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Proximity Sensor Presents Latest iPhone 4 Issue
tekgoblin sends news of the latest iPhone 4 glitch being reported in user forums and elsewhere: the phone's proximity sensor seems not to be detecting nearby faces, as it is designed to do, in order to deactivate the screen during a call. The result is often unintended input. "On the iPhone 3GS, the proximity sensor was located to the left of the earpiece speaker. But that space on iPhone 4 is now occupied by the front-facing camera, and the proximity sensor is above the earpiece. What's not clear is whether the iPhone 4 screen's misbehavior is due to the new location of the sensor, or it's because Apple tweaked the sensor's responses in [some] way."
This was another case where the industrial designers beat the engineers. The engineers wanted a proximity sensor that responded to faces. The industrial designers wanted a proximity detector that responded to beautiful, serene, or uncharacteristically creative faces... No problems were encountered during testing.
Who cares? It's his product! I wanted an espresso machine mounted in my dashboard, but nooooo, Honda had to have it their way, and only give me options they wanted me to have.
It's T E C H N O L O G Y.... geez, its not perfect and it will always have glitches... specially magical revolutionary devices... Take a look at blondes... [ducks].
Nom de dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperie de connard d encule de ta mere.
I'm glad to hear this. Will be upgrading soon.
I'm amazed at all the people who keep repeating the FUD about apple while claiming to never own a product.
But Apple products Just Work(TM) because they've been expertly designed and tested...
Or so the Fanboy^W marketing tells me. RIM doesn't get flack over design failures because RIM has not established their entire company reputation on having supposedly "superior" designs. Apple made their bed by advertising their products as "always working" and "never flawed" unlike the competition. If Apple didn't rabbit on about how the iProduct "Just Works" and how it is so "easy to use" and "simplifies" everything then we wouldn't be having a problem. Then again Apple wouldn't have more then 5% smart-phone market share.
Apple made its bed by claiming their products will always works (I.E. do not have flaws), then Apple releases a defective product that could have been fixed if the prototypes went through some basic real world testing. You cant blame people for having a little schadenfreude now that their marketing has been turned on its head, nor can you cover it up by claiming that the marketing fanboys parrot so often is false.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Maybe the iPhone 4 should be dubbed iPhone Vista... it sure sounds that way.
HTC's EVO? LOL as picked up in chat: "Sprint released a patch to remove root on the HTC Evo. Don't buy an Evo. If you already have one, go return it." So why bother if its locked down like an Apple product
Steve Jobs' reply: "Your spending your money wrong".
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
It's been less than 2 weeks since launch, and you're calling for a class action suit? You do know that both Apple and AT&T have refund policies?
Is it normal to call for a class action suit when there's an easy recourse already provided?
You do also realise that this is all cooked up hysteria, and whatever minor issues there may be are blown out of proportion by trolls and low grade 'journalists' for your clicks?
Again - less than 2 weeks have passed. Do you not feel silly making such grand accusations?
Absolutely no problem so far with the new Mac mini. Never had a problem with the G4 Mac mini or the Core 2 Duo Mac mini either.
people like you should be certified as idiots. have you used any other smartphone? (not old palm devices, i'm talking about new android and symbian).
i guess not. so you are just making decisions based on nothing but steve job's lies.
you know what he said about ipad and iphone?
that they are magical devices. are they magical? no
that they have revolutionary features. can you name any one feature that was not present in an older phone?
on top of all this fud, he blamed his customers for his own device's shortcomings at the keynote! he said that they should turn off all their wlan aps. one question steve, how is it that everything else is still working fine but your iphone is completely fucked up??
so go on, buy a macbook and an ipad. but please don't carry the misconception that you are being clever. in fact, there is probably no bigger idiot than you.
Wealth is the gift that keeps on giving.
are you truly out of your mind? or is this the normal mental state of an apple fanboi?
My impression is that this is the most advanced, subtle device on the market
lol!!1
It sounds like an interesting issue that could combine subtle aspects of different sensor device, position, electromagnetic environment, head geometry, hair, limb length, complexion, reflections, software algorithms / settings, etc.
omg! this sounds like the drivel those religious nuts keep spouting on the tv!
Wealth is the gift that keeps on giving.
no you're not just lucky. you're special.
Quite the contrary, this iPhone gets much better reception than my previous iPhones.
for years now, i haven't experienced a change in the reception of any cellphone i've used (never used iphone). that's because there are standards for reception quality. every proper phone follows them. so, even a decade old nokia has the same great reception as the latest n8. if you experience "much better reception" from this iphone over previous generations, that only means that the previous ones were utter shit. and we have not even talked about the problems many people are getting with reception on the present gen (the one you say has much better reception). so apparently, iphone is still utter shit.
Wealth is the gift that keeps on giving.
Apple is a legal and marketing company that occasionally designs Software and Hardware.
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Damn, my RAM is full of cats. MEOW!!
(So much for the misnomer "Apple designs good hardware." Say what? Then why is the hardware made by everyone else, at the same price range and often lower, designed significantly better?)
Often because the hardware that was available before Apple's announcement was larger and uglier, and the hardware available afterwards was inspired by Apple's design (Apple demonstrates how it could be done, so other companies build something similar, but it wouldn't have occurred to them without seeing it first). The competition is often more robust and has more features, but is less elegant and may be more difficult to use.
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Apparently the fanbois are strong here now... I guess since they cannot use the iPhones (with the antenna and prox sensor issues), they have to surf /. and defend Stevie's honor...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Sorry to disappoint you, I'm an Apple fanboy, and I certainly hope that they fix this in a software update ASAP.
What are the mods doing recently? Seems like "troll" and "flamebait" are being confused with "insightful".
"Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life
Are you telling me that this is the first tech product with bugs? At least Apple can patch 100% of iPhones through iTunes, the users won't have to wait 6 months for their carrier to release a patch, as on all other phones. For example, Sprint EVO can't last 9 hours on standby, and there is no patch yet.
Apple sold almost 2 million in just a few days. If the product was a dud, there should be lineups at Apple Stores of people waiting to return their phones.
What is really happening is iPhone 4 is a great product with so little to criticize that the realities of cell networking and minor software bugs are being hysterically cast as unique iPhone problems. Demand for iPhone has gone up 10 times with this rev and it's put fear into the entire industry, who are taking any opportunity to Apple bash. Truth is, there is no better phone. Users love their iPhones because they're designed for users, not designed for carriers or advertisers, and they come with software and support that makes other devices look empty and orphaned. The iPhone 4's launch bugs are minuscule compared to the typical Android or Nokia phone. Totally miniscule. iPhone 4 sold more on its first day than Nexus One has sold in its whole life, that is the only thing that makes these issues seem widespread at all, but they are not.
In pretty much every country that I know of, Honda cannot revoke the warranty on my car if I install an espresso machine, or use Goodyear tires. My engine and suspension are still under warranty as long as I use tires of the correct size...
Prove it.
It would be nice to have it looked into. I'd actually like to see SlashDot run some quick stats on the up-mod/down-mod ratio for the various topics. I have a feeling the Apple stories would have an even lower ratio than game console stories.
Then they should redesign the air bag. Prevention is better than cure, you're far more in control holding the steering wheel properly at 10 to 2.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
1. I would argue that it was built better than other phones when it came out as evidenced by their industry leading customer satisfaction percentage for the last two years.
2. OS X is inflexible? I'd say it's as flexible as Linux or Windows. Just like either one of those OS's you can do a certain amount through the GUI and if you want to really make it sing you have to go to the command line and have a basic understanding of the OS. I call BS on this point.
3. The GP's post WAS a troll. Most (if not all) trolls are opinions and it was full of overblown hyperbole and inaccuracies. I'd say that qualified it as a troll, or at least a grossly stupid posting at the least. For the record, I call BS on your "an opinion i happen to share after years of dealing with Apple hardware" statement. You're telling me you don't like Apple hardware, but you keep buying it year over year? Are you stupid or just lying?
1. Built better is ambiguous wording, but I compared it to all other phones I had used before and I thought it was much better made in terms of both hardware and software.
2. The OS X UI is no more inflexible than any other UI. And you DID say the OS was inflexible. Go back and re-read your post.
Well, My I phone was lost in the snow bank for three weeks(until it melted). I found it, charged it and it's worked, still working with no problems. I don't think any other phone would fair this well.