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Knuth Plans 'Earthshaking Announcement' Wednesday

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Donald Knuth is planning to make an 'earthshaking announcement' on Wednesday, at TeX's 32nd Anniversary Celebration, on the final day of the TUG 2010 Conference. Unfortunately, nobody seems to know what it is. So far speculation ranges from proving P!=NP, to a new volume of The Art of Computer Programming, to his retirement. Maybe Duke Nukem Forever has been ported to MMIX?" Let the speculation begin.

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  1. It's a TeX conference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So it probably TeX related. I don't see Knuth going off topic so much. Of course, the TeX engine is earth in that community, so who knows?

    1. Re:It's a TeX conference by fendragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean... someone's found a bug in it?

  2. Re:P!=NP by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    unless of course, your Albert Einstein, Galileo, Marie Curie, Niels Bohr, Ernst Ruska, or any number of other important members of the scientific community throughout the centuries. many of these people did not provide 'breakthroughs until well into there 30's, and most of them continued to provide useful advances in science well into there later years.

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  3. Re:P!=NP by afidel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Einsteins miracle year was when he was 22.

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  4. Re:P!=NP by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...And most people can speak without the aid of a speech synthesizer and can move around that have brilliant minds, yet that doesn't stop Stephen Hawking.

    We can make trends all we want but the fact is, every human is different, trends only help somewhat but there are more people who break the trend that do extraordinary work than those who follow it.

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  5. Re:P!=NP by LongearedBat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Breakthrough proofs tend to be completed by kids in their early to mid 20's, it's when the brain is still plastic enough for truly out of the box thinking but where enough knowledge has been gathered to actually work on the hard problems.

    Perhaps also because they actually have the opportunity.

    Older people, who may still be plenty capable while having much more experience, seldom have the opportunity (due to mortgage, family, etc.)
    Almost all incentives are given to youth (which makes sense). But older people seldom get a break. I think this, more than anything else, is what causes peoples brains to go stale.

  6. Re:Who? by c0d3g33k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Makes me wonder why anyone would assume everyone on ./ knows who he is, what he's done, or why we should care what he has to announce...

    Seriously? To draw a comparison, it's like being a geneticist and not knowing who Gregor Mendel is. Or a physicist/mathematician and drawing a blank when Sir Isaac Newton's name comes up. You could be a philosopher who has never heard of Aristotle or Plato. Or a FLOSS developer who has never heard of Richard Stallman. A game developer who has never heard of John Carmack. I could go on, but I'm not sure I could find a good stopping point and I'm fighting the impulse to just be insulting. Your ignorance is appalling. Please just smash your computer with a sledgehammer and go for a long walk on a short pier.

  7. Re:P!=NP by c0d3g33k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Acting as an advocate for these people with your spelling, grammar and punctuation skills takes irony to epic levels.

  8. Re:Who? by turing_m · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I talked to a guy in Saint Louis once who was a genetic engineer for Monsanto. He didn't believe in evolution.

    Not that surprising. Being capable of sustaining epic levels of cognitive dissonance would be needed to be able to work for Monsanto and sleep at night.

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  9. It's highly unlikely to be P!=NP... by Shaterri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So far as I know, Knuth has done essentially zero work related to the P/NP question; a lot of algorithmics and tons of fantastic work in combinatorics, but I can't think of a single significant result he's contributed to complexity theory. While it's not impossible that he could have some sort of 'outsider breakthrough', it seems almost infinitesimally unlikely given the mathematical context and techniques that have had to be developed for similar complexity problems. My money would be on either a formal open-sourcing of the TeX codebase or the development of a full HTML5 rendering engine for TeX along the lines of the system that mathoverflow.net uses.

  10. Re:I speculate... by sheriff_p · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Remember when we were all agog about Linus working for some breakthrough company that was going to change everything forever, and in fact, was just TransMeta?

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  11. Re:Who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes it has, actually.

    You just aren't equipped to recognize that fact.

  12. Re:Who? by Toonol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I learned how to program outside of academia, and have read Knuth. Independent study should still involve some modicum of actual study.

  13. Re:Who? by terjeber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You missed the car analogy. It'd be like a car enthusiast who's never heard of Ford. You always have to have a car analogy. It's the law!

  14. Re:I'll bet it's that by bickerdyke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What about TeX stopping to use this unreadable syntax and moving to xml?

    As much as I like this whole "compile your text to different outputs"-thing and the results of TeX layout, the markup language is a PITA!

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  15. Re:P!=NP by Sique · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That age may well be when he had his insight on the speed of light being constant and time being malleable, though the actual work of course only just started.

    The insight that the speed of light is constant is somewhat older and goes back to James Clerk Maxwell, whose equations are based on a constant speed of light. The only thing that was not clear was if the speed of light is also constant under cosmic conditions. The series of Michelson's experiments to find variances in the speed of light started in 1881, and in 1892 Hendrik Antoon Lorentz in collaboration with Henri Poincaré published the Lorentz Ether Theory including the basic mathematics of Special Relativity.

    Albert Einstein's genius was thus not to postulate the constant speed of light in vacuum, or the time- and distance contractions resulting from there, but the abolishment of the ether as medium for the light.

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  16. Re:Who? by Bromskloss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I talked to a guy in Saint Louis once who was a genetic engineer for Monsanto. He didn't believe in evolution.

    I don't think it's obvious that he would. I'm sure he believes that traits can be inherited and that by selecting who gets to reproduce, you can steer the new generations into having certain qualities, like breeding dogs to have long ears or whatever you fancy. Believing in evolution, on the other hand, would be to hold the position that the current plants and animals are the result of such a process, where the selection has been carried out by naturally occurring circumstances. Embracing evolution implies embracing genetics, but not the other way around.

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  17. Re:Who? by mcvos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's pathetic that you think nobody else can think for themselves or come up with their own ideas and breakthroughs.

    Do you honestly think that you can come up with the kind of breakthroughs that have been done in CS over the past 60 years without reading some of the literature?

    Sure, if you write some simple scripts or basic applications, you don't need to know much about algorithms, but once you start messing about with algorithms and datastructures, it pays to at least have heard of Knuth.

  18. Re:I'll bet it's that by bickerdyke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I actually like how LaTeX is not WYSIWYG. Concentrating on content and then finally compile it into something ready for a professional Printshop, so I'm nor arguing on that or a general markup system.

    It may be a personal thing, but I prefer the clarity of XML. I already gave a few examples of the inconsistencies of TeX markup a few postings down.

    <foo> ALWAYS starts a block and </foo> ALWAYS ends one. And there is no other way to start a block, and no such thing as a lone opening tag. (just a way to abbreviate empty blocks)

    Special Characters ALWAYS start with & and you know you can read on until the ;

    LaTeX has fantastic results, mut the markup has no logic whatsoever!

    why is it \begin{document} and \begin{center}, but \section{title} and NOT \begin{section} ? So I not only have to remember the keywords, but also tons of stuff about their usage!

    And it is NOT easy to read for humans when half of the quotation marks actually start quotes, but the other half marks umlauts!

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  19. Re:TeX by WillAdams · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, the Bible says that if one builds a bowl w/ a certain outside diameter and a certain wall thickness, the inside circumference will be such that pi is ~3.14:

    http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm

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