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Arrests For Selling Poison-Ware In Spain
An anonymous reader writes "Spain's FBI equivalent has arrested the management of a software company (Google translation; Spanish original) for selling custom software to small and medium-sized businesses with 'controlled errors' that resulted in the software bombing on a predetermined date. They would then charge for fixing the problem and press the client into buying a maintenance contract. More than 1,000 clients were affected."
Sooo, they were following the Micro$oft business model then?
I hope they throw the book at them. They're basically holding their customers hostage.
[Planned obsolescence] has been happening for generations, where have you been?
It's not always ENTIRELY shenanigans.
For instance: The "design lifetime" in the auto industry is not just about selling another car. It's also about not spending a lot of extra money making, say, the transmission good for 750,000 miles when several other major systems are going to go out at a small fraction of that time. (When you're making several million units a year, saving a nickel each adds up to enough to hire two more full-time engineers to figure out how to do it.)
Making mechanical parts that last can be tough and costly. (And half a century ago it was a lot tougher, without the major advances in materials science since then.) If you design all the parts to last for at least some design lifetime and not much longer you can accumulate a lot of savings. If some major system was going to unavoidably fail shortly after that design lifetime anyhow, having the rest not good for much longer doesn't appreciably affect the utility of the vehicle for the consumer. But the cost savings can be used to lower the price (and grab market share, for a net profit increase) - which DOES help him out significantly.
The ideal in the limit is the "Preacher's marvelous one-horse shay, which lasted a hundred years and all fell apart on the very same day."
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In the US, the corporation, not the people, would be charged with a crime. And then they'd settle with the Government for a fine and no admission of wrongdoing.
It sounds like Spain out-justiced the US this time around.
(Subject line says it all.)
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I live here in Spain and this doesn't surprise me. Meanwhile, back on the ranch, I'm surprised someone managed to program something so reliable they had to code in a time-bomb to make the software fail!
:-)
Spanish coders did that!
I'm proud
(English ex-pat)
some cars have oil change light that only dealer can trun off. But there are other laws that stop the them going to far.
Just wait for the AIR force to get shut off and then this carp will die fast and some may go hidden jail.
The company is CIPSA, is mentionend on the GDT news: https://www.gdt.guardiacivil.es/webgdt at the bottom of the page, under "Detenidos los responsables de comercializar software con "bombas lógicas"
The folks at the obfuscated C contest would like to point out that just because you see the source doesn't mean you'll easily be able to figure out what it's doing.
True.
But it's a lot easier than with a closed source program with the code owned by the crooks.
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How often does anything that looks like an obfuscated C contest entry actually get committed to a repository ?
Check out any project on SourceForge that is written in Perl. :)
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How often does anything that looks like an obfuscated C contest entry actually get committed to a repository ?
It happens all the time where I work. I maintain some old code written by an old hacker (he's got a credit in the K&R book!) Shit like this is not uncommon:
*(&z + z) |= ~tqq + m ? u9 >> 2: 741 | w & 0x8F ? ~(~t11) : foo
... also, I can kill you with my brain.
Sure. And who, exactly, is going to contribute to an open source project written intentionally obfuscated? Nobody. Then the project gets the reputation of being shoddy, and nobody uses it.
Or, there's also the "we'll just rewrite this little obfuscation and fork it" scenario.
Open Source thrives on its quality and dies from crap like this. People don't contribute to dead projects: they fork them or reimplement them.
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I wonder which programmer should be more worried, the one who can't read the above, or the one who can.
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You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Software bombing on a certain date, just so you can charge for "fixing" it is evil.
But that assumes that the software was paid for to start with.
I remember my father adding just this "feature" to the software
of a difficult client that only requested feature upon feature
but had a track record of being months late with their payments
(not very nice if you have a family to feed!)
When the payment was once again long overdue, the client was
faced with a friendly dialog stating that the software was
not paid for yet, and that it would only be re-activated after
payment in full. The payment cleared less than 24 hours later.
It probably would have held up in court, too.
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Here in the US, not only is it not illegal to do that, but several companies hold patents on different ways of doing that. It seems to be heavily encouraged to ass-rape every customer you have ever had here, but there is actually a place where this is not so!!?!?!? EGADS!
Where is the mod rating for "scary"? Also,
First of all: No Spanish worker will call his boss "sir". That's very much anti-Spanish. Just to give you an example: a recent unofficial competition asked Spanish people to come up with lyrics for the Spanish national Anthem (which is lyric-less). One of the candidates had the following text:
"Un jefe muy cabrón / soy un buen español"
Which translates to:
"A very bastard boss / I'm a good Spanish citizen"
Also, we use expletives when giving/receiving bad news. They are solely lacking on your text.
I'd like to point out that the fact that perl allows this kind of aberration doesn't mean it enforces or promotes it.
In fact, that code (or a very similar one) can be written in other languages, such as ruby.
This just points out that the programmer in question had serious issues in understanding fundamental concepts such as maintainability, and was more interested in amusing himself than in doing a professional job.
The credit on K&R doesn't mean a thing if you program like that on a day-to-day basis.
A friend of mine works for a company that sells software to a government department a central African country (I want to keep the details vague to avoid incrimination). After completing the contract and delivering the software, reps arrived one day and simply stated "We're not going to pay full price for the software - we're not making as much money out of it as we thought we would." This country does not have much of a justice system to appeal to if you don't have a politician in your pocket, so my friend's company intentionally released code to make the system stop working if the payments are late. AFAIK that fixed the problem.
I'm just curios if these companies were perhaps faced with a similar situation...
I'd like to call shenanigans on that one. Every car I've owned (GM, VW, Honda, Ford) has pointed out in the owner's manual in clear text how to turn the light off. Usually, you push some button or series of buttons that will turn that light off.
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