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Do Home Computers Help Or Hinder Education?

theodp writes "The NY Times reports on economists' efforts to measure a home computer's educational impact on schoolchildren in low-income households. Taking widely varying routes, they are arriving at similar conclusions: little or no educational benefit is found. Worse, computers seem to have further separated children in low-income households, whose test scores often decline after the machine arrives, from their more privileged counterparts. Abroad, researchers found that children in Romanian households who won a $300 voucher to help them buy computers received significantly lower school grades in math, English and Romanian. Stateside, students in a North Carolina study posted significantly lower math test scores after the first broadband provider showed up in their neighborhood, and significantly lower reading scores as well when the number of broadband providers increased. And a Texas study found that 'there was no evidence linking technology immersion with student self-directed learning or their general satisfaction with schoolwork.'"

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  1. Here's some money for a crappy computer... by dwightk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... why aren't you doing better?

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  2. Sample Sizes by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The Texas study listed these numbers for sample sizes:

    Three groups or cohorts of students were included in this study, with Cohort 1 followed for four years, Cohort 2 for three years, and Cohort 3 for two years (Table 2.2). Cohort 1 (ninth graders) included a total of 5,217 students, with 2,469 treatment students enrolled at high schools and 2,748 control students enrolled at high schools; Cohort 2 (eighth graders) included 5,436 students, with 2,578 at treatment middle schools and 2,858 at control middle schools; and Cohort 3 (seventh graders) included 5,392 students, with 2,547 students at treatment middle schools and 2,845 at control middle schools.

    The Romanian study apparently successfully interviewed 858 families in two Romanian counties (Valcea and Covasna). With 1,100 children interviewed and some 1,800 survey sets. Just to put some perspective on how comprehensive each of these reports are. Couldn't get access to the other reports.

    Personally I think we're still in a transition period and now that those homes have computers starting when the child is born (and whose parents had computers) we will start to see better parenting skills and regulation with computer usage. It could become just another carrot for the kid or even a method to teach the child proper time management (similar to the classic homework before TV law).

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  3. Do education hinder education? by Tei · · Score: 5, Funny

    It seems on our culture learning is not a process, is a job for theachers. Theres no importance put on teaching people how to learn. About a 50%, maybe a 25% of teaching sould be training people how to learn things.

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  4. Re:Non Sequitur by cyber0ne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The computer is just a tool. I'd think it has no direct effect on education whatsoever. Smart kids with supportive parents will gain a great deal from having a computer. Dumb kids with dumber parents will spend hours on Youtube, twitter etc and learn nothing of consequence.

    Exactly. If the parents are buying the computer as a teacher in the same sense that they bought the TV as a babysitter then they're doing it wrong. Kids who want to learn and grow will see it as a tool to help them perform that task, whereas kids who want to play Farmville and watch YouTube will see it as a tool to help them perform _that_ task. Perhaps the presence of the computer in the home strengthens the divide, but the divide has already been there. The student has to want to learn. There are exceptions, but generally (at least in American culture) low-income households and neighborhoods don't place a very high social value on education, and kids pick up on that at a much earlier age than a home PC can affect.

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  5. Re:A challenge to game designers by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    GCompris is in use by schools all over the world.

  6. This does not mesh with my personal experience... by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I grew up dirt poor. One of the places we lived in had a dirt floor and no insulation in Great Falls, Montana.

    I got to eat meat year round because my father poached deer out of season.

    I got to eat bread because my parents bought hogs feed at 5 cents/lb to grind to flour.

    I got to eat vegetables because we would gleen the fields of industrial farms of low growing fruit/veggies after the harvester machines passed through.

    My parents were to religiously conservative to teach me anything at home that didn't come from the bible.

    When we got a computer, it opened up the world for me.

    From that point on, I never learned anything in school until I started working on my second college degree.

    This was because I had already learned it from exploring on my own by the time school had gotten around to teaching it.

    My experience may be far from common, but it was invaluable for me that I had access to a computer.

  7. Re:A challenge to game designers by KarrdeSW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    However, why are economists studying this and why is anyone lending the study credence?

    Why wouldn't they? Do economists not understand mathematical models? Do they not understand statistics? They don't have a good grasp of how to properly stratify income groups? Or is it impossible for an economist to specialize in the area of education? I think a far more likely explanation is that you just don't generally understand economics.

    In fact, did you even read his CV before making such a statement? Ofer Malamud is an education specialist.

    Just a sampling of paper titles:

    “General Education vs. Vocational Training: Evidence from an Economy in Transition"
    “The Structure of European Higher Education in the Wake of the Bologna Reforms"
    “Breadth vs. Depth: The Timing of Specialization in Higher Education"

    I would address your snake-oil comment, but you apparently hold up sociology as more scientifically rigorous. I don't see much hope for you.

  8. Re:This does not mesh with my personal experience. by jgreco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Congratulations, you're a self-motivated learner. Providing resources to such a person is generally an enabling thing, regardless of what the resource is. The Internet can be a very powerful tool in such hands. However, many people just don't have that sort of drive, and will instead waste time on the Internet doing Facebook, instant messaging, games, and other not-particularly-educational things.