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Opera 10.60 Released, With Faster JS, WebM Video Support
teh31337one writes "Four short months after Opera 10.50, the latest version of Opera's lightweight web browser has been released. It not only claims to be the fastest browser, but also the first final browser with WebM video support. It's available for Windows, Mac and Linux." Update: 07/04 21:53 GMT by T : Headline updated to reflect that this is Opera 10.60, rather than 10.6. Thanks to the readers who spotted this goof.
FYI, on my system the opera:about page shows it as version "10.60 internal", but its browser identification is:
"Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.60"
which could be construed as meaning either version 9.80 or version 10.60.
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Plus it also has Inspect Element (like Chrome), mouse gestures (like the Firefox addons), and it looks good in Mac OS X and Windows (although not so much in Linux).
I really like Opera on Windows, but I find it dreadful on OS X. I like mouse gestures and use them regularly, but Opera only supports the mouse gestures built into Opera, not the system service ones that work in all my other apps. The same goes for the rest of the system services. No support for the native spellchecker or grammar checker or word statistics. No automatic language translation, dictionary/thesaurus lookup, or text manipulation services. If you give up all the cool OS supplied features of OS X, you might as well be on Windows. I always seems to me like a badly ported Windows app, which is too bad because it is a very nice Windows app.
That renders virtually identically using Opera 10.60, multiple versions of Firefox 2 and 3, Safari, Chrome 5 and 6, and even IE 7 and 8. I'm only seeing differences of, at most, three pixels between the different browsers. That is, there is virtually no difference between Opera 10.60 and the other browsers, as far as I can see.
(Posting from Opera 10.60)
How would the users know it's that site that is broken, and not the browser?
I've switched my default browser from opera to chrome. I'm ready to uninstall opera, it's not worth trying to browse the web with right now. I have to go to FireFox on FreeBSD because chrome is not ported.
Anonymous comments are as pathetic as the anonymous "sources" that contaminate gutless journalism from the New York Time
and I'm on the verge of changing browsers. I paid for Opera back when the choice was between IE, Netscape, and Opera. Been using Opera as my main browser, and very happy with it, since then... must be quasi 10 years now. I'm very sad to see Opera dropping the ball that bad, and not fixing it:
- basically, 10.x versions are much lower quality than 9.x and before. An occasional hiccup can be understood, but 10.x is kinda old by now, there have been several point releases, and the issues that bother me still are there.
- broken feature 1: mouse gestures. One a large screen, with the mouse set for high velocity and high acceleration, mouse gestures don't register 9 out of 10 times. Chrome does not have that issue. It's probably kinda easy to fix (9.x has the issue, but not as badly).
- broken feature 2: autoscroll. 10.x goes out of autoscroll after a (random) handful of seconds. I've taken to copy-pasting URLs of long documents into Opera 9x, but that's cumbersome.
- broken feature 3: Opera Link keeps overwriting my main PCs bookmarks with stuff from PCs I haven't touched in ages. I'm back to synching bookmarks with backups and restore, and re-doing the rest (custom searches...) by hand.
- broken feature 4: cursor in text boxes. I routinely have issues getting my cursor back into rich-text edit boxes. I actually had the problem right now, and had to click on my comment's title then tab back into my text... this is cumbersome after a while.
- Broken feature 4: some sites that used to work perfectly no longer do. Hotmail is the main one, ZD sites are kinda screwy (the comments section)
I'm a bit disheartened. I've been a Opera fan and advocate for long, and now I feel they've dropped their focus on code quality to chase feature checklists and performance benchmarks. I personnaly don't care if my browser does WebM, or if it's 50% faster at javascript, if I can't use Hotmail, synch my PCs, scroll pages, and otherwise navigate with my mouse. These have been bugs since 10.0 beta, I've reported them, Opera hasn't moved on them.
I used to recommend Opera, I no longer do, and after enduring 10.x for months, I'm ready to leave, too. Chrome's mouse gestures and autoscroll work fine on my PC, as do Hotmail and text boxes...
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No actually it does not. Look a little closer. Opera aligns the right side both inside and outside the block quote rather than indenting both left and right.
Looks like you are clueless, buddy.
Perhaps, but who cares?
Opera, because if their users notice less sites work they will leave.
Let those sites break.
I agree.
Sites should display identically on every browser
Impossible, and imho not necessary, but I'm not into the teh-interwebs-is-an-application-shit.
and adhere to all standards
You can use standards and still break things. Since an old browser don't support the latest standards. Eventually one reason to check the version.
not utilizing any browser qwirks.
Agreed.
If they don't they are badly designed pages
Or the opposite, not designed sources of Information.
plain and simple. It's not the browser's responsibility to compensate for an incompetent web developer.
True.
Then explain how I can, with a single click, allow some scripts but NOT others and have it do so easy peasy? Because while Opera may indeed have some sort of adblocking (I've found since Opera is proprietary it is nearly all bad hacks) comparing its allow/disallow to NoScript is just a bad joke. And does their adblock keep ads from being downloaded, or just displayed? And no Proxies, because that isn't a tool for Opera, that is a bad hack that affects the entire OS.
Lets just be honest here folks, and that includes you Opera fanboys as well. Opera does some things better, hell just about every tool out there does at least something better. But Opera is like Apple in that you take what you get and like it, or you get lost. You can hack around the problem, but in the end that's just what it is...hacks.
And while I'm sure there are a few guys that care about the fastest whatever on the block, my FF can ALREADY render pages as fast as my cable will allow, and do so without worrying about bad scripts. I'm sorry but I just don't get this "we're the fastest" ePeen race that has been developing lately. Unless your machines are ancient (which I will admit that Opera runs better on old shit) is there really anybody sitting there with a stopwatch complaining because their browser took an extra 1/34 of a second or something?
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
No.
6 11.
Those who run "noscript" are seriously missing out on a lot of the Internet.
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I love Opera but I've never seen so many bugs in stable release as in this one. I'm using it on linux and I constantly have problems with flash and locked keyboard both at my home and work PCs. This is so anoying that I'm thinking of switching to another browser