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AU Band Men At Work Owes Royalties On 'Kookaburra'

neonsignal writes "Iconic Australian band Men at Work have been ordered to pay royalties for an instrumental riff in their song 'Down Under.' The notes were sampled from a well-known children's song 'Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree,' written in 1934 for a Girl Guide's Jamboree. The Justice found the claims of the copyright owner Larrikin to be excessive, but ordered the payment of royalties and a percentage of future profits. Let's hope the primary schools are up to date with their ARIA license fees!"

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  1. Reminds me of... by Retron · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Reminds me a bit of Bittersweet Symbphony, the Verve song that was deemed to have ripped off an obscure version of The Last Time by the Stones.
    I guess a lot of that goes on, whether intentional or not.

  2. Even If They Lose the Appeal... by akahige · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...This has got to be seen as a win for the band. They have to pay royalties back to 2002... which is >20 years since the song was released and became a monster hit. Surely its earnings potential has slacked off some since then. Imagine how bad it would be if they had to come up with royalties back to its heyday...

  3. Precedent... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They wrote the song in 1981, and reissued it in 1982, well before the creator's death and subsquent sale of the song to Larrikin. This may set a very bad precedent, since new owners won't always honour agreements predating their ownership.

  4. Re:Nine billion names of God by Zironic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, atleast Swedish copyright law states explicitly that machine generated things can't be copyrighted because they're not creative.

  5. This is not the wrong you are looking for. by Psaakyrn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kookaburra_Sits_in_the_Old_Gum_Tree

    "Marion Sinclair died in 1988"
    "In June 2009, Larrikin Music sued the band Men At Work for copyright infringement, alleging that part of the flute riff of the band's 1981 single "Down Under" was copied from "Kookaburra"."

    The problem is not with copyrights lasting more than the creator, since this was infringed withing the creator's lifespan. The question is why is this brought up only now. Isn't there supposed to be something about having to defend your copyrights or some such?

  6. Re:Perversion of the law's intent by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It gets worse. She donated her rights to the song to the Libraries Board of South Australia a year before she died. They then sold the rights to a corporation, which is now suing Men at Work.

    So she even tried to donate it to the public good, and its still being used to score free money for people not involved in its creation.

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  7. Re:Iconic artist? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean that the story is uninteresting.

    Anyway, by the way you write, you sound like a teenager so you're probably too young to remember Men At Work's major hit "Down Under".

    I can't say I'm even a fan of the band myself but the fact is this article is more about the music industry and licensing than it is about the band themselves - so go sit quietly in a corner and contribute when you have something interesting to say.

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  8. Re:Perversion of the law's intent by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This shows what a great thing the internet is, provided that we defend it. Ten or 20 years ago you had to trust organisations like libraries to take care of donated product. Now you can just slap a GFDL header on the sheet music and post it to wikipedia. Done.

  9. Defense doesn't add up by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Colin Hay defends the song saying (emphasis added):

    "It is no surprise that in over 20 years, no one noticed the reference to Kookaburra. There are reasons for this. It was inadvertent, naive, unconscious, and by the time Men At Work recorded the song, it had become unrecognisable," he said.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/05/2811671.htm

    Yet in the music video for "Down Under" a flute player is shown playing the quotation while sitting in a gum tree.

    Pure coincidence?

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  10. Save the world from your family by AVryhof · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When you write your will, put a clause that all of your works are released under an OSS or Public Domain License upon your death.

    There should be a CC License created for this... "In Memory Of"

  11. Re:Disney's Kill Bill by silentcoder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are you seriously suggesting that Pixar and Tarantino TOGETHER have made them as much money as Snow White alone ? Not to mention Rapunzel, The hunchback of Notre Dame, Alladin, Tarzan (again - came out within a year after Buroughs original copyright expired).

    They have a roughly 80 year history of films made from stories that were in the public domain, not to mention the additional income from toys and other branding. The pixar and Tarantino branches are both only in the last 20 years or so of that period.
    Disney has a history of taking works from the public domain and creating profitable works from them - and then claiming copyright on said derivations. I have my doubts about the morality of this but it's certainly legal. The point is though - Disney is so intent on keeping their one truly original creation (Mickey Mouse) under copyright and NOT contributing it to the world as the people they took from did that they have ensured the extension of copyright TWICE to make it happen.
    That's not even considering that where it suited them - they have on occasion actually outright stolen stories that were copyrighted creating highly profitable works - simply because the small companies they were stealing from simply could not afford to try and sue them. The lion king is perhaps the worst example of that.

    Tit for tat goes the saying. We set up copyright in the way it is so THAT companies like Disney could take it's stories and make movies people love - that's fine. It's NOT fine to refuse to play ball and give you own works BACK to that pool when the time comes so that OTHER companies and people can do the same.

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