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Russia's Unmanned Capsule Misses Space Station

mikesd81 writes "Russia's unmanned cargo ship Progress 38 missed docking with the ISS and sailed right on by it instead of docking on autopilot. A telemetry lock between the Russian-made Progress module and the space station was lost and the module flew past at a safe distance. NASA said the crew was never in danger and that the supplies are not critical and will not affect station operations. There will be no other attempts at docking today, and the orbit of the module raises questions of any other attempts again. Packed aboard the spacecraft are 1,918 pounds of propellant for the station, 110 pounds of oxygen, 220 pounds of water and 2,667 pounds of dry cargo — which includes spare parts, science equipment and other supplies."

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  1. Re:It's time to deliver a space tug to the station by jdigriz · · Score: 5, Informative

    The space tug was one of the first things that was cancelled in the space station program http://www.astronautix.com/craft/otv.htm We're doing this whole space station thing in such a half-assed manner because approximately half of the people in Congress would dearly like to see the entire thing cancelled (and this is not a vote along party lines). They try at every chance to kill the thing outright but it's always so far been saved at the last moment (with subtantial cuts) in a political compromise. And the thing about a compromise is that it's a solution that no one is happy with, ie, half-assed. That's the main reason. The other reason is that the station is in LEO, and thus is subject to significant atmospheric drag via the attenuated atmostphere. It's not a permanent orbit. Within a few years at most, without periodic reboosts (which cost fuel), the station would reenter the atmosphere and burn up. The primary reason that the station is in such a low orbit relates to the quality of the launchers we had to launch it. Without a Saturn V class, we had no real capability to project more mass than a telecom satellite to a significantly higher orbit. The Clarke orbit is filled with junk from dead comsats, so it's unsuitable for permanent habitation even if we could reach it with so much mass. And the area between LEO and GEO is mostly unreachable by the supply and personnel rockets we had with significant payload. So basically, the reason this station program is so half-assed can be laid at the feet of the people who killed the Saturn V. Skylab was launched in 1 launch. The ISS took dozens to be mostly complete.

  2. Re:It's time to deliver a space tug to the station by socz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So what happens when the space shuttles are all retired and we only have apollo-era capsules that we can send up with a breath-taking-fall-back-to-earth? Not dissing you, but the U.S. really bit the bag on this one. The shuttles are one of the best assets the U.S. has. Literally, no one else on earth has *anything* close to it. What a shame.

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  3. Re:Oxygen fuel and water aren't critical? by NNKK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's called being prepared. The ISS is kept well-stocked and the loss of a single resupply run is expensive but not operationally critical.

  4. Re:Right... by Firehed · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, not technically. But international data rates to the space station are a bitch. /only half-joking

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  5. Re:Oxygen fuel and water aren't critical? by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not as much as the milk, holly is going to have to put those poor bastards on the dog's milk now.

  6. Re:Oxygen fuel and water aren't critical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why?

    No bugger'll drink it.

  7. Re:It's time to deliver a space tug to the station by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Informative

    Trey Parker and Matt Stone were both born in the USA.

    Skylab was a lab in space before the space shuttle. Salyut 1 was before that, but it had two missions that both failed. Soyuz 10 that could not board due to fire and Soyuz 11 that crew died on rentry do to a lab. Shuttles are pointless ISS could have been lifted by cheaper and safer rockets.

    You seem to be wrong on all accounts.

  8. Re:Can't believe they still use pounds by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the fuck are you talking about? Pounds is debatable but kilograms always means mass. Things have mass in space.

    If you are smart enough to think that you know the difference between mass and weight, then you sure as shit should be smart enough to know that kilograms is a measure of mass.

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