Opera 10.60 Released, With Faster JS, WebM Video Support
teh31337one writes "Four short months after Opera 10.50, the latest version of Opera's lightweight web browser has been released. It not only claims to be the fastest browser, but also the first final browser with WebM video support. It's available for Windows, Mac and Linux." Update: 07/04 21:53 GMT by T : Headline updated to reflect that this is Opera 10.60, rather than 10.6. Thanks to the readers who spotted this goof.
Opera brags about this, but my experience is that it's generally quirky in comparison to other browsers (not IE) with valid (X)HTML/CSS. For instance, W3 specs say that a blockquote should be rendered with equal whitespace before and after (link here) , yet Opera won't give it any whitespace in a after the closing blockquote tag. This breaks the appearance of many sites, including imageboards.
Why should I care about a non-extensible browser that does some artificial benchmarks a millisecond faster? Not trolling, I'm trying to figure out what practical benefit Opera has for its users.
Can you post some screenshots of this problem? I have never noticed it before. My suspicion is that you're using a proxy or some filtering software that's damaging the HTML that Opera is subsequently displaying.
Not trolling, I'm trying to figure out what practical benefit Opera has for its users.
The 80-20 rule, 80% of the benefit of Firefox with 20% of the effort fiddling with all the extensions. Firefox without any extensions at all is a poorer browser than Opera, and I got better things do to than to custom design my browser.
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Opera used to cost money. Then they switched to an ad-supported shareware model (no ads if you paid). Then they went free (as on $0) on the desktop and brought in the revenue by licensing to mobile phones, consoles, etc. That worked when smartphones were neglected and the only other option was IE mobile. But these days, WebKit is used by (or will be used by) pretty much everyone except Microsoft (who are on the verge of irrelevance). And Mozilla might, someday, gain traction with their mobile browser.
Who is going to pay for Opera when they can use WebKit or Fennec for free? They don't have the google ad revenue that Mozilla has. They don't have a sugar daddy like IE or WebKit.
It doesn't matter how good their browser is, their business model is dead and their days are numbered.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I'm trying to figure out what practical benefit Opera has for its users.
Of all browsers I've tried, it has the most customizable keybindings, and, in general, the single best implementation of keyboard-only browsing.
(Yes, I've tried the Firefox plugins which promised the same. They're not on par.)
On the whole, though, Opera doesn't have a single major killer feature. Rather, it's a combination of little (and obvious, come to think of it) things, each of which makes your life that much easier - and no-one else offers the entire set in one box. For example, Opera is the only browser I know of which lets you submit a form to a new tab, background tab etc (same keyboard modifiers when clicking submit button as for links).
You can thank idiots who do browser sniffing the wrong way for that.
If you're doing browser sniffing you're already doing it the wrong way.
It's official. Most of you are morons.
Perhaps, but who cares? Let those sites break. Sites should display identically on every browser and adhere to all standards, not utilizing any browser qwirks. If they don't they are badly designed pages, plain and simple. It's not the browser's responsibility to compensate for an incompetent web developer.
Ask their geek friends who read Slashdot.
...they fucking removed options that I prefer. I want the tab bar to go away if I only have one tab open. GIVE ME MY SCREEN SPACE! Also, let me get rid of the background image of the speed dial.
That said, unlike past upgrades which made changes that can only be characterized as "feeling different", I noticed no negative ones this time around. Feels a bit more stable and a little more spry.
I still want to have the tab bar hide though.
Sounds like local problems, I find myself utterly amazed at how fast pages are loading in 10.60.
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This is hilarious.
People like you have been predicting Opera's demise for 15 years. And for some reason, Opera is still around, and not only, that, but it's thriving. They just reported having more than 120 million users globally, up from 100 million a few months ago.
They're pulling in major deals with the likes of AT&T, Sony, Nintendo, Verizon, etc. all the time.
They're profitable, have a large cash reserve, and are even buying up other companies.
The fact is that the only people who are saying that Opera is doomed are the ignorant ones who haven't a clue about the market. You whine about a web server in the browser without understanding why they are doing it, for example. Hint: they have an actual strategy behind it. You just haven't bothered to educate yourself about it.
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