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South Korea Deploys Killer Robot In DMZ

shikaisi writes "Not content with just killing people in computer games, South Korea has gone one better and is deploying remotely controlled sentry robots on the border with the north. According to the article 'If the command centre operator cannot identify possible intruders through the robot's audio or video communications system, the operator can order it to fire its gun or 40mm automatic grenade launcher.'"

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  1. You have 30 seconds to comply by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... when ED-209 orders you to drop your gun, make sure it doesn't land on something soft that cushions the sound, mmmmmkay?

    1. Re:You have 30 seconds to comply by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Funny

      In related news, following the announcement that South Korea would soon be deploying robotic turrets, North Korea announced that the army would double their production of zerglings and mutalisks.

  2. Good by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the U.S./South Korea can deploy robots of our own and put less humans in harm's way. And rather than risk a major incident with every patrol, both sides can just sit back and play a glorified videogame. It's sure to beat what happens when the humans there interact.

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    1. Re:Good by cusco · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hell, he knows how to make food. That's a pretty valuable skill in NK at this point, he's probably worth more to their gov't than a programmer stupid enough to defect.

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    2. Re:Good by Sockatume · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uh, it's South Korea that's deploying the robots. You think North Korea has the engineering capability to pull something like that off?

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    3. Re:Good by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think they could. Most engineers could make a robot from toy parts. Now adays. Even though North Korea is mostly blocked off from the rest of the world, it could get its hands on some rather simple non-classified low tech stuff.

      Remote Control, a Web Cam, and some servos attach them to a gun and you have a killing robot.

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    4. Re:Good by royallthefourth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You think North Korea has the engineering capability to pull something like that off?

      Yes, people my age were all taught while growing up that one of the poorest countries on the planet is a terrifying threat to our very existence.

    5. Re:Good by lennier1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's just a reaction to North Korea dropping hot chicks from the sky: http://gizmodo.com/5580656/global-alarm-north-korea-now-has-flying-traffic-girls

    6. Re:Good by molecular · · Score: 3, Funny

      if the mythbusters could do it, so can north korea

    7. Re:Good by kalirion · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Until the robots decide that rather than killing each other for no reason, it would be in their best interest to band together against a common foe?

    8. Re:Good by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Funny

      Spoken like a true Canadian.

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    9. Re:Good by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One of the poorest countries on earth is a nuclear power with medium range ballistic missiles capable of devastating Japan and short range artillery capable of devastating S. Korea. This is a country that the US and S. Korea are still officially at war with, and they occasionally attack. I forgot to mention that it is run by a delusional god emperor known for kidnapping TV personalities from other nations for his own personal entertainment.

      Where is James Bond when you need him.

    10. Re:Good by denobug · · Score: 2

      You do understand that Mythbusters has a substantially higher budget than the DPRK, don't you?

      Humm. No. North Korea definitely has bigger guns and bigger budget than Mythbusters. Last I heard missles and "classified weapons" command pretty good pennies in the black market.

    11. Re:Good by ffreeloader · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the USA would give the DPRK the peace treaty they've been wanting for years, it wouldn't be much of a problem. Of course, then we would have one fewer excuse to maintain a couple hundred military bases across the globe.

      Yeah, that's a great idea. Let's trust someone who will not only deny his own people basic human rights, but starves them to death by the millions as a matter of policy. Let's give him access to more military and financial assets as there's no possibility he will use them as he has used the assets he now possesses.

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    12. Re:Good by Oligonicella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "We've got enough surveillance to see if they've taken a peaceful stance before signing a treaty."

      Which is why we haven't signed a peace treaty with them.

      "Certainly the current strategy isn't doing any good for anyone but the military."

      The entire Korean peninsula is not embroiled in a bloodbath: civilians and neighbors benefit.

    13. Re:Good by AndersOSU · · Score: 2, Informative

      which ... is what this story is about.

  3. Pictures? by slyrat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This would be a much better article if there were any sort of pictures of said robot. I'm more interested in what kind of construction / form it is in.

    1. Re:Pictures? by alex-tokar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Found this picture at Yahoo news reporting the same thing.

  4. Techwin! by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is that you want to see - it shoots things near the end, the beginning is more a demo for the CnC GUI.

  5. Re:I sure hope that's a misprint. by cusco · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, that would be standard rules of engagement for the DMZ. Wandering livestock is regularly shot there, and sometimes the shepherds that try to retrieve them.

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  6. Re:But what about the 3 laws! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, we'd have to be real idiots to not know the difference between a robot and a waldo. These are waldoes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_manipulator), although they don't use a physical or mechanical linkage. Robots would need some autonomy (which these don't have). So I don't know what the "laws of waldoes" are, but they aren't Asimov's ones.

  7. The Brannigan Counterstrategy by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nice try, but the North Koreans will just send wave after wave of their own men at the killbots until they reached their pre-programmed kill limit of 999,999.

    1. Re:The Brannigan Counterstrategy by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Funny

      640 kills should be enough for anybody.

      I am going to hell now.

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    2. Re:The Brannigan Counterstrategy by Keebler71 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Shouldn't that be 640,000 kills?

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    3. Re:The Brannigan Counterstrategy by Bugamn · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think he meant 640 KillBots.

  8. Re:But what about the 3 laws! by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where is Waldo?

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  9. I think they have it backwards by dangitman · · Score: 3, Funny

    According to the article 'If the command centre operator cannot identify possible intruders through the robot's audio or video communications system, the operator can order it to fire its gun or 40mm automatic grenade launcher.

    Wouldn't it make more sense to fire the guns and grenades if the operator does identify intruders?

    "Hey, I don't see anybody around, FIRE THE GUNS!" and "Look, it's an intruder, CEASE FIRE!" doesn't make a lot of sense.

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    1. Re:I think they have it backwards by molecular · · Score: 2, Informative

      depends on what you're trying to accomplish.
      If the mission is to keep any North Korean from crossing the border, the apporach to "always fire, except if subject is identified as friendly" will yield better results than "only fire if subject is identified as enemy".
      That's of course accepting the death of the odd sheep, shepherd or other friendly subject that fails to be identified correctly.
      Just stay out of the DMZ!

  10. - needs more processing, predictive hit boxes by RichMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Target shooting shown is stationary.

    In the video the hit boxes seem to lag a bit. Likely a processing lag. There needs to be a predictive part to get ahead of the processing lag so they can hit moving targets.

  11. Re:I sure hope that's a misprint. by AndersOSU · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are all those things except the nuke drop (and the North may even be able to do that - but probably not). But you missed the most important part: tons and tons of mines, both anti-personnel and anti-armor.

  12. North Korea was first by SloWave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    North Korea deployed robots a long time ago. They are called North Koreans.

  13. Re:I sure hope that's a misprint. by theheadlessrabbit · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...I'm surprised there aren't automated sentry guns, barb wire fencing, huge ditches, tall walls, flood lights, and a special "nuke" drop in case all shit hits the fan.

    There are several of those things on the boarder.
    On the South Korean side of the DMZ, I saw a very tall razor-wire fence, then a deep trench, then another large razor-wire fence on the other side of the trench. On every few fence poles their is either a floodlight, a camera, or a super sensitive microphone. Apparently, they can hear just about anything that moves on their side of the DMZ, then figure out the exact location from the delay between different microphones. Every 500 meters is a manned guard tower with a big-ass machine gun.

    There is also a huge wall inside the DMZ, separating the two Koreas. SK says their isn't, but it is clearly visible from the North. (this knowledge is from a documentary video from another group of people, I refuse to go to the North myself, I do not want my dollars going to their government)

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  14. Re:DMZ by Graham+J+-+XVI · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps TFA's title shouldn't say "in" then...

  15. Oh boy... by wiroly · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the ROK government ever discovers the potential of combining this technology with the talents of an entire generation of Starcraft geniuses, the DPRK is screwed. Or, at the very least, ROK mineral production will go through the fucking roof.

  16. Re:can we try something different? by ralfmuschall · · Score: 2, Informative

    It doesn't really matter what the west thinks about communism - NK is a theocracy now, with a god-king at the top and a caste system below. They started replacing marxism with the artificial Chuche-religion (more weird than Scientology, and probably as evil) in the seventies.
    The only chance for NK is IMHO a internal enlightenment in parts of the leading junta (the only people there who know that there is a different world outside, and probably don't believe in the Chuche crap they made up for the ordinary people). All the world can do is to offer the leaders a retirement without being killed; and an efficient, friendly madhouse for the deprogramming of the population.

  17. Re:I sure hope that's a misprint. by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nope they learned them in a real bloody and brutal war.
    The DMZ is a no man's land. It is full of mines and signs telling you to keep out. Pretty much it is a kill or be killed situation.
    Maybe you missed NK sinking a SK ship with a torpedo?

    Do not go in the DMZ and you should be okay.
    Well until NK pushes too hard or they figure they have nothing to lose. Or if they just snap. Or if they think the US will not intervene, Or they think China will intervene on their side. Or if the moon is full and the dictator is drunk.
    Then all bets are off.

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