Crack the Code In US Cyber Command's Logo

Dan writes "According to Wired: 'The US military's new Cyber Command is headquartered at Ft. Meade, Maryland, one of the military's most secretive and secure facilities. Its mission is largely opaque, even inside the armed forces. But the there's another mystery surrounding the emerging unit. It's embedded in the Cyber Command logo. On the logo's inner gold ring is a code: 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a.'"

Comments

md5?

[betterunixthanunix]

Looks like it is the same length as an MD5 sum...

Re:md5?

[Anonymous Coward]

It is a dumb md5 hash and nothing more.

"USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries."

Re:md5?

[jimmyswimmy]

$ echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." | md5sum
9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a  -

Re:md5?

[simcop2387]

whoever you are, you deserve a cookie.

echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." | md5sum
9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a -

Re:md5?

[DIplomatic]

Keep digging, I'm pretty sure this will end up as promotion for a new Halo game. :P

Re:md5?

[sepelester]

So what's the maximum length message that an MD5 number can hold?

Infinite - 1

Re:md5?

[Aphoxema]

MD5s don't hold information, they're a trap-door. It's perfectly possible that another combination of characters would lead to the same MD5, but it's incredibly unlikely that those characters would be lingually meaningful.

Passwords are often "stored" server-side as a hash. Why I quote "stored" is because the password isn't stored at all! The server doesn't know the actual password, you would have to digest every possible combination of characters to find a hash that exactly matches the one stored on the server, but by knowing a string that already does (your password) you're already there.

MD5 alone is a poor choice for trapping important strings because it is possible to "plan" a collision... for example, if a web-site offered you a file and an MD5 hash to test the source of that file, with enough cleverness and computing power another party could give you a different file with the same MD5 hash.

Re:md5?

[CrimsonAvenger]

So what's the maximum length message that an MD5 number can hold?

Holy crap you're stupid.

No, he's ignorant.

It's arguably stupid to not google it first to find out what it is, but that's a common failing on /. (and everywhere else in human space).

Re:md5?

[severn2j]

Doesn't pretty much every government department make a hash of their mission statement?

Re:md5?

[idontgno]

Sheesh.

Either you're trolling or you don't comprehend the difference between hashing, encryption, and compression.

You display a practical understanding of compression: output size is proportionate to input size. But again, since compression algorithms work in blocks or streams of data, there's no theoretical limit to input size. Things like filesystem file size limits may apply, but again, if it's a stream compression with a stream input (e.g., network socket) and a stream output (ditto), there's no limit (other than externals like the finite lifespan of the Universe).

Encryption's affect on size is different than compression. Without padding, encryption output size should be the same as input size. Many algorithms do pad short inputs, so there may be a small increase in output size. Again, since ciphers can operate in stream modes, there are no inherent limits (other than, for instance, available one-time-pad data for OTP ciphers.)

Hashing, on the other hand, is in essence an extremely fancy checksum, specifically designed to use cryptographic functions in order to radically increase the likelihood that the hash value derived from any particular input is relatively unique (i.e., the hash of a particular input is radically different from the hash of another particular input which is almost identical to the first--small differences in input yield obvious differences in output.)

Checksums are, by practical definition, fixed-size, and that size is much smaller than the majority of the potential inputs. The classic checksum is a single check digit: (running total of input) mod 10. Cryptographic hashes (such as MD5--which stands for Message Digest Algorithm 5, btw) are defined to be 128 bits. No matter how long the input is, the MD5 algorithm always produces a 128-bit output, because it iteratively processes bytes of the input 128 bits at a time.

C'mon. You mean to tell me I can take the collected works of Harry Potter and boil them down to a 128 bit MD5 number? Wow that's some amazing test compression. Even ZIP isn't that good!

It's not compression. Compression requires reversibility. Hashes are, by definition, not reversible: a "trap door function". The idea is that you can take an input and digest it into a 128-bit number which relatively uniquely represents it, but you can't reverse the 128-bit number and recover the original input. That would be foolish: "I'll reverse the hash, edit the text, re-hash it, and send it on its way; no one will be the wiser."

I got it!

[bsDaemon]

Don't ... forget to... drink... your ovaltine?!?! a lousy commercial!?

Re:I got it!

[PrescriptionWarning]

funny, I decoded it and it came out "Ph4rma increase your p33nas size today for less $$$$"

Re:I got it!

[spong]

It's really reads "All your base are belong to U.S.".

And...

[stressclq]

It was quite swiftly found out to be the MD5 hash of (remove quotes): "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries."

News at 11..

What you say?

[oodaloop]

It's "All Your Base Are Belong To Us!"

Wait, too soon?

I reckon

[Hognoxious]

"Help, I'm being held prisoner in a logo factory"

Nothing to see here, move along.

[Anonymous Coward]

It's no secret. Somebody called their office and asked what it was. It's the mission statement.

I'm sure the conspiracy nuts will just say that's a convenient hash collision and that the real message is the date and time the Loch Ness Bigfoot Anti-Christ from Betelgeuse heads up the New World Order.

Re:MD5

[betterunixthanunix]

Actually, it turns out that every paragraph USCYBERCOM publishes will have the same MD5 hash; they are showing off their ability to find collisions.

Wait a minute...

[natehoy]

It's written in an obscure script on the inside of a golden ring?

Well, duh. Isn't it obvious?

"Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie."

Quick! We need some midgets and an active volcano!

Obviously....

[lattyware]

It's the WEP key for their WiFi. Handy for all staff who forget easily.

Another level of coding?

[SloWave]

What's more interesting is if you take the first letters of each word in their mission statement and parse them correctly, you get 'UPC is a cat' followed by a list of acronyms for all sorts of shadowy secret organizations and technologies...

upc is a cat dto ados dod in a pta wd cfs mco io tea ia de UA foa i cad tst oa

Re:Silly government!

[mackil]

I find your lack of Salt disturbing...