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MS Design Lets You Put Batteries In Any Way You Want

jangel writes "While its strategy for mobile devices might be a mess, Microsoft has announced something we'll all benefit from. The company's patented design for battery contacts will allow users of portable devices — digital cameras, flashlights, remote controls, toys, you name it — to insert their batteries in any direction. Compatible with AA and AAA cells, among others, the 'InstaLoad' technology does not require special electronics or circuitry, the company claims."

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  1. Re:Did Microsoft REALLY just patent the diode brid by twisting_department · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not Prior Art if it uses electronics, diodes etc. This is purely mechanical. I think it's the most brilliant thing Microsoft has ever come up with. Patent worthy? Quite possibly in my mind.

  2. What to work on next. by bob_jordan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats one of lifes great problems solved. Any chance they can work on Windows stability next?

    Bob.

    1. Re:What to work on next. by Zemplar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thats one of lifes great problems solved. Any chance they can work on Windows stability next?

      Bob.

      What, are you kidding? They want a solvable problem to work on!

    2. Re:What to work on next. by hedwards · · Score: 4, Funny

      What are you talking about? I recently put a Win XP disc into a solvent and it did indeed dissolve. Therefore XP must be solvable.

  3. An actual patent by White+Flame · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For once, we're hearing about an authentically clever, afaik new physical design which solves a real problem and is actually sanely applicable to be patented. I wasn't expecting that when I clicked on this story. Gotta hand it to Microsoft for this one.

    1. Re:An actual patent by NekSnappa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't see this a solving as "real problem" either. But you lost me on that "dumbing down the public" bit.

      I mean really. If you want to go there I'm sure that there are plenty of people competently doing tasks using modern computers that they wouldn't be able to do if all they had was an abacus. So is that dumbing down the public as well?

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  4. Re:Did Microsoft REALLY just patent the diode brid by daid303 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I suggest you learn a bit more about electronics. Diodes have a voltage drop, 0.7V for normal diodes, schottky diodes go as low as 0.2V, but that's still a lot if you get only 1.2V to 1.5V from your battery.

    And the summery clearly states that it is without circuitry. Which is not that hard to imagine if you LATFPITFA.

  5. Re:And in other news... by sammyF70 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I did the unthinkable and read TFA. They are not trying to patent the diode, they came up with a completely stupidly simple *mechanical* system which really allows to put the batteries in any direction you want without checking the polarity. it's one of the "so simple anybody could have thought of it" patents, and I must confess that I am actually impressed by its simplicity.

    For once I must say "well done, Microsoft" (sadly I'm not really anticipating repeating that sentence all too often)

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  6. Re:Did Microsoft REALLY just patent the diode brid by jamesh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sometimes the stuff you learn in basic electronics can be really useful. In this case though it just made you look like a dick. RTFA.

  7. Now if only... by jamesh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now if only someone could invent something that would stop my wife putting non-rechargable batteries in my charger and blowing them up. She said it was an accident... I just think she likes the explosions.

    1. Re:Now if only... by Andrewkov · · Score: 5, Funny

      How is she getting through so many batteries??

  8. Re:Dodge this by Animaether · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is specifically for battery compartments with a physical parallel configuration, rather than a series configuration.
    ( 'physical configuration' as in the batteries laying side-by-side, rather than end-to-end, so the batteries' poles never directly touch eachother; unrelated to the electrical circuitry's configuration )

    I'm trying to recall the last time I've seen a physical series configuration; but I just realized my old-ass flashlight counts as one.
    ( it's been replaced years ago by a proper wind-up for emergency cases and a decent Maglite-like one with a rechargable set for more frequent/high intensity beam use )

  9. This is best invention from Microsoft ever. by twisting_department · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to say it again. This is the most brilliant invention Microsoft has ever come up with. It fixes an every day niggle that every one has just accepted for decades. It's dead obvious but no one thought of it before (I assume so far). Perfect candidate for a patent. And for all those who don't read articles: No it does not uses diodes, it's purely mechanical therefore does not drop any battery voltage or waste power like a bridge would. It's probably as cheap to make as regular battery contacts. Just hope it is as reliable as normal contacts. Brilliant I say. Well done Microsoft. I always thought you had some innovation in you somewhere.

    1. Re:This is best invention from Microsoft ever. by petermgreen · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's probably as cheap to make as regular battery contacts.
      It won't be, it requires more peices of material in the contacts themselves (twice as many contacts plus an extra insulating peice) and more wiring (since you have to take both the positive and negative leads to both ends of each battery slot).

      BTW you can make contacts that protect against damge from backwards insertion far simpler (and i've seen them in equipment) just by shaping the plastic right at the positive end (basically you put the positive contact inside a slot so the flat negative end can't touch it). The only advantage of these new contacts over that style is that they allow things to work both ways round.

      Just hope it is as reliable as normal contacts.
      Indeed I have two main concerns with this

      1: reliability, how long will these fancy contacts last.

      2: failure modes, when normal battery contacts fail they tend to fail by just not making good contact, they can then be cleaned, bent back into shape etc. This thing looks like it could easilly fail in a way that shorts out the battery and looks like it would be difficult to fix poor contacts without ruining the mechanism.

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  10. Re:Dodge this by jamesh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's say it use 2 batteries and the user place them like this

    [- +}{+ -]

    Well... doesn't look like it's going to work...

    Just when Microsoft thought they'd built the ultimate idiot proof device, nature comes along with a better idiot.

    To be fair though, those sort of devices are less common, and it's easier to spot when you've got it wrong (two batteries nose to nose or tail to tail is more obviously wrong than a single battery in backwards).

  11. Re:And in other news... by Animaether · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's one of the "so simple anybody could have thought of it" patents

    I remember *some* devices that, instead of the cheap flat plate (positive contact) and spring (negative contact) configuration, had the housing built in such a manner that for the negative plate (which was semi-springy) it was full width, while for the positive plate it was shielded by the housing to just slightly over the width of the protruding positive contact of the AA/AAA battery.

    That way, the battery could only be inserted one way. It solves the same big problem of inserting batteries the wrong way around and either the device not working, or worse.

    It doesn't solve the "I wish I could put the battery either which way around so I don't have to use my square-peg-in-round-hole 18-month-old brain" problem, though - and it's still a fairly clever design. Now to see how well it holds up in mass production where tolerances of fitting such things in the housings are often seen as +-2mm and everything moves, twists and turns.

  12. Re:Did Microsoft REALLY just patent the diode brid by aliquis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well when reading the news item as in "no electronics needed" how many people on Slashdot came up with the same idea in their head before reading the article? It's rather obvious how it could be done but yeah, many patentable things are. I just think it's sad people can patent such crap/simple stuff. Especially since many others could come up with a very similar product from just wanting to solve the same problem, and the patent would most likely cover that solution to.

    I assume there's a reason it's not used already. Such as: It's not that hard to put the battery in correctly in the first place and maybe the connectors worn out faster / get bent more easily / touches by accident/moist/..

  13. One problem tho.. by The+Creator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Users will be looking at these abiguos contacs and not be able to figure out which way to insert their batteries.

    (No it doesn't help that any way will do if the user doesn't know it.)

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  14. Re:Pretty proud, eh? by ragefan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They even made a logo for it.

    So instead of just paying attention to whether the batteries are in correctly, they'll have to first pay attention to whether the device matters which way that batteries go.

  15. Battery location for morons by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps Apple should patent their 'batteries not changeable by yourself because you are morons' system too.

  16. Re:Dodge this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but I just realized my old-ass flashlight counts as one.
    ( it's been replaced years ago by a proper wind-up for emergency cases and a decent Maglite-like one with a rechargable set for more frequent/high intensity beam use )

    Thanks a lot

  17. Re:Did Microsoft REALLY just patent the diode brid by k2r · · Score: 4, Funny

    >And Sun Tzu also Said

    It's Oracle Tzu now and it's not a strategic product anymore, you insensitive clod!

  18. Re:Do You Think... by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So when I'm outside at night I'm stupid because I can't read the polarity "written" by embossing the black plastic my device is made of?

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