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Open Data and a Critical Citizenry

Last week we discussed news that the UK government had released a treasure trove of public spending data. Charles Arthur, the Guardian's technology editor, wrote at the time how crucial it was for citizens to find ways to examine and interpret the data; otherwise it would be useless. Now, an anonymous reader sends in a response from open data activist David Eaves, who takes it a step further. He writes, "We need a data-literate citizenry, not just a small elite of hackers and policy wonks. And the best way to cultivate that broad-based literacy is not to release in small or measured quantities, but to flood us with data. To provide thousands of niches that will interest people in learning, playing and working with open data. ... It is worth remembering: We didn’t build libraries for an already literate citizenry. We built libraries to help citizens become literate. Today we build open data portals not because we have a data or public policy literate citizenry, we build them so that citizens may become literate in data, visualization, coding and public policy."

50 comments

  1. All true, but by tuomoks · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    All true, but we didn't publish books in sanskrit or any other proprietary language! So, the information should be in open format, available for all, not just for some with a, usually very expensive, proprietary tool or toy!

    1. Re:All true, but by Looce · · Score: 4, Informative

      The COINS dataset, which is talked about in the summary, was recently published in CSV files (not proprietary), compressed with Zip (not proprietary) and distributed using HTTP (not proprietary) and BitTorrent (not proprietary) at the user's option.

    2. Re:All true, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, we publish books in any language we want. There is no mandate that all books must be published in a readable language.

    3. Re:All true, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you don't have rwx on Sanskrit it doesn't become proprietary.

  2. No, no you don't want that. by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We need a data-literate citizenry, not just a small elite [group] of hackers...

    You aren't going to get that, because what you're talking about is citizen-to-citizen education. Hackers do that already amongst themselves, and as a result they are constantly watched by the government and often viewed as a threat to the state. The government only wants people educated to a certain level -- that level being whatever is necessary so they can become a wage slave. Anything more than that, and you're abnormal, and therefore a threat.

    You'll never have a data-literate citizentry, because you'll never have a government that wants citizens to be capable of independent thought, critical thinking, and access to the facts and circumstances in realtime (or even a reasonable time) because that's a security risk. All that data being released without form or processing ability is not to help you, it's to overwhelmn you and divide you to the point where no criticism can be effectively leveraged against the government because it's simply too large, too entrenched, to make any form of protest useful.

    --
    #fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
    1. Re:No, no you don't want that. by Luke+has+no+name · · Score: 1

      We haven't gotten to get that yet, because what you're talking about is citizen-to-citizen education. Hackers do that already amongst themselves, and as a result they are constantly watched by the government and often viewed as a threat to the state. The government only wants people educated to a certain level -- that level being whatever is necessary so they can become a wage slave. Anything more than that, and you're abnormal, and therefore a threat.

      We don't yet have a data-literate citizentry, because we don't yet have a government that wants citizens to be capable of independent thought, critical thinking, and access to the facts and circumstances in realtime (or even a reasonable time) because that's a perceived security risk.

      All that data being released without form or processing ability is not to help you, it's to overwhelm you and divide you to the point where no criticism can be effectively leveraged against the government because it's simply too large, too entrenched, to make any form of protest useful. Therefore, we should make tools like the FA suggests that facilitate the understanding of our legal proceedings and the laws being passed in various countries.

      --FTFY

      We are in a world without precedent. While I share girlintrainings's skepticism and understand the point, I don't write off the capability of citizens to make the world and the government a better place.

      THE WEB IS 17 YEARS OLD. Give it time.

    2. Re:No, no you don't want that. by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      We are in a world without precedent. While I share girlintrainings's skepticism and understand the point, I don't write off the capability of citizens to make the world and the government a better place.

      THE WEB IS 17 YEARS OLD. Give it time.

      Her point exactly. Would you say that world governments as a whole are heading towards less or more restriction of the internet? Yeah, I thought so.

      And much of the censorship apparatus is being manufactured by...yep, you guessed it...Americans.

    3. Re:No, no you don't want that. by maxume · · Score: 1

      It really doesn't make any sense to claim to care about what happens to people when you have so little respect for them.

      --
      Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
    4. Re:No, no you don't want that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BEST TROLL... EVER!

    5. Re:No, no you don't want that. by dr2chase · · Score: 1

      No government conspiracy required. People like their ruts, and will pick and choose the data that supports their opinions, and come up with silly-ass reasons to ignore contrary data. Their "reasoning" (to use the word loosely) exists to help ward off the cognitive dissonance in their own head, not to convince anyone else.

      So, for example, in Massachusetts, school spending is measured exactly thus-and-so, by state law. And people who want to believe that a school system is wasting money, they will simply ignore it if that data says otherwise. Spend below the state median, below the state average, and someone who doesn't want to raise taxes, will complain that the superintendent is paid too much (90th percentile outcomes, 45th percentile spending, we don't pay him enough). If a group organizes to support an effort to raise taxes by $2 million, and raises $10,000 in campaign funds, people who oppose them will complain that (clearly) they should have donated that $10,000 to the town instead (because with only $1,990,000 more dollars, the funding gap would be closed).

      We're talking about an actual town, these are pretty much actual numbers. The reasoning is head-banglingly innumerate. (Be interesting to see if any of the partisans reads Slashdot.)

  3. Yeah... ok.... by werewolf1031 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Today we build open data portals not because we have a data or public policy literate citizenry, we build them so that citizens may become literate in data, visualization, coding and public policy.

    Good luck with that, because the painful truth is that the average pop-media-junky, marketing-spoon-fed citizen is resistant to learning as a general course. I've known so many people - adults, mind you - who honestly believe they simply can't learn new things, especially things of any sort of technical nature, be it computer-related, math-related, or what have you. It makes me sad, but there it is.

    1. Re:Yeah... ok.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Today we build open data portals not because we have a data or public policy literate citizenry, we build them so that citizens may become literate in data, visualization, coding and public policy.

      Good luck with that, because the painful truth is that the average pop-media-junky, marketing-spoon-fed citizen is resistant to learning as a general course. I've known so many people - adults, mind you - who honestly believe they simply can't learn new things, especially things of any sort of technical nature, be it computer-related, math-related, or what have you. It makes me sad, but there it is.

      and this is a reason to not distribute the data on a large scale to those who wish to access it? This is akin to someone saying that by and large, my slaves are ignorant and unwilling to learn, therefore they should not be taught to read or write. Your developed stereotype, which is still valid for use in a PERSONAL context, does not fit in the context of making a larger decision that effects entire countries.

    2. Re:Yeah... ok.... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      Don't even get me started.

      I have a friend who is so incredibly opposed to reading that it annoys him when I put subtitles on.

      I have another who is reconsidering his decision of going to university this fall because he doesn't think he'll be able to do Calculus, since he forgot most of his high school math. It's not like it'd be that bad to take a refresher course.

      I get people at work who ignore me when I try to show them how to take a screenshot and/or copy and paste an error message, because they believe it to be too complicated for them to figure out.

      Uneducated is understandable, and ignorance is annoying, but willful ignorance absolutely enrages me.

    3. Re:Yeah... ok.... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      and this is a reason to not distribute the data on a large scale to those who wish to access it? This is akin to someone saying that by and large, my slaves are ignorant and unwilling to learn, therefore they should not be taught to read or write.

      No, its more akin to someone saying that by and large, my slaves are ignorant and unwilling to learn, therefore I won't build them a library, because they won't use it.

    4. Re:Yeah... ok.... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      The people I know who hate subtitles don't hate them because of reading... there are two reasons that I've seen:

      1. If they understand the spoken language, it's distracting. Most of us see text, and the eye is drawn to it to read. This hampers immersion.
      2. If they don't understand it, they spend time reading the subtitle and less time watching what is actually going on. This hampers immersion.

      The commonality between both of these: It hampers immersion.

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    5. Re:Yeah... ok.... by tuomoks · · Score: 1

      Well, you got me started, maybe I have too much time now? And I don't want to get you feel more desperate - it doesn't help. And even I haven't given up yet finding people who really, really love the life and learning - it's just hard and frustrating sometimes.

      Now, half retired, in a foreign country with some(!) expats I can tell that opposing learning is not age depend! But so isn't learning - some over 80 (some way over!) know more and learn faster than some of my developers over years, and they were 1/3th that age! But these people seem to live long, have fun, don't worry, eat, dance, drink, etc as much as they like. Unlike some, yes we have those here, 20-30 years younger, just don't like to learn anything anymore - I gave up helping them, it's like stealing money from kids! Just wonder, did they ever learn / know anything but they had to - they made fortunes and now just wait the death, or drink themselves to death? Strange?

    6. Re:Yeah... ok.... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Well, to reply to myself after some though...

      I should mention the people I associate with brighter than average. I don't socialize with idiots, and I'm lucky to have an intelligent family.

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    7. Re:Yeah... ok.... by migla · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, more and more people are finding more information and affiliations all over the world.

      While the pop-media and marketing stranglehold on mainstream culture is depressing, the opposition is growing too. Looking at "pop-media" and "marketing-spoon-fed citizens", things are and have been getting worse for decades, but at the same time, they are getting better.

      I don't know if will take decades yet for critical thinking to reach critical mass, but I can't see the progress of humankind declining on the whole.

      Surely, all the triumphs of bullshit and other bad shit are just smaller swings of the pendulum on a general trajectory towards a more enlightened, better future. Or did I dream it?

      --
      Some of my favourite people are from th US; Vonnegut, Chomsky, Bill Hicks.
    8. Re:Yeah... ok.... by Lord+Grey · · Score: 1

      Good luck with that, because the painful truth is that the average pop-media-junky, marketing-spoon-fed citizen is resistant to learning as a general course. I've known so many people - adults, mind you - who honestly believe they simply can't learn new things, especially things of any sort of technical nature, be it computer-related, math-related, or what have you. It makes me sad, but there it is.

      What you say is, unfortunately, true in the general sense. The average person dislikes learning new stuff for a myriad of reasons. But this line from the summary:

      To provide thousands of niches that will interest people in learning, playing and working with open data.

      I don't think "people" meant all people or the average person. I think it really means, "more than the few who are doing it now." There's always a certain percentage of a population that likes poking around with virtually any topic you could name. If you expand that population, then more people will get involved. That could -- but not necessarily -- trigger even more people to get interested.

      That's my take on it, anyway. I think it's a good idea, and worth trying.

      --
      // Beyond Here Lie Dragons
    9. Re:Yeah... ok.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > 2. If they don't understand it, they spend time reading the subtitle and less time watching what is actually going on. This hampers immersion.

      I watched "The Go Master" (a biography of Go Seigen, nee Wu Chingyuan) recently. True, with the subtitles off I would have been more "immersed" in the emotion/drama/culture of pre-war Japan... but I wouldn't have been able to understand anything that people were saying.

      I suppose I could have picked up a lot of context from the character interactions, but it would have taken me quite a while to recognize people like Segoe or Iwamoto Kaoru. And I didn't know any details about his involvement with the woman Jikoson and her religious movement/cult at all prior to watching the movie, so I might not ever have figured that one out.

      I'm not sure how you can watch a drama (not a comedy, not a mindless action flick) in a language you don't know without subtitles. But I also don't understand people who have the TV on all the time and aren't watching it - maybe the two are related. When I'm watching a movie, it's because I want to watch the movie. When I'm not, the TV is off.

    10. Re:Yeah... ok.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Subtitles are frigging annoying. All they do is cause you to notice translation errors in them.

  4. Religion interprets the data. by elucido · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's impossible to ever have a data literate citizenship because data is interpreted by religion. It's interpreted by religion because people aren't naturally reasonable and don't do whats in their individual self interest.

    An example, if the sexual behavior of every human being in the USA were released what would be the response by the general public? If you want to predict the response look at the response to homosexuality.

    Another example, if nobody in the USA had any secret from anyone else what would be the result?

    If you are a jew are you comfortable with neo-nazi's having your medical records? If you are muslim are you comfortable with jews having access to your medical history? If you are anyone are you comfortable with everyone having access to every dumb thing you've said or done in your entire life?

    Sure they wont be as much blackmail going on, instead people will be getting killed for who they are and with unlimited information it's much easier to make the lists.

    1. Re:Religion interprets the data. by Antisyzygy · · Score: 1

      It's impossible to ever have a data literate citizenship because data is interpreted by religion. It's interpreted by religion because people aren't naturally reasonable and don't do whats in their individual self interest.

      An example, if the sexual behavior of every human being in the USA were released what would be the response by the general public? If you want to predict the response look at the response to homosexuality.

      Another example, if nobody in the USA had any secret from anyone else what would be the result?

      If you are a jew are you comfortable with neo-nazi's having your medical records? If you are muslim are you comfortable with jews having access to your medical history? If you are anyone are you comfortable with everyone having access to every dumb thing you've said or done in your entire life?

      Sure they wont be as much blackmail going on, instead people will be getting killed for who they are and with unlimited information it's much easier to make the lists.

      The sexual behavior of humans was released in the Kinsey books. It offended many people. Medical records are not suggested as an open source item, the data is too personal. You are taking it a bit too far, they are only suggesting making a massive amount of public data available. It would specifically identify your credit card purchases, just the fact that Y people spent X amount over Z time on A things.

      --
      That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
    2. Re:Religion interprets the data. by Antisyzygy · · Score: 1

      ... wouldnt^ specifically identify your credit card purchases ...

      --
      That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
    3. Re:Religion interprets the data. by turkeydance · · Score: 1

      what he said.

    4. Re:Religion interprets the data. by AnonymousClown · · Score: 1
      By making the data available, it allows for easy connections of said data.

      Connecting a bunch of innocuous sets of data can create a story line about a person - you would know everything about them.

      Here in the States: It's amazing what you tell about an individual just from their credit report. Add in Lexus-Nexus and I'll know just about everything about you.

      Everyone has something to hide and for good reason.

      People are cruel, shallow and small minded.

      --
      RIP America

      July 4, 1776 - September 11, 2001

    5. Re:Religion interprets the data. by elucido · · Score: 1

      It's impossible to ever have a data literate citizenship because data is interpreted by religion. It's interpreted by religion because people aren't naturally reasonable and don't do whats in their individual self interest.

      An example, if the sexual behavior of every human being in the USA were released what would be the response by the general public? If you want to predict the response look at the response to homosexuality.

      Another example, if nobody in the USA had any secret from anyone else what would be the result?

      If you are a jew are you comfortable with neo-nazi's having your medical records? If you are muslim are you comfortable with jews having access to your medical history? If you are anyone are you comfortable with everyone having access to every dumb thing you've said or done in your entire life?

      Sure they wont be as much blackmail going on, instead people will be getting killed for who they are and with unlimited information it's much easier to make the lists.

      The sexual behavior of humans was released in the Kinsey books. It offended many people.

      Medical records are not suggested as an open source item, the data is too personal.

      You are taking it a bit too far, they are only suggesting making a massive amount of public data available. It would specifically identify your credit card purchases, just the fact that Y people spent X amount over Z time on A things.

      Unfortunately your medical records aren't as secret as you think. When you search for certain terms on Google or buy certain things on amazon the spyware, adware, and other products track where you go, what you look at, and somewhere somebody knows at least some of your medical vulnerabilities. These individuals are running privately controlled corporations which may be controlled by foreign entities with no regard for the Constitution or your rights. This information can be sold to anybody for any reason once collected and through statistically analysis along with your identity and purchase history, you can learn a surprising amount of details about a person.

      This is the least of it because with facebook now every detail about you is public. Think about it.

    6. Re:Religion interprets the data. by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      What's this "Kinsey books" ? More information is requested :)

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    7. Re:Religion interprets the data. by Antisyzygy · · Score: 1

      He's a scientist that did a massive study of human sexuality. Just Google it and it will come.

      --
      That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
  5. We aren't talking about anonymous data. by elucido · · Score: 1

    If we knew for sure the data being datamined on facebook were anonymous and would forever remain anonymous thats one thing but when you have peoples names and identities attached to this data it moves beyond the realm of statistical analysis and scientific research and into the realm of religious judgement and criminal persecutions.

    What you end up with is witch-hunting, banning of certain behaviors, hatred of larges groups of individuals who think a certain way, and general cultural bigotry.

    How can you trust with your life, liberty and honor that the data being collected about you wont someday be used to destroy your life, liberty and honor?

  6. If people could learn there wouldn't be slavery. by elucido · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Obviously people refuse to learn the truth because the truth is too scary. They want to believe in the fantasy illusion created by Disney and by religious systems, to convinced themselves that God is protecting them or that the good guys always win, or that the government is protecting them, or that some savior, aliens, robots from cybertron, will come and save them.

    NOBODY IS COMING TO SAVE YOU. First learn to save yourself and you wont tolerate being ignorant. Free yourself from your own ignorance before you try to save someone else.

    Thats the only message that will allow people to truly WTFU(Wake the f*ck up). And even this isn't enough because even if you know the truth about reality you won't be able to change it, because the majority of sheep are comfortable.

  7. Lies, damned lies, and statistics by Dogbertius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Too bad most of the population doesn't even grasp basic tactics used to manipulate the representation of data. The most common ones being:
    -cherry picking
    -disproportionately small samples sizes
    -no idea of what a confidence interval is
    -the fallacy of appealing to tradition/religion/celebrity-endorsement/belief
    -the inability to distinguish between science and psuedo/junk-science
    -or that, GASP, correlation does not imply causation


    This is a simple combination of common sense and critical thinking, which we were taught in fifth grade elementary school. Still, such a disturbing number of people seem to be unable to grasp such basic concepts.

    How exactly will they be able to interpret this data beyond dumping parts of it in excel, extracting an average (without outlier removal or consideration, because, "why would we do that? Won't it make it less accurate?"), and making another ridiculous policy or tax as a result? I'm all for making this data available for analysis by the public, but it is the responsibility of individuals to educate themselves beyond what they did (or did not) learn in school as a kid so that policy makers cannot bully them into submission due to an inability to interpret data or understand certain concepts.

    And before someones cries out "academic elitist", let me note, again, that that the above topics are taught to us as children, not in university.

    1. Re:Lies, damned lies, and statistics by Ashriel · · Score: 1

      Wow, where did you go to school? Wherever it was, consider yourself lucky. While I don't remember much about my early school years (I spent most of the time either sitting in the back reading, or skipping class altogether), I'm pretty sure critical thinking skills weren't a part of it. Where I went to school, you either had critical thinking skills, or you (most likely) didn't. No one taught them (who wants children that can think for themselves?).

    2. Re:Lies, damned lies, and statistics by Dogbertius · · Score: 1

      I went to school in a smaller town based around a farming-type community. Not quite the burbs, but still small-townish. I was fortunate enough that my teacher was very passionate about what he taught. Two days after we started learning plotting simple graphs, he showed how zooming in could be used to to deceive. Small things here and there that accumulated over time.

    3. Re:Lies, damned lies, and statistics by paper+tape · · Score: 1

      They don't teach critical thinking in school anymore.

      The ideologues in charge of modern education don't want children thinking critically about their indoctrination. That would hamper the programming.

  8. Negative Nancy by Sp1n3rGy · · Score: 1

    Quit being so damned negative!

    Many people teach themselves all kinds of extraordinary talents these day. Have you looked around youtube recently? You don't have to be a geek to be interested in learning after college age.

    Examples from just one subject:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLCsKGRniGY&feature=fvst
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WkEKb4Ukzs&feature=fvst

    I for one, assumed all of this data would be owned and sold by companies, making it scarce. Today's business runs on information, though.

    Where is this free data? Any sources?

  9. I'm happy for the folks in the UK by cdrguru · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, here in the US 99% of the population isn't interested in becoming really "literate". They are happy to watch NASCAR events and American Idol on TV, read People magazine and the Weekly World News and not much else.

    The Internet is specifically for playing games, forwarding hoax emails and for building up a self-reinforcing attitude of superiority by reading blogs from people suffering from "Extreme Ego Syndrome" or EES. It used to be that in person when encountering someone with EES you would excuse yourself quickly - today's EES sufferers now have a forum and an audience, two things guaranteed to build a simple case of EES into the much more severe EFES (Extreme Fatous Ego Syndrome). EFES sufferers have been known to rise to high public office (like Grand Dragon or the equivalent in Mensa) and sometimes run for President.

    Sadly, there is no know cure for EFES and the cure for EES is to isolate the sufferer until their ego will fit in a hatbox. The US Army used to have a solution for this - Alaska - but this is no longer a reasonable solution. Too many people in Alaska these days.

    1. Re:I'm happy for the folks in the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US Army used to have a solution for this - Alaska - but this is no longer a reasonable solution.

      It also clearly no longer works - Alaska has given us Caribou Barbie, who can rail against "socialism" while expecting praise for her half-term as governor of a state which (*gasp*) considers oil resources a collective property and REDISTRIBUTES the proceeds to all residents. Socialism my ass.

  10. The data you requested is missing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, the IPCC deleted the data.

  11. Data literacy? Give me a break. by Angst+Badger · · Score: 1

    If you lack logic and mathematics skills and have no real understanding of scientific method, to say nothing of broader and deeper general education than you are likely to get in American schools, all the data in the world won't help you. We are decades past the point when an average person with an average education and no particular motivation to constantly self-educate can understand the world around them, much less make coherent policy decisions.

    We have reached the point when we must either commit to much higher educational standards or disenfranchise the under-educated. Or just stand by helplessly while professional rabble rousers manipulate an increasingly ignorant general population and turn democracy into a mockery of itself.

    --
    Proud member of the Weirdo-American community.
  12. Flood people with data and they drown. by paper+tape · · Score: 1

    The more data you flood people with, the less likely it is that they will look at any of it. At best, they will pick an agency (one that agrees with their prejudices and preconceived notions) to aggregate, collate, and boil down that data into short bites that have little relation to the meaning of the original data.

    At worst, they will be overwhelmed to the point where they simply ignore most of it.

    Example of the latter: at my job, I receive about 150 work-related emails a day, even on my weekends. I delete all but two or three without even reading them, because the vast majority are informational emails that I don't have to read - and if I read them all, I'd have no time to actually do my job.

  13. China by UBfusion · · Score: 1

    Could we please have the same flood of open data for China, in the hope that we might reveal the secrets of their blooming economy?

  14. Facebook = fail :\ by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

    Cool post! Mind if I share it with my friends on facebook?

    (And goddammit, why do I use facebook? ... sigh ...)

  15. Re:If people could learn there wouldn't be slavery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big talk, basement boy.

  16. Guardian page on world hovernment data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's one source -

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world-government-data

    And while I think of it

    EUROSTAT EU statistics - http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page/portal/eurostat/home/

    Just to chip in with the perspective of someone who has been dealing in health care data for the past several years: Most of the analyses of this open data will be done by people and groups with an agenda. Which will be good because they'll be motivated to actually do the analyses, and will be bad because their analyses will be at risk of intended and unintended bias in practice and reporting. Doing good data analysis is hard, as the health care field has learned to its cost. See, eg, Gary Taubes on epidemiology, PLoS Medicine on writing and reporting practices in pharma, Ioannidis on "Why most published research findings are false." (Google the title). Results of open data analysis may be released on the Internet with minimal review or quality control, and misinformation has a prodigious ability to spread and persist. Even those who don't feel qualified to critique the analysis itself can still insist that analysts are open about their intentions and disclose potential conflicts of interest. Those able to do a technical critique should insist that we are told enough about the methods to reproduce the analysis in full.

  17. Data quakity by plopez · · Score: 1

    Of course I meant quality, but it was a typo. Anyone searching for "quality" in the subject field would not find it. There is a huge amount of "dirty data" out there. In addition 2 organization, even in the same building; part of the same department or work group; Ofen record things differently or have conflicting information.

    How do we find the inforation and insure it is correct?Quality must
    be addressed before releasing data.

    --
    putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
  18. Facebook a good public education by cavebison · · Score: 1

    Take Facebook.. due to the flood of usage and forcing people to use what is a *web app* as opposed to just a web site/blog, I think it's made a lot of people becomes more web-savvy and aware of things like "settings".

    In that way, I think FB has, however inadvertently, done the general public a great service. It's also, inadvertently, made people think more about "technology issues" like privacy and security, and what "data" actually means.

  19. They don't want to end up like TechCrunch by cavebison · · Score: 1

    with informative article titles like Bing Gets A Foursquare Badge For The World Cup With Thrillist Tips

    I read the article and still don't know what it means.

  20. I'd be happy if voters were numerate by presidenteloco · · Score: 0

    To most people, money works kind of like this:
    $1,$10,$100,$1000,$10,000,$100,000,$gazillions and gazillions

    This leads to insane election results, where an incumbent government is kicked out
    because the documentation was missing on $ 3 million (i.e. $ 3 gazillion) in government spending, on some
    insignificant program, when the government was managing a $150 billion annual budget.
    The unaccounted for amount was 1 / 50,000 (=0.002%) of the budget being managed.

    (This actually happened in Canada).

    Or, when asked what a government should do to cut costs, many voters say:
    "The bastards should cut their MP (representative) salaries in half!"

    (Thereby probably saving something like a whopping 1 / 10,000 (0.01%) of the annual budget.)

    Anything we can do to make people start being able to at least figure in
    rough orders of magnitude, and to understand what "in the noise" means,
    has my vote!

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    Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?