No. 1: The Way of the Palm by Target+Practice · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damn, they just threw every male computer geek into a cult. I personally don't see a prob - oh wait. Palm, as in the company from the 90's.

    *Ahem*

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  21. Re:Gentoo? by Target+Practice · · Score: 2, Funny

    What happened to all the Gentoo users?

    They're at home, compiling their kernels!

    (insert Danny Elfman's Batman theme here...)

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  22. Re:Commodore 65 (and 128) by toejam13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I’d actually argue that the Commodore 128, Commodore 65 and CBM-II series were all mediocre successors to the Commodore 8-bit line at best. I even suspect that had the Amiga not fallen into Commodore’s lap, they might have gone bankrupt because of it.

    The main problem with all three systems was their CPU. The MOS 8502 found in the C128 and CBM-II as well as the CSG 4510 in the C65 could only access 64KB of memory directly, so they all relied on bank switching to get around the limitation. Bank switching SUCKS. It is even worse than the 20-bit segmentation model found in the i8086/8088.

    Apple ended up using the WDC 65816, which included a limited set of op-codes that could handle 24-bit “long mode” addresses. But it was a bolt on feature at best, and was severely limited. A better option would have been if the MOS 8502 came with a new memory mode where all existing 16-bit ($xxxx) ops could have been extended to 24-bit ($xxxxxx) instead. A processor with a flat 24-bit memory mode would have been very easy to work with.

    All of the C128’s other major faults (graphics and audio) are all secondary. Sure, had they either adopted the MOS 7360’s 121-color Y/C palette or a 64-color RGB6 palette, it would have been great. Had they adopted stereo SID and/or added frequency modulation, it would have been great. But in the end, the processor would have crippled it. Just try programming for the C65 emulator under M.E.S.S. and see for yourself.