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California Tracks Parolees With GPS, Then Ignores Alerts

An anonymous reader writes "Several years ago, California decided to require high-risk parolees, such as gang members and sex offenders, to wear GPS monitoring devices. The idea was to relay location information to law enforcement to ensure that the convicts stay where they're supposed to. Unfortunately, the state often misses acting on those alerts, making the devices both a lesson in the pitfalls of technology management and a massive exercise in largely useless spending."

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  1. Won't somebody think of the children! by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Really, I'd like to know who was in charge of the system, that way I can never hire the guy.

    or at least I'd like to know WHY nobody acted on it, maybe he had no budget to do anything?

    1. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and have already too many bigger problems they don't have time to investigate.

      Convicted violent felons violating the terms of their parole don't represent a sufficiently big enough problem to investigate? Hell, there wouldn't even be a long drawn out investigation. *keystrokes*, "Hmm, looks like he is at Sams Club, send a radio car to that location...."

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    2. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What are you talking about? The system worked perfectly:

      - the leaders spent a lot of money
      - they bragged about it in their monthly newsletters
      - the voters FELT safe and happy

      This system worked just as planned by the politicians. They made Californians feel safe and happy and warm inside. Bread and circuses.

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    3. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Informative

      or at least I'd like to know WHY nobody acted on it,

      Because they don't care. They don't *have* to. They're government workers. It's almost impossible to get fired from a government job in this state. They sit around not caring, spending other people money, and then retire early with a golden pension and health benefits. *That's* what is bankrupting the state. The public employee unions have complete and total control over the state legislature, but all the ideologues sit around in their reality bubbles and echo chambers blaming everything else.

      There was a high profile murder case just this year where the guy was out on parole, violated parole almost ten times, had a psychologist evaluate him an a major risk, but no one did boo about it. No one cared, and another young woman was slaughtered for no damn reason.

    4. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I then assume the system was put in place for political reasons, some company that makes the stuff likely convinced some politician that the system was bullet proof, and sold him overnight.

      I then assume that the body required to implement this project then likely said: "Sure, we can do that, but we need more money."

      on being denied that money, I would have expected them to take this to the press. get some public attention to look at the matter, see why the government is proposing solutions that there's no money for.

    5. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Informative

      California prisons are overfull and underfunded, they are operating at somewhere near twice capacity. They don't have enough guards and on a lot of the prisons the guard towers around the perimeter are empty: you could just drive a truck through the fence, pick someone up and leave before anyone realized what was happening. If you are a non-violent criminal, you will probably only need to serve half or even a quarter of your sentence before being released. In addition, the prison systems are an inefficient bureaucracy. They send prisoners to different places to get check-ups that could be easily done in one place, things like that. All this information I got from my uncle who is a prison administrator, so take it for what it's worth.

      If you are wondering why the prisons in California are so full, it's because a few years ago we passed a "three strikes you're out" law, which means repeat offenders get life imprisonment. So they are trying creative stuff like this. Guess it's not working.

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    6. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey, they don't have time for that.

      But notice that they know every time Lindsy Lohan has had a drink and it shows up on her device...

    7. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by mapkinase · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I share your emotional reaction to this budget exercise a lot. A lot.

      But. I think that there still might be some positive outcome from this: at least in the beginning parolees had a feeling that they are being watched and that feeling may be prevented them from committing more crime than they would have committed without GPS devices. This is just a hypothesis which quite hard to check: crime statistics dynamics depends on many factors and it is impossible to separate the influence of just one of them.

      Of course now that they know (or at least those of them who are avid readers of signonsandiego or slashdot) that nobody cares about their latitudes and longitudes, this factor is probably gone.

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    8. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd suggest it has nothing to do with government workers. Its like that fancy system monitoring software you got for your IT department. Shows all kinds of alarms and alerts - they they cut your entire department. Are you going to spend your day acting on alarms, or answering help desk emails? If your time is split between all that - stuff is going to slip by the wayside.

    9. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Even if nobody acts on the alarms, there's still a log file.

      So if a crime is committed somewhere, it will be relatively easy to check whether any of the paroled felons were in the vicinity when it happened.

      So, deterrence factor against committing further crimes will still exist.

    10. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by Bakkster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Convicted violent felons violating the terms of their parole don't represent a sufficiently big enough problem to investigate? Hell, there wouldn't even be a long drawn out investigation. *keystrokes*, "Hmm, looks like he is at Sams Club, send a radio car to that location...."

      This is California. You think they have gas money for their patrol cars to get them to the parole violator's location? Let alone the money for additional cops who aren't making money for the state (such as speeding tickets or issuing other fines)?

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    11. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by Paracelcus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One of the biggest problems in that the law does not differentiate between the Pedo that rapes a little kid and an 18 year old who bones his 16 year old girlfriend or the 70 year old weenie wagger.

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    12. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your uncle is part of the problem. The prisons are not underfunded. The prisons are waste too much money.

      Remember, it costs California $47,000 per-inmate annually, which is 50 percent higher than the national average. There are approximately 170,000 people in California prisons. That works out to almost 10% of the budget. If the cost were more in line with the rest of the nation, it would save over $2 billion.

      Ask your uncle why it costs a third more to house an inmate in California. I guarantee you he won't say it is because he is overpaid, but that is the case.

      I support three-strikes laws. If one is going to be an habitual repeat offender, I see no need to let one out.

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    13. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe so, but they still have time to deal with a high profile case like her before the sex offenders.

    14. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Texas may not be AS BAD as California - but they are working on it. A prisoner convinced the entire prison system that he was paralyzed, couldn't walk, and rolled around the prison in a wheelchair for quite a long time. Then, he convinced the prison officials that he needed some kind of medical attention, which required he be sent to a more central location, with better facilities. Somewhere between here and there, he pulled a weapon, relieved his two guards of THEIR weapons, and took off. Wasn't paralyzed at all!!

      The shitbird didn't stay free for long though. The inept bungler was recaptured, without resistance, in about a week.

      http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/12/02/texas.escaped.prisoner/

      Oh - another story of ineptitude, in Houston. A teen was arrested, searched, taken to the local jail, and during his booking, he was "strip searched". No cop is allowed in the same room with him while naked, so you have one cop looking in through a doorway on one side, and another cop looking in through a doorway from the other side. The kid managed to smuggle a pistol into his jail cell, because the cops couldn't watch the kid.

      I'll bet every state in this country has similar stories to tell. People joke about backwoods inbred Arkansans - but we had a scene out of one of those stupid movies. A prisoner sweet talked the jail warden's wife into giving him a gun and a vehicle.

      Phhht.

      As long as there are people, we can be assured that stupidity will survive.

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    15. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, it was put in place for economic reasons. These bracelets are a lot cheaper than keeping these people in jail, where dangerous people SHOULD be kept. If someone really, really wants to rape and kill kids, will knowing he was in the vicinity after the fact really bring back the victims? This outcry was triggered by a monitored parolee committing murder. One has to ask, if they had followed up on every alarm, would that really have prevented the murders? The only way to make sure these people don't re-offend is to keep their asses in jail. A bracelet is just like a restraining order; if someone is willing to break the law, it does nothing to stop them. It only alerts people slightly earlier that they are doing something wrong.

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    16. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And reducing the benefits and/or number of employees is hardly going to help get those remaining "to do boo about" parole violations, is it?

      The situation is complicated, but it is the sheer number of employees and the level of benefits that comprise a bulk of the budget problem. Remember, when a politician says "we've cut to the bone" the translation is "we've reduced next year's increases a bit". The illegal aliens don't help, but, well, I'm the moral equivalent to three Hitlers plus two Stalins times a Charles Manson for even daring to mention it, right?

      They already managed to get a 2/3 vote last year and pass the largest state tax increase in US history, and it accomplished *nothing* because about 90% of the budget is considered holy and sacrosanct and untouchable.

      *shrug* It's too late anyway, because *I* don't care anymore, either. Not really. Neither does anyone else with a functioning intellect. The smart folk are abandoning this ship of fools as soon as they can. The extemists are gerrymandered in and it'll be asshat after asshat from here on in. Look who the Democrats are running for governor now: Jerry Brown. That 9000 year old blithering fossil's actions during his last stint as governor in the 70s are at the root of many problems this state is having today! But, yeah, vote that wrinkled senile sack of crap back in! Yay!

      But you just keep hiring more state workers and raising those benefits. I say reduce the 2/3 majority requirement for tax increases and let the low wattage loons in Sacramento have a field day. Anything that can hasten official state bankruptcy is a *good* thing. Let the creditors take over. That's the time to sit back and break out the popcorn.
       

    17. Re:Won't somebody think of the children! by causality · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The victims are not your friends, your family, and hopefully, not you.

      The crux of the matter is the assumption that all use is damaging abuse.

      For the sake of argument, assume that you mentioned drinking some beers last weekend. Unless you give a solid reason to believe otherwise, the assumption is that you used alcohol responsibly, you didn't drive drunk, you didn't beat your wife, you didn't get fired for being drunk on the job, etc. You had some beer, stayed home, watched a movie or something, and went to bed.

      Because of that, if I said that it would be wrong to put you in prison merely for possessing and using alcohol, you wouldn't immediately portray your friends and family members as victims. You wouldn't immediately assume that anyone who drinks alcohol or believes that adults should be allowed to drink alcohol is a hardcore alcoholic. You'd see why it's unreasonable to assume that all people who use alcohol are alcoholics, that is, alcohol addicts who victimize themselves and those who care about them. You might see why that assumption is a baseless emotional appeal that should never determine public policy.

      You might wonder how anyone could, with a straight face, make a serious crime out of watching a movie and drinking a beer. You might wonder that while understanding it's perfectly reasonable to make a serious crime out of driving drunk, since such irresponsible use does endanger others. It's reasonable because the moment others are harmed in some way, such as being endangered, then and only then does it become a crime. Then and only then does the state have a legitimate reason to use police power. Anything else is tyranny.

      So why do we recreate the exact circumstances of Prohibition for substances other than alcohol, after having observed that Prohibition stopped no one from drinking, served only to fund organized crime, and was a complete failure? Why do we do that knowing that no one fought with automatic firearms in the streets over alcohol until it was made illegal? Why do we continue to make an assumption that adults cannot be expected to use something responsibily when we already expect them to do that for one of the more harmful drugs known to society?

      You see, it doesn't make sense. The anti-drug commercials you're parroting there can sound very convincing until you really question the whole thing as a system. Only politicians benefit from this because of the expansion of police power that it excuses.

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  2. I disagree by Midnight's+Shadow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to disagree with the summery because I don't see it as

    both a lesson in the pitfalls of technology management and a massive exercise in largely useless spending.

    It served the purpose of making the voters think something was being done which is all that is important in US politics.

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    1. Re:I disagree by MadKeithV · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have to disagree with the summery because I don't see it as

      I disagree with the summery too. It's wintry, or maybe autumny. Sometimes springy.

  3. -1 Flamebait on the summary by Pojut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not useless spending, they just aren't utilizing it properly. The idea is a good one, but just like regulations, it's only useless if it isn't properly enforced.

  4. Re:Just dial it in... by Issarlk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Weeeee. Let's play surprise suicide bomber!

  5. A modest proposal by mbone · · Score: 3, Funny

    Clearly, RIAA should track these parolees - and fine them $ 150,000 for every time they remove a bracelet or run out of battery power.

    That would save the State of California $ 60 million per year it doesn't currently have.

    1. Re:A modest proposal by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

      Clearly, RIAA should track these parolees - and fine them $ 150,000 for every time they remove a bracelet or run out of battery power.

      The RIAA needs an incentive, so give the bracelets wireless internet and have them download music whenever the perolee goes somewhere restricted. He won't know what hit him.

  6. Need moar expensive, custom software! by newdsfornerds · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Officials say the backlog grew because they lacked software to run an ongoing report of all unresolved cases." Prolly all they need is a sql script. But whatever.

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  7. Problem lies between monitor and chair by Saishuuheiki · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I read the article and come to a different conclusion. I believe the problem isn't in the technology, because from what I read it mostly worked. It mentioned some false alarms, but nobody hurts because of a false alarm. The problem here lies in the ineptitude of the people using the system.

    Let's say we developed a system that detected earthquakes 1 minute before they went off, but 90% of the time it would be a false alarm. Then people proceed to ignore the alarm because it's usually wrong. Now when a real earthquake occurs, those who ignore the alarm blame it on bad technology.

    I say no, this is the fault of the reaction, not the technology itself.

    1. Re:Problem lies between monitor and chair by Zak3056 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's say we developed a system that detected earthquakes 1 minute before they went off, but 90% of the time it would be a false alarm. Then people proceed to ignore the alarm because it's usually wrong. Now when a real earthquake occurs, those who ignore the alarm blame it on bad technology.

      I say no, this is the fault of the reaction, not the technology itself.

      A broken clock is right twice a day, so there is no need to repair it?

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  8. High Risk Parolees? by camperdave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    High-risk parolees? A parolee is someone who has given their word (parole) that they will behave themselves and check in regularly in exchange for the privilege of spending some time outside of the prison walls. If you have to slap a GPS tracking unit on them then you don't trust their word. If so, then why are you giving them parole in the first place?

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    1. Re:High Risk Parolees? by SnarfQuest · · Score: 2, Informative

      Trust, but verify

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    3. Re:High Risk Parolees? by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You offer the guy a deal for parole when he first gets in the system. Seems like an easy logical choice right? Then when he violates it (an incredibly common affair), you get to shove him in jail for the parole violation with no trial, no plea, no nothing. IANAL, but this is what a practicing lawyer in CA has told me. It's more than slightly ridiculous, but that's what happens when you're hamstrung by a retarded 3 strikes law among other things.

      (1) The guy doesn't have to take parole if he doesn't want to. Parole is voluntary.

      (2) You would think that he could abide the terms of parole given that the State could lawfully be holding him in jail. What is the thought process: "They are letting me out of my passed sentence on the condition that I don't drink and drive but I think I'll pound a few beers and drive home anyway"?

      (3) 3 strikes is retarded in implementation but not in concept. People thrice convicted of bona-fide violent crimes (assault, robbery, rape) should get 25-life. People thrice convicted of shoplifting should get a weekend in jail and a vocational class. The idea that we cannot distinguish between those obviously different crimes is absurd.

      Hence people like me are in the ridiculous position of having to defend the concept of 3S while concurrently explaining that shoplifting and other minor crimes were never part of our plan. People that repeatedly violate the fundamental human rights of others (to wit, the rights not to be robbed, raped or beaten) need to be imprisoned.

  9. dear unions: by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    at one time, when gilded age corporatist assholes employed pinkerton's thugs to kneecap guys just trying to earn enough to feed his children, unions were heroic and noble

    in today's day and age, a union is nothing more than a lottery ticket for lazy assholes to earn way way more than middle class salaries, for doing far less, and be accountable and responsible for nothing

    additionally, no one can afford to manufacture anything here anymore because of union mandated salary levels, so everything is now done in chinese sweatshops. a committed anti-corporatist would respond it is the corporatists who drive jobs out of the country, not the unions. to which i would respond that that is easy to say, until you actually have to buy the goods with the sticker shock attached to them just so a union member can have lavish benefits and upper middle class salaries well beyond yours

    the unions help drive jobs out of the country by demanding far too much for workers. the irony being, in china, people are now unionizing, get this, against the communist government's wishes (that extra twist of historical irony practically makes my head explode)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/11/business/global/11strike.html

    is it possible in this world to have the balance of power between the unions and the corportatists simply give workers a decent wage and keep jobs domestic and keep goods and services affordable?

    and can GOVERNMENT unions simply be mandated out of existence, please?

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    1. Re:dear unions: by infinite9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      additionally, no one can afford to manufacture anything here anymore because of union mandated salary levels, so everything is now done in chinese sweatshops. a committed anti-corporatist would respond it is the corporatists who drive jobs out of the country, not the unions. to which i would respond that that is easy to say, until you actually have to buy the goods with the sticker shock attached to them just so a union member can have lavish benefits and upper middle class salaries well beyond yours

      You're repeating the standard conservative (I hesitate to say republican these days) ideology. And it's not without merit. But I think everyone has it backwards. I don't think union workers are over-paid. I think the rest of us are under-paid. When a government official says that inflation is low and that it's a good thing, they mean wage inflation. Wages have been stagnant here for more than a decade. Maybe, just maybe, the unions have it right. The difference is that they have had the power to prevent the wage stagnation for their members that the rest of us have been powerless to stop. And for that I blame the corporatists. So when you look at the cost of something made in america and feel sticker shock, maybe it's because you're not making enough, and the value of the dollar has been eroded.

      You feel like you're making more than your parents and grand-parents did, because the absolute number is higher. But in terms of purchasing power, you're making much less. Those union workers we like to complain about are actually living the way our grandparents did. This is the real reason for your sticker shock. Do they deserve to live like us? Or do we deserve to live like them?

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    2. Re:dear unions: by Darth_brooks · · Score: 2, Interesting

      at one time, when gilded age corporatist assholes employed pinkerton's thugs to kneecap guys just trying to earn enough to feed his children, unions were heroic and noble

      Now the corporatist assholes jack up your health insurance co-pays, (or your premium rates, or just plain get rid your your healthcare benefits) raid the company pension plan (if it still exists) for a new condo in Maui, or manipulate the stock price (which is a nice chunk of your 401k) to make a few bucks on the side, or run the company into the ground and get their golden parachute when they 'resign' while the other execs vote themselves raises and keep their bonuses under the guise of "retaining quality employees" (the same employees that have been running themselves into the ground).

      It's not the unions that suck, its greedy human beings that suck. Just because the business card says Committee man or Union Delegate doesn't make their actions any different than someone whose card says MBA or CFO. Greedy entitled pricks are greedy entitled pricks. At least when they were hiring pinkertons the pinkerton agent wasn't telling you that what he was doing was "good for the company" or was what was "right for our shareholders" while you took a beating.

      There are plenty of fatcat pricks in unions (just like how there are plenty of useless factcat pricks where you work. They're not a union specific breed), but that doesn't mean that a *funded* pension, decent health care, and a good wage are evil awful naughty things that only liberals believe in.

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    3. Re:dear unions: by Insightfill · · Score: 4, Informative

      the unions help drive jobs out of the country by demanding far too much for workers.

      A larger source of the problem was starting in the 80s (Reagan) and again in the 90s (Clinton) import tariffs were dropped to almost nothing in the US with the expectation that we'd make it all back in IP jobs and money: entertainment, software and biotech.

      We learned that many countries were quite happy to sell to the US with the reduced tariffs in place, but didn't drop their own, and didn't necessarily give diddly-squat about our IP and its rules.

      Tariffs are quite high on sugar and textiles, but for electronics and heavy industry, it's almost non-existent.

    4. Re:dear unions: by Jawnn · · Score: 2, Informative
      Jeezuz, where to start...

      in today's day and age, a union is nothing more than a lottery ticket for lazy assholes to earn way way more than middle class salaries, for doing far less, and be accountable and responsible for nothing

      Nice rant. Got anything like, you know, facts to back this up? Hey! Here's some. There has been a shift away from living wage manufacturing jobs towards lower paying service jobs for decades. The main reason? Off-shoring of those manufacturing jobs. Why go off-shore when you have the most productive workers in the world (in output per dollar spent)? Easy - corporate welfare. Ever since the Reagan years, there have been very generous tax breaks for companies who ship their manufacturing, even their raw materials, overseas. In the eighties, I watched lumber mill after paper mill close down in the Pacific Northwest, sometimes taking whole towns with them. It wasn't unions that did this. It was the fact that it was so much more profitable to sell and ship raw logs to Japan than to process them here. No, not because of wages, but because the taxes charged on that international transaction (taking wages and tax revenues with it) were a fraction of what they would have been if the timber were processed here. Unions had nothing to do with this.
      NAFTA, no unions, are the reason that the American economy is failing. Yes, there are indeed "union jobs" that are held by "lazy assholes". Wish I had one. But I don't. You probably don't either. In fact most of us don't, which is why trying to typify them in that matter is exactly what your boss wants you to think, you dimwit.

  10. Some problems are pretty isolated to just America. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I see Americans do this a lot. They take a problem that's common throughout the American political system, and try to play down its negativity by suggesting it's a problem that's common elsewhere.

    In reality, that's just not the case. In South Korea, Japan, Scandinavia and throughout Europe, the government actually works for the people. Then again, they don't have two shitty parties, but numerous smaller parties who have to work together, and who will quickly be replaced if they deliver only bullshit promises, rather than action, to the electorate.

    Most other democracies and republics aren't like America. They aren't two party systems, where both parties are corporate-controlled. Thus many of the problems with American politics are quite isolated just to American politics. To claim they exist elsewhere is just not true, and indicative of a complete ignorance of foreign governments.

  11. Blame the taxpayer by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This project probably got through on some scaremongering bill but then when the non-vote winning budget was needed, the politicians knew that the voter does not want to spend any money ever, and voted against it.

    Police costs a LOT of money. Crime costs even more but no politician has to raise taxes to fund crime.

    Take the "three-strikes" law. Interesting idea, but did anyone in favor of it ALSO vote to increase the number of jails by about a 1000%? Because ALL those rotating door criminals that were out in a couple of months are now in for life. Even if you lock them four to a cell and reduce their life expectancy that way, you still are talking about housing an awful lot of people for a bloody long time. And a life-sentence looses its meaning if they are paroled after 6 months because the need the space.

    And if you are against the "three-strikes" system? Then what is your solution and how are you going to pay for it? Prevention? Lots of cops and social workers. Re-education? lots of parole officers. Treating those with mental problems before they come to harm? Very expensive mental hospitals (which were cut and now jails fullfill their role).

    This project most likely was started as a way to aid parole officers in their job. Then it became a way to cut costs instead and now you got fewer parole officers with more duties and ever more prisoners to track.

    But hey, you got a tax cut... oh wait no. that 300 dollars has seen been added to your bills multiple times.

    Oh well. That is what you get for giving everyone the vote. You turn the running of the country into Idols.

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  12. Re:Badly managed, yes. But... by AndersOSU · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These are parolees, you don't need probable cause. All you have to do is show up whenever there's an alert. If you can't show up whenever there's an alert you need to reassess your priorities.

  13. You see this shit in IT all the time. by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You see this kind of shit in IT all the time: $boss gives you $new_shiny but does not give you the human resources to manage said $new_shiny, resulting in $new_shiny not being effectively used. Result: $boss jumps on your ass for not utilizing $new_shiny, even though you didn't ask for it (or asked for it with the necessary addition of more humans).

    Only difference in this case is that it's cops not IT people.

    I suspect that information inundation has something to do with it, too: how many parolees are there who are violating their parole? If it's more than a scant few, chances are they don't have the force numbers to pay attention to the alerts, never mind actually act on them.

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  14. They screwed themselves by publicizing this by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The bracelets are there as a deterrent. As long as the parolee's believe every little alarm will be followed up with serious consequences, then the system works fine. Once they figure out that they can set the alarms off with no consequences (e.g. by reading articles like this one) then the system becomes an exercise in futility. Then you have to actually follow up on every notification, despite the fact that 99% of them are false positives.

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    1. Re:They screwed themselves by publicizing this by tnk1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, I have talked to people who actually manage these programs on the commercial side as part of an informational exchange for similar sorts of technology situations (we track fleet vehicles via GPS and cellular, they track people). There are a lot of different reasons to have these programs, including:

      Making sure that the subject does not go to certain places or stays in certain places (of course)

      but also:

      Having a historical record of the whereabouts of the subject
      Determining if the subject enters the same area as another subject

      A false positive on an actual real-time event could cause a car to be erroneously sent to the location of a subject, but might just as easily just result in a phone call to the subject to verify their location and indicate that they have been seen in the wrong place.

      Let's face it, you will *never* have enough manpower to track every call. There are far more law-abiding people than criminals, but there are more criminals than cops by far as well. Parole is a fact of life, you are going to have parolees unless you start executing people like the used to when they shoplift or commit various other more petty crimes.

      However, even if the people are not caught, you can use the GPS data in court to convict them when they are caught, and you can even determine if an offender was in the area of a crime even if the zone was not restricted one (ie. someone wandered into the subject close vicinity and the subject killed them or something). They do not just track if the subject leaves their allowed zone or enters a restricted area, they also keep minute-by-minute data on actual location and store it forever.

      I am definitely in a related business, so I have a vested interest in this, but do realize that even if alarms don't allow pickups of all subjects at all times who stray outside the limits, they do allow for subjects to be caught and more importantly, possibly deterred when there is no other method that would have worked before GPS tracking. There has never been a time where there were enough cops to track all criminals, and a GPS tracking system certainly makes it easier for a much smaller force to respond to a larger number of events. But we all knew that, right?

      If anything the issues with the tracking system is a call for departments to learn how to use these systems properly, as opposed to using them to replace officers on the street which has never been their purpose.

  15. well yeah by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Insightful

    it would be great if we all made $150K a year. now enunciate the real world plan in which that is possible

    thought so

    all you have is wish fulfillment fantasy, not valid social commentary

    i actually consider myself quite liberal and have voted Democratic all my life. but when it comes to unions, i see only a bloated historical anachronism that does more harm than good

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    1. Re:well yeah by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Informative

      A union allows workers to bargain with employers collectively. Corporations act collectively (RIAA, MPAA, other industry associations), why shouldn't workers?

      The reason Chinese workers are cheaper than American workers is because the cost of living is cheaper there. When I was in Thailand in the USAF in 1974 you could take a bus anywhere in the country for a nickle, buy a tailored silk shirt for $10, feed four people in a restaraunt for a dollar. I paid thirty dollars a month to rent my bungalow (when I got back, for comparison, I paid $160 a month for a shotgun house in the slums and a McDonalds "meal" cost two bucks for one person). Now tell me how you can possibly compete with that?

      And here's a little tip: most union workers don't earn $150k/yr. I have a friend who's worked for the postal service for thirty years fixing those big mail boxes, he makes $75k. Were it not for his union he'd probably be making little more than minimum wage.

      Unless you're a corporatist or business owner, you're dead wrong about unions. Any working person who is anti-union is stupid, ignorant, or crazy.

  16. Re:Tin foil Anklets!!! by Coffee+Warlord · · Score: 2, Informative

    The server will send an alert that it can't communicate with the unit, and (theoretically, apparently not in CA) someone will be contacting that person to check it out.

  17. 150k FOR EVERYONE!!? by denzacar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ALL unionized workers get paid that much? Really?

    Oh... wait... you were generalizing and putting up a straw man, I get it.

    now enunciate the real world plan in which that is possible

    You mean a world where everyone makes unionized workers' salaries, benefits and protection and not the actual straw man 150k you mention above?
    Easy.

    The same one where CEOs DON'T get rewarded by 6 and 7-figure salaries and bonuses regardless if they bring the economy to its knees.
    Also... The same one where both CEOs and workers consider a sum like 150k a year "a shitload of money".

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  18. this is the problem: by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/business/economy/21pension.html

    In Yonkers, more than 100 retired police officers and firefighters are collecting pensions greater than their pay when they were working. One of the youngest, Hugo Tassone, retired at 44 with a base pay of about $74,000 a year. His pension is now $101,333 a year.

    now you tell me: do i have valid grounds to find this unacceptable?

    you introduce a false conflict: that if i stand against the union stooge, that i must by some inference be supporting the ceo making 7 figures while his company crashes and burns

    why can't i hate both?

    why can't i hate the coddled union stooge AND the coddled ceo, at the same time?

    and, most importantly, i reject the notion we should all make the same amount. please tell me we don't need to go into a remedial education about why communism fails

    i support capitalism with socialist safety nets. or socialism with capitalist engines. whatever. i simply am complaining about these union stooges obviously getting away with murder. just as much murder as the ceo scumbags with the golden parachutes from the companies they helped destroy

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    1. Re:this is the problem: by BranMan · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Bullshit. Retired Police and especially fire fighters should be taken care of well. We don't pay them, especially fire fighters, very well while they are working, and their chosen career chews them up.

      Consider fire fighters. Smoke inhalation, heavy exertion, burns, broken bones, frostbite - you name it. My father in law is a retired fire fighter and he has gnarled fingers, circulatory problems, a bad back, some burns, missing teeth, digestive problems, the list goes on.

      Doing that for 30 years, then retiring, I don't EXPECT them to be able to work at something else. Nor need to.

      Same with the Police and the military, who lay their health and life on the line. They deserve it - it's the least we owe them.

      So bitch about CEOs and Union workers if you want, but don't bitch about those that protect you - in spite of your attitude.