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The 'Back' Button the Most Clicked Firefox Icon

darthcamaro writes "How many times did you click the 'Back' button in your browser last week? According to a new study from Mozilla, it's likely that you clicked 'Back' a whole lot. 'Across Windows, Mac and Linux 93.1 percent of users clicked the button at least once over the course of a five-day period. In total the study reported that users clicked on the back button 66 times over the course of five days. The next most used button is the 'Reload' button with 73.2 percent usage and 22 clicks on average per user over five days. Other areas of the main window that were heavily used include the Search Bar where users input search queries. The study found that 67.9 percent of users used the Search Bar for an average of nearly 16 clicks per user over the course of five days.'"

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  1. Why it was made big by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Old news. This is why they made it bigger in 3.0.

    1. Re:Why it was made big by Shin-LaC · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I never use the back button. I hate having to wait for pages to load/render/whatever, so I got in the habit long ago of opening most links in new tabs so they load while I'm reading something else.

    2. Re:Why it was made big by spazdor · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sometimes links won't open in a new tab because they're implemented with some Flash and/or Javascript fuckery. When this happens, I just regular-click on the link and then middle-click on the 'back' button - thereby opening up the previous page in a new tab instead.

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    3. Re:Why it was made big by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hate Back taking ages cos it's reloading the screen. It's in memory - just show what you showed last time. I don't care that it might have changed. No, I don't want you to resend the message - just show me the bloody page you showed me just seconds ago before I accidentally clicked/changed my mind.

    4. Re:Why it was made big by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If I had mod points, I would have modded you up purely for using the word fuckery. Bravo.

    5. Re:Why it was made big by ircmaxell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nor me. I use a 5 button trackball at work (back, left, wheel, right, forward), and my Lenovo laptop has dedicated forward and back buttons. And before that, I installed gesture support (Right click and drag left to go back, drag right to go forward). Seriously, I don't understand how people use the actual button on the top of the screen...

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    6. Re:Why it was made big by voodoowizard · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ahhh wow, I never tried that middle mouse button... damn that is nice. You just opened up a new world for me and I have been using FF for years. Learning is fun.

    7. Re:Why it was made big by mysidia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, but oftentimes with the flash quackery, the back button doesn't work anyways.

      Breaking the back button is one of the most serious design mistakes a webmaster can make. Since, as we can see from just these observations about FF, the back button is one of the most frequently used functions by a large majority of surfers.

    8. Re:Why it was made big by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And why Microsoft decided to make the thumb buttons on their mice act like "back" and "forward" by default

      Now if only that could be disabled... I love my big ol' sidewinder, but those huge honking buttons that are so useful when I'm killing things in Cantha turn into a HUGE liability when I'm browsing the web and they tap against the edge of my keyboard. =\

      I really hate that...

    9. Re:Why it was made big by mysidia · · Score: 2

      When I refer to flash quackery, I am not talking about legitimate web applications.

      I am talking about web pages which are basically web pages for presenting mostly static information, and they seem to use flash just to use flash

      And break the back button by introducing solely flash based navigational elements.

      Obviously if you have a complex web application that has a very good reason for the back button not to go back to an identical page you navigated from, that's OK.

      Actually, it's plenty for it to just go to the same major document you came from.

      Or if there's some dynamic auto-refreshing content, it makes sense that would be updated and no longer the same.

      That's not what I am talking about.

      I am talking about corporate web sites that have say an "About Us link"... you click that, and it displays text in-line in the page.

      If you push 'back' after doing that, it doesn't go back to the homepage you started at, it sends you back to Google search results (for example).

      Another example of breaking the back button, is you click a site on search results... decide you don't like it and want to leave.. you press back, and it Redirects you straight to the home page.

      You press back again.... well, it redirects you to the home page AGAIN!

      Because the link listed on Google search results goes to a page that just automatically redirects you to the home page instantly.

      So then you got to go dick around with your back button history list to bypass the brokenness...

    10. Re:Why it was made big by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I just press backspace, doesn't that do the same??

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  2. Or... by deesine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's the most used gesture: Right button down, drag left.

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    1. Re:Or... by gencha · · Score: 2, Informative

      With Mouse Gestures Redox you just have to hold the right mouse button and click the left one.

  3. Re:Uhhhh by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just using Mozilla Test Piliot add-on.

  4. Re:Uhhhh by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Informative

    How exactly could you know the answer to your query? Well by RTFA of course!

    The study data was collected on an opt-in basis from nearly 10,000 users of the Mozilla Test Pilot addon which surveys Firefox usage.

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  5. IE by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

    For Internet Explorer, Ctrl+Alt+Delete is tops

    1. Re:IE by Anachragnome · · Score: 5, Funny

      "For Internet Explorer, Ctrl+Alt+Delete is tops"

      That is almost as bad as setting my Hunter's Feign Death hotkey in Warcraft to Alt-F4...and not testing it until the 4th boss fight in Black Temple.

  6. Re:Uhhhh by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Depends on what they want to test. Here is a list so far: https://testpilot.mozillalabs.com/testcases/

  7. Re:O: by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or three finger swipe on a Mac.

  8. I didn't click any ... by siddesu · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm using Vimperator, you insensitive clod!

  9. Zero Times by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Funny

    Zero times, I use vimperator.
    I don't need to move my hands from the keyboard like some ape.

    1. Re:Zero Times by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Funny

      Good, you can be used to round up others of your kind when I wish to cook and eat your men or mate with your women.

    2. Re:Zero Times by X0563511 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I get the joke, but the reason I do it: it helps keep my RSI under control.

      If I were to use a mouse and keyboard all day at work, and then do the same at home, I'd be in a load of pain after a day or two.

      Going left-handed at work and right-handed at home seems to keep it under control. It's also helped my left-hand coordination. I was fairly ambidextrous before, but at this point the only thing I can't do well is write. That's less a matter of handedness and more of practice (I never even try) and writing-direction issue (stabbing paper doesn't work too well, if you write right-handed you drag the tip, not push it)

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  10. Self-contradictory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The heatmap will be updated over the course of the Firefox 4 beta program. Hopefully, this visualization will help us understand how the various UI changes affect user behavior, and ensure that these design decisions are in fact improving the product for our (beloved) end-users."

    "Now that we know how users are using FF3, we can figure out how to pessimize FF4's UI. It'll look like Office's Ribbon, or Chrome, or Opera, but whatever it is, it won't look or feel anything like FF3. But it'll look good on our resumes when we can say we're up on all the hot new UI trends, even though everyone's flaming us for them. And we'll make sure to use little icons for everything instead of words, because then we don't have as much stuff to translate when it comes time to localize the product."

    Sorry if I sound like a curmudgeon, but UI these days seems more about mental masturbation and keeping up with the Joneses than actually taking a good product and making it better. The first couple of months of any major Firefox upgrade has consisted of nothing more than figuring out what they changed, and which about:config settings I need to tweak in order to change it back to something I found usable.

    1. Re:Self-contradictory? by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. I know better than anyone else what I find useable. A good UI should have sane defaults and be customizable to what I need. Once I configure it properly, it should not change. UI designers should focus on giving us as many options as possible, and setting them to sane defaults.

      In any case, horribly broken defaults that can be customized to something I like is far, far better than moderately acceptable defaults that cannot be customized at all.

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  11. Because it's in the upper-left? by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I informally studied the habits of websurfers at my websites with Google Analytics. I found that for almost every page, the most clicked link was whatever I put at the top left.

    My hypothesis was that our eyes were just drawn to any graphic at the top left, no matter what it was, and so we'd click on it.

    I'd be interested to see some behavioral UI studies about this.

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    1. Re:Because it's in the upper-left? by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you have the causation backwards. They put the most useful button in the upper left because that's where it's easier to find it.

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    2. Re:Because it's in the upper-left? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

      My hypothesis was that our eyes were just drawn to any graphic at the top left, no matter what it was, and so we'd click on it.

      I have a Google Adwords block on my personal website. Up until a month ago, the ad had been on the top right corner of the screen. I was playing around and moved it to the top left.

      From January 1 to June 1, I had x hits, y clicks, and made $z in ad income.

      From June 1 to July 1, I had almost exactly x/5 hits; I served 1.03 times more hits during that month than I had per average in the last five months. I also had .54*y clicks that month, or 2.71 times as many clicks per average month. Finally, I earned 1.42*$z last month, or 7.11 times per month as much as during the first five months. Of the top 20 highest-earning days in the last 5 years, 6 were in the last month.

      Let me repeat that: changing almost nothing but the ad placement from top-right to top-left increased my click-through rate 171% and my monthly ad income by 611%, on almost the exact same number of hits.

      Yeah, I'd have to agree with you.

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    3. Re:Because it's in the upper-left? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When your deep inside the bowels of a website and want to return to the home page - guess where you typically click - yep, the logo at the location of the defacto standard home page location

      You are sacrificing your own customers for money - it's up to you if it's worth it or not.

      Good point, except that you're wrong. The customary top-left "home logo" is still there. I just moved the navigation sidebar (with the ad at the top) from the right side of the page to the left.

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  12. Two types of users by ascari · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Read once in a web usability design book that there are two types of users: The ones who are search oriented and the ones that are navigation oriented. Search oriented users use a search engine instead of the browsers navigation bar and the browsers back and forward buttons instead of the web site navigation and links. Navigation oriented users use the browsers navigation bar and the web sites navigation links.

    Of course that's an oversimplification but if that's even remotely true (which I don't know if it is) the high frequency of back button use indicates that there are a lot of search oriented users out there. And if that's the case most web sites are designed poorly or plainly wrong from their usability perspective. What I mean is that in-site navigation is a heavy part of most web sites when it really shouldn't be. Instead web design should promote the use of in-site search and back button use.

  13. Re:O: by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Multitouch is amazing. I'd say get a Mac just for that, if I hadn't heard that windows 7 has some gestures, too. Mac has a decent gesture vocabulary, but they really need some way for you to define your own, too, especially as many applications don't support the full vocabulary.

    At any rate, I love my "giant" (or as I now refer to it, "the right size") trackpad. The new iMacs should've come with a USB multitouch pad instead of the new mouse.

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  14. Huh by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would have thought Slashdot's 'submit' button would have been the one most clicked in Firefox.

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  15. This thread surprises me by Zouden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Do you all just use the 3-button mouse that came with your Dell? Back and forward buttons have been common on mice for the last decade. Why click a toolbar button when you can just use your thumb?

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    1. Re:This thread surprises me by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Note to self: Find the guy who invented tear-off tabs and tear his tab off. I clicked on the damn tab and moved the mouse down so I could highlight some text, and the fucking thing popped open a new goddamn window. WTF? Fuck mouse gestures.)

      let's instead find the guy who decided to implement tear-off tabs without a checkbox to disable them, and check his box until he's disabled.

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  16. Re:I hope this doesn't guide programming decisions by SmlFreshwaterBuffalo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Screen real estate is valuable, and knowing how often buttons are used tells you which ones to make easily accessible and which ones can be buried.

    When it comes to UI's, "most clicked" should absolutely be equated to "most valuable". Doing otherwise could result in a horrid design where the simplest tasks require very convoluted and excessive steps.

  17. and in other news by rossdee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the F2 key is the most used key in Solitaire

  18. Re:Context menu by Reziac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Likewise...

    Except when the entire visible area is an image, in which case there IS no "back" on the context menu, thanks to a moronic decision back when Mozilla was new, and that persists today across the entire Moz-based family.

    Seems the lead programmer thought there was too much "clutter" on the context menu, so removed "back" when the pointer was over an image. There was a huge outcry in the MozDev newsgroup, and a vote of 701 to 2 (yes, real numbers) to restore it, but his response was essentially "*I* like it this way, so fuck you. Moz isn't meant for end users anyway." (I witnessed this exchange in the newsgroup myself.)

    Someone made a patch to address the deficiency, but it was not widely distributed and seems lost to history. Perhaps someone will see fit to recreate it, for those of us who curse this decision on a daily basis (but not being coders, have no way to fix it).

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  19. Re:But what's really interesting... by Threni · · Score: 3, Funny

    > Erm, that's an average of 66 clicks per user I'd imagine.

    He's no statistician.

  20. Re:But what's really interesting... by stjobe · · Score: 2, Informative

    Since the study was made with a Firefox plugin, I think you'll find that 100% of the Windows, Mac and Linux users in the study use Firefox.

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  21. That's because ... by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... there's no "OMG! My eyes!" button.

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  22. Re:People use the search bar? by Daneurysm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use Opera with an extremely minimalist setup. No nav buttons no search bars, just thin unobtrusive tabs and address bar. My mouse has back and forward buttons. I know where my F5 key is. To google I just right-click a word and search that (with google as my default search engine) or, more often, I just type "g [search term]", sans quotes and brackets obviously--in the address bar.

    Though Chrome makes it one step easier by making anything that's not a properly formed URL into a search term, I still don't like Chrome compared to Opera....that DNS prefetch is terribly inconsistent.

  23. Re:Mouse "Thumb" button? by mysidia · · Score: 2, Insightful

    3 button optical mice where the center button is a scroll wheel are still very common.

    Actually, I rarely see anyone with a mouse that has more than 3 buttons. I don't think most computer users have what you are referring to. /p

  24. Someone tell the Safari UI designer by matrixskp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd like to personally meet the guy that moved the reload button from the tool bar and put it in address field way off to the right of Safari. They also removed it from the customizable buttons so it HAS to be there. That was the day before I started using Firefox as my number one browser.