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Amazon Opposes Plan To End Saturday Mail Delivery

theodp writes "Online retailer giant Amazon.com has come out against a US Postal Service proposal to end Saturday service, part of efforts to address the USPS budget deficit. 'Amazon's customers have come to appreciate and expect Saturday delivery,' explained Amazon VP Paul Misener. 'If the five-day delivery proposal is not withdrawn,' he added, 'we ask that Congress ensure that Saturday delivery be maintained.' In the past, Amazon has argued that it should not have to help support public services in states in which it has no physical presence." The article adds, "Interestingly, online DVD service Netflix is backing the plan to end Saturday mail delivery, arguing that a 'well functioning' Postal Service is more important than 'maintaining current delivery frequency.'"

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  1. Skip Wednesday instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's generally their junk mail drop with just flyers and other non-addressed answers.

  2. I would make it even more drastic by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And just have alternating days. That way one postal worker can take care of two routes. Let's face it, mail is only going to decrease. So let them do M-W-F on Route 1 and T-Th-Sa on Route 2, and flip that the next week. Express mail can be an exception. Priority mail not so much, depending on logistics.

    The USPS has been good to me and my internet business, so I'd prefer them to do well in return. IMO, this is the only way to really future proof the service. People will bitch but the rest of society just has to adapt, imo.

  3. Why not a weekday? by cmiller173 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would prefer to see them drop say Thursday deliveries and deliver Mon-Wed, Fri-Sat.

  4. Private Industry by Manip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If Amazon wants Saturday delivery for its clients then it can continue to offer it using third parties like FedEx. That is what happens in the UK - you get letters six days a week but only parcels five days a week; if you want parcels on a Saturday then you have to pay a private company to do the delivery which Amazon EU/UK offers.

  5. Re:The difference between Amazon and Netflix by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most of the products I buy from Amazon COULD fit comfortably in a mailbox, but they come in a box about three times bigger than it needs to be. I ordered a map update for my Magellan GPS, it was on an SD card. It came in a SD card caddy, in an envelope, in a big fucking cardboard box. You know, kind of like getting software licenses from HP. And it's a $50 product, it's not like it deserves a big box based on value.

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  6. Re:Neflix != Amazon, and postal service == bad by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The level of service at the post office compared to UPS and Fedex is shockingly bad. Whenever I go into a UPS store there is little to no line.

    I disagree. Any time I've ever had to use UPS I've gotten nothing but terrible service. Anywhere from boxes that look like someone was using them as punching bags (and the stuff inside being broken or damaged in some way), to packages being lost and delayed and the fact that they are too incompetent to just hold a package at the office so you can pick it up.

  7. Re:Neflix != Amazon, and postal service == bad by localman57 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    UPS isn't going to come to your house on a rural route in the backwoods of Kentucky and pick up a piece of shit you wrote, and put it on an airplane to Wyoming for $.44 . (credit to Jon Stewart for that quote). A properly functioning, reliable service that serves 100% of all residents everywhere is vital to a modern economy. Our post office is so good that the legal system considers proof of mailing (not delivery) as proof of service. Live in italy or mexico for 6 months, and you'll get some perspective.

  8. Re:The difference between Amazon and Netflix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We're one of those quick turnaround people. With a 6-day week, we can get a DVD on Wednesday, stick it in the mail Thursday, and get the next on on Saturday. This gives us the weekend to watch that movie and we put it in the mail on Monday, which then gives us another DVD on Wednesday. It's a great routine -- exactly 2 DVD's a week on the same days and one of them to watch every weekend. Taking out Saturday would certainly change things.

  9. Re:The difference between Amazon and Netflix by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Go back to your order, and leave packing feedback. Amazon has a nice form letting you vent about ridiculously-sized boxes.

    Ever since they began collecting that data, I've noticed that my Amazon orders do seem to come in more appropriately-sized boxes (although they do still occasionally go ridiculously overboard). Their Frustration Free Packaging initiative is also great for consumers and the environment alike.

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  10. Re:Neflix != Amazon, and postal service == bad by raddan · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I agree, as someone who has to ship a lot of stuff around as a part of my job, we've tried a number of couriers, and I think we have a pretty good fell for the quality (timeliness, damage, convenience) of many of them. Here's what we found:
    1. FedEx, far and away the best, but expensive
    2. USPS, not always on time, but mostly reliable; premium services don't compare with FedEx; tracking isn't great
    3. UPS, usually on time, and has lots of premium services, but theft and damage are MAJOR problems. They will happily deliver a package to a wrong address (i.e., THEY got it wrong), and when that package is stolen, they will disclaim all responsibity. Their "insurance" is a fucking joke-- they have weaseled out of paying every claim we've filed.
    4. DHL is pathetic. They once cheerfully delivered a package to me that had a hole straight through the package and the contents inside. We had to request one our suppliers never use them again.
  11. Re:The difference between Amazon and Netflix by Golddess · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I could be mistaken, but I believe the last time I looked at one of those blue drop boxes near me, Sunday was not listed as a pickup day for that box. So it's reasonable to assume that if they dropped Saturday deliveries, they might also drop Saturday pickups from those drop boxes.

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  12. Re:The difference between Amazon and Netflix by hoboroadie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Some of us non-Sabbath-Keepers find Saturday delivery useful and productive. I've had problems with delivery drivers (particularly the pinheads from the USPS) over-ruling my request for packages to be left on the porch when no one is home, and causing delays in production due to untimely delivery. On Saturdays I stand a better chance of stopping them before they leave with my stuff.

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  13. Re:USPS isn't a State Function by fermat1313 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why should Amazon pay for police or firefighters in states where they don't have a business presence?

    Because Amazon wouldn't be paying sales tax. They are just collecting tax from the customers on behalf of the state. It's the customers who are paying for services in their local area. Amazon doesn't have a problem with collecting taxes because they think they shouldn't have to pay for services, since sales taxes are always passed on to the customer. Amazon has a problem with it because not collecting sales tax gives them a huge (upwards of 10% in some areas) price advantage over local retailers.