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AU Band Men At Work Owes Royalties On 'Kookaburra'

neonsignal writes "Iconic Australian band Men at Work have been ordered to pay royalties for an instrumental riff in their song 'Down Under.' The notes were sampled from a well-known children's song 'Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree,' written in 1934 for a Girl Guide's Jamboree. The Justice found the claims of the copyright owner Larrikin to be excessive, but ordered the payment of royalties and a percentage of future profits. Let's hope the primary schools are up to date with their ARIA license fees!"

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  1. 1934 by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fuck, is the guy who wrote this even still alive?

    Oh right, copyright law is written for zombies.

    1. Re:1934 by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately "artists" provide their own reasons for us to want them dead.. often: nagging about copyright.

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    2. Re:1934 by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Someone made a point that I think made sense......if we're going to have copyright, we ought to not make it based on the life of the creator.....otherwise it will be motivation to kill artists. Make it 15 years from the time it was created or something.

      I know this is modded funny, but seriously say you are write a song that sounds like something else and the judge rules that you might have subconsciously copied it. You have a potential bill for millions that will go away if this artist dies....

    3. Re:1934 by delinear · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The artist in this case is already dead. The rights to the song were sold after her death, and the song that's claimed to be infringing was released before the rights were sold (i.e. the current rights holder bought the song at a point when they had every reason to know of the allegedely infringing song), that still wasn't enough to prevent them having to pay up. This is the kind of crap people are referring to when they say ridiculously long copyright stifles creativity rather than promoting it - seriously, it's one bit of one song that sounds kind of like a tune someone wrote half a decade earlier.

  2. Nine billion names of God by Yergle143 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why don't all you "Pirates" come together and write a computer program to generate all possible melodies for the 32 bar AABA, form. Then publish the whole lot under the creative commons license or whatever, call western music complete, and then download in peace.

    Also these lawsuits are always bunk. Noone ever sues over the harmony do they?

    1. Re:Nine billion names of God by madpansy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nice try RIAA. You're telling gullible nerds to generate all possible melodies and publish them, only to come in and sue them for the melodies which are already copyrighted.

  3. Perversion of the law's intent by bteed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Copyright law was originally intended to contribute to the arts by incentivizing creation with a temporary monopoly for the creator. Hands up whoever thinks Ms Sinclair wouldn't have written this song if she knew some company 75 years later weren't able to get a cut of something they had absolutely no part in creating.

  4. Owned by Warner Music Group now though by FriendlyLurker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Strange the Larrikin Wikimedia page does not mention it, but it is now a Warner Music Group holding (bought by Festival Records, swallowed by Warner Music Australasia).

    The *IAA's successfully bought off the Aussie politicians in full public view, it is only natural that they get to recuperate that "investment" in Aussie law changes. Bad thing for Australia is: The carrot they offered in return has turned out to be a dud - those silly Aussie politicians sold out for little more than shiny trinkets of no value.

  5. Re:Copyright For Life Of The Creator Only? by paiute · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not saying the system is perfect, but just because a piece of property was created in someone's mind doesn't have to mean that the property suddenly belongs to the planet after an arbitrary time period.

    If I owned the copyright to Homer, the Greek, Roman, and Norse tales, and Shakespeare, then I could prevent any new work of narrative from ever being created and sold.

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  6. Re:The song by Vintermann · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Never knew that such a surreal song had such a literal music video. Oh, well.

    They're referencing Kookaburra all right (the flautist actually sits in an old gum tree), but they are not "sampling" it as half the notices about this says. They are also playing it in a minor key, while it's in a major key in the original.

    It's also an 80 years old children's song. With four tones, eleven notes in the disputed part. The world is mad.

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  7. Re:Well, in truth..... by lollacopter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    travelling in my tricked out combie
    on a, bullshit trial, bird in a gum tree,
    i met a strange lawyer, he made me nervous
      he took my songs and stole my breakfast

                    and i said oh! you come from a land down under?
                    where you write a song and a man can plunder
                    when you hear does it make you wonder?
                    you mustn't hum, you mustn't play covers

    got sued by a man down under
    (he had), some copyrights and my song he plundered
    i said do you speak(a) my language?
    he just smiled and gave me a legalese sandwich,

                    and i said oh! you come from a land down under?
                    where you write a song and a man can plunder
                    when you hear does it make you wonder?
                    you mustn't hum, you mustn't play covers

    Dying in a den in Bombay
    (with a) slack jaw, and not much to say
    i said to the man "are you trying to exempt me
    from playing my tune in a land of plenty ? "

                    and he said NO! you stole that riff down under
                    the flute solo it makes me wonder
                    these rights we bought to plunder
                    the tunes you make in a land down under