Might Shatner Boldly Lead Canada As Governor?

just fiddling around writes "Now that Michaëlle Jean is approaching the end of her customary five-year post as Governor General of Canada, the rumor mill has started on who Prime Minister Steven Harper will propose to the Queen in her stead. According to the CBC, the short list includes Captain Kirk, actor William Shatner. It seems that acting can lead to the highest offices in places other than California."

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IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[elrous0]

You...pitted...us...againsteachother. You...wanted...me..todoyourbidding. You...want...me...tobeyourgovernor. Well...I...WON'T...DO...IT!

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[OzPeter]

You...pitted...us...againsteachother. You...wanted...me..todoyourbidding. You...want...me...tobeyourgovernor. Well...I...WON'T...DO...IT!

One of the funniest things I saw on the 'net recently was to describe that style of speaking as Shatneritis.

But what is interesting is that Adam West used the same style of speech in the Batman TV series, (and according to Burt Ward did so in order to get more camera time on himself). Perhaps West and Shatner were twins separated at birth?

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[Anonymous Coward]

Q: What's Shatner's favorite french film festival?
A: Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannes!

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[RDW]

It seems that one of the jobs of the GG of Canada is periodically meeting the Aga Khan:

http://archive.gg.ca/media/pho/index_e.asp?GalleryID=584

http://www.akdn.org/photos_show.asp?Sid=47

Now, how would Shatner handle this situation..?

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[morgan_greywolf]

It was revealed quite some time ago that Shatner's "dramatic pauses" were due to him trying to remember his lines. Probably equally true for Adam West, though I don't really know.

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[NoZart]

most of the old star trek cast are dead you insensitive clod!

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[JustOK]

James Doohan even went so far as to put himself into a transporter loop to avoid talking to him.

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[FuckingNickName]

Which shows the lengths they're prepared to go to...

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[Beardo the Bearded]

Also, ST was a very low-budget show and they didn't have the money for retakes.

Nevertheless, William Shatner has already turned down the idea. There was a FB group a while ago, and he contacted us to say that while he was flattered, he felt that he was not qualified to represent Canada in such a respected and honoured position.

I would look it up, but FB is blocked at work.

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[boxwood]

Fun fact: that dude is actually a descendent of the original Assassins

Re:IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?

[FuckingNickName]

Which shows the lengths to which they're prepared to go...

This is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put...

As a Canadian

[epiphani]

I say: fuck that noise.

Re:As a Canadian

[epiphani]

I suppose I should qualify that statement. Everything I have read about William Shatner gives me the impression the man is a dick. If placed against someone (who has some reasonable buzz about him in this specific context) such as Romeo Dallaire, how does William Shatner measure up? This is no minor office - and the person who occupies it should be one of exceptional quality. Michelle Jean, my issues with her handling of Harper aside, was a person that could be looked up to for her journey through life and her efforts to support those less fortunate.

What has William Shatner done to deserve this?

As far as I'm concerned, he shouldn't even be mentioned among such people has Romeo Dallaire or Michelle Jean.

Re:As a Canadian

[Captain Splendid]

Aw come on, let's be brutally honest here - GG of any commonwealth country is a ceremonial position. Your job, such as it is, is to go around and do photo ops and shit like that. You're the Queen's representative, and she has no power or responsibilities, so Shatner will have even less.

This is actually a pretty good choice. As a Canadian, I'm more than happy for Kirk to be the guy schmoozing on behalf of my country.

Re:As a Canadian

[epiphani]

Born in Haiti, her family fled the country when she was 11 after her father was arrested and tortured. For most of the 80s, she went to university and volunteered at womens shelters. She co-ordinated major studies on violence against women in domestic settings. She moved into journalism in the late 80s, winning several awards for her coverage. She speaks 5 languages fluently. She has started womens shelters across the country.

What has William Fucking Shatner done?

source

Re:As a Canadian

[epiphani]

Alright, I'm going to take this in another direction. I've got more than enough karma to burn, and I haven't flamed someone in a while.

I don't know about you, but I'd like our purely ceremonial head of government to be taken seriously both at home and abroad.
No comment.

No comment? What fucking world do you live in? Do you not realize that perception may as well be reality in politics? The Governor General acts as the head of the Canadian Government. She meets with heads of state all the fucking time. She may not have any official power, but she wields a massive amount of influence. Access is power.

Get your head out of your ass. This appointment is not some minor office that nobody cares about. We are selecting someone to represent Canada to the world, and represent the Queen in this country. I expect that person to be one of the best of us. Do you honestly believe that William Shatner is one of the best of us?

Your posts demonstrate the problem with democracy. William Shatner is being considered alongside a man who has been internationally recognized for trying to stop the genocide in Rwanda, and speaking out about it ever since.

So I say to you, respectfully, go fuck yourself.

On the "until its not" comment: it wasn't that long ago.

Re:As a Canadian

[easterberry]

well yeah, I'm aware that the GG CAN exert power and I'll completely agree we all want to see Harper and the deceptiCons get theirs for some of the shit they've pulled. But like you said, it's a one shot thing and incredibly unlikely to ever happen for the reason of we LIKE the Queen. She's a classy dame and all that. Plus, we're the only good kid England has left. They kicked Australia out, the USA ran away to start a band and India just sat in its room refusing to eat until mom let him leave. I mean, sure, we may have married that french woman who's always going on about a divorce at all the family gatherings but we're still the good kid. The GG isn't likely ever going to USE that one shot any more than the Queen is to refuse to let a PM resign or accept a new one.

Re:As a Canadian

[Anonymous Coward]

If you think it's purely ceremonial, look back to December of 2008 where, at the behest of under-fire PM Stephen Harper, agreed to prorogue (suspend) parliament until the end of January to avoid a confidence vote scheduled for the following Monday in which the government was widely expected to lose.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/04/harper-jean.html

"Monday's no-confidence vote could have precipitated the rise of a proposed Liberal-NDP coalition, supported by the Bloc Québécois, or could have resulted in another election, depending on the Governor General's response."

It followed several recent events that reflected negatively on Harper's Tories, and would have at worst forced them out, and even the best case put them on the back foot going into an election campaign.

Ceremonial my ass.

Re:As a Canadian

[Mashiki]

No, you're being disingenuous.

No you're being dense at not understanding how a parliamentry system works with a functioning GG, especially in Canada. More so in Canada because of the Charter, compared to other commonwealth countries.

Re:As a Canadian

[BlueStraggler]

Well, she alone has the power to summon and dissolve parliament, which is hardly ceremonial. She's basically the referee between rivals for the government, and considering that we have a minority government right now, and may soon have another, the referee's job is pretty significant. It only seems like there isn't much power there because the current minority has been pretty stable, and the previous majorities haven't needed much refereeing.

Re:As a Canadian

[The Yuckinator]

"Stunt"? She was participating in the traditional lifestyle of some of Canada's Native People. It was no stunt, it's called respect, and it's something I sure-as-hell hope our Governer General has in spades when it comes to dealing with the citizens of our country.

She speaks French in Quebec, She eats Lobster in Nova Scotia and she eats seal heart when she's visiting Inuit people.

Re:As a Canadian

[value_added]

[W]e LIKE the Queen. She's a classy dame

I remember singing "God Save the Queen" in grade school. The Union Jack had been replaced the red and white maple leaf flag, of course, but the Queen's image was still on our currency and no one but ornithologists gave much thought to loons.

So, yeah, you could say we like it that way.

Pomp, circumstance, and the trappings of culture may not hold the appeal they did in other times, but every time I watch televised coverage of a US president giving a speech and I hear "Hail to the Chief" being played by a military band, or attend an even where the national anthem is played and see people struggling to remember the less-than-inspiring words ("the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air") and/or hit all the notes (1-1/2 octaves), I think back to how things were in Canada.

As for the sovereignty argument, I'd suggest that's overblown. The US opted for armed insurrection, so I suppose it's natural for there to be a focus on such things as "rights" or "freedom and liberty" to the exclusion of everything else that's just as important. I find that approach naive and simplistic (something you'd expect from an adolescent, perhaps), but who am I to judge?

A Canadian writer once wrote something to the effect that Canadians defer to authority, while Americans bow to power. I suspect that's a distinction too subtle for most Americans to understand. Or appreciate.

Re:As a Canadian

[easterberry]

Yeah. Like those assholes who eat pig meat, or cow meat OR ANY OTHER MEAT. IT'S JUST A TYPE OF MEAT. GET OVER IT. I'm sorry you find that particular animal cute but that's what they have up there. I'll eat seal heart. Hell, as long as it's nobody's pet I'll eat cat or dog too. When I decided I ate meat instead of being a vegetarian I agreed that animals were fair game for food. We've both decided that we're totally cool with murdering a living thing and eating it, please drop the pretense that you're somehow a better person because you insist on being shallow while you do it.

You Do Realize You Are Reporting on a Facebook Gro

[eldavojohn]

Might Shatner Boldly Lead Canada As Governor?

The only 'short list' I could find referenced was simply which Facebook groups had the most members. If anyone else can find anything worth noting from this article other than the fact that Star Trek fans are more numerous on Facebook than Leonard Cohen fans ... let me know. PROTIP: Facebook is not a cross section of the populace nor does that cross section necessarily think they are voting for William Shatner as Governor General when they click a tiny button to join that group. A flippant mouse click can be just as much a joke or laugh than it can be a true desire.

Highest Offices

[MarvinIsANerd]

"It seems that acting can lead to the highest offices in places other than California"

Absolutely. Forgotten about our 40th president of the United States, have we?

Not a serious contender

[Dzimas]

Shatner isn't bilingual, which is a serious strike against anyone vying for the GG position. Also note that the Canadian Governor General is essentially powerless in modern government - similar to the role played by the Queen. While, theoretically, the GG has the ability to impact parliamentary procedures in rare circumstances, it's not real power. Instead, the GG gives speeches, meets dignitaries, and spends a lot of time paying respect to unlucky soldiers arriving back from Afghanistan in coffins.

Re:You Do Realize You Are Reporting on a Facebook

[e4g4]

Yeah, as always - the summary is a little off. Shatner is by no means on the "short list". The "short list" has three people (who look like they're actually appropriate candidates) on it, the article happens to also mention two entries from the much longer list of "who the internet thinks it would be funny if they were nominated for this position".

Marooned eternity, in the center of a dead country

[Conchobair]

KHHHHAAAAAAAANADA!

Re:You Do Realize You Are Reporting on a Facebook

[SpeedyDX]

This is a retarded story. The only mention of Shatner in the whole FA is this:

One of the more controversial names being thrown out there on Facebook is that of Captain Kirk, actor William Shatner.

"It's time for Canada to boldly go where no country has gone before," notes a nearly 10,000-strong Facebook fan page that supports the idea.

There might have been another submission that could have been rejected that included this link, but, again, basically right off the bat, you see:

The Facebook fan page "Help Nominate William Shatner for Governor General" launched on March 22, 2010.

The OP is an asshole for submitting this as a serious story and writing the summary as if it were legit, and Taco, representative of all the editors I suppose, is being irresponsible for posting such a bullshit story like this on the front page.

Many people have been lamenting that the quality of stories have been going down in Slashdot. I don't really have that much of a gripe about that. I don't come to Slashdot for breaking news or the like. But when you start to post flat out falsehoods (there is no shortlist, there's not even a rumour, it's just a god damn Facebook group), that's when you cross the line into tabloidism. Horrible.

Shatner is...

[circletimessquare]

bilingual if... by that... you mean ... that he... groups his... words in... groups of ... two? The... random emphasis ... and random... questions are... useless though?

No... And it's 'Governor General' Not 'Governor'

[theshowmecanuck]

This is very old news in Canada. And no he won't. He doesn't even want the job, and the government is not considering him.

And it is "Governor General" not governor. It is an appointed position akin to say the most ceremonial presidential position in some republics. That is, before a law can come into effect it must be signed off by the GG. It is called Royal Assent. The GG represents the Queen of Canada (Elizabeth II) in Canada, and the monarch of the constitutional monarchy must approve all laws before they can come into effect. However, the GG by tradition always gives Royal Assent at the request of the Prime Minister. However most people don't realize that the GG doesn't HAVE to sign. It is a form of check or balance in the system. Of course this would likely never happen except in the rarest of circumstance.

Royal Assent must also be given in England as well before a law created in Parliament can go into effect. Of course in their case, the Queen signs it herself.

Before the 20th century, it was more common for the monarch to be able to withhold Royal Assent than today (less political repercussions back then). It is this ability to withhold Royal Assent that lent itself to the American Presidential Veto.