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Given Truth, the Misinformed Believe Lies More

SharpFang writes "In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that misinformed people, particularly political partisans, rarely changed their minds when exposed to corrected facts in news stories. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger."

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  1. This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's nothing but lies designed to obscure the fact that Barak Hussein Obama is a Muslim terrorist who wants to entrance our children with commie healthcare. The sooner he goes back to his hometown in Kenya the better.

    And my facts are just fine. Bill O'Reilly told me so.

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    1. Re:This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes. To quote Jon Stewart, to Bill O'Reilly, "You're the sanest voice on this entire network. And that's a little scary sometimes."

    2. Re:This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      A sarcasm detector based on voice inflection would probably think that people from India are being sarcastic all the time, but in my experience, they are almost never sarcastic. Isn't that ironic?

    3. Re:This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      Brilliant reasoning. Thank you. Come again.

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    4. Re:This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...And a meta-woosh for you, fine sir.

    5. Re:This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by jpcarter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's fine. The scary part is that most of the people who watch him don't realize that.

    6. Re:This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Informative

      That is a really twisted interpretation of the word "progressive".

      A progressive believes that the current system not working as well as it should, and that it must be improved from within.

      Compare to revolutionary that believes that change is needed, but the system can not be changed from within.

      Compare to a conservative who approves of the current state of government.

      A Regressive believes that recent changes have been for the worse and seeks to repeal them.

      None of these infer as to what direction they believe the change should be in. These are the meanings of these words untwisted by any personal and political agenda. Other political terms like liberal, right and left are somewhat more open to interpretation.

    7. Re:This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by Xyrus · · Score: 5, Funny

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    8. Re:This study is nothing but Communist propaganda by pnewhook · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's increasingly clear to me that Americans who are adamantly against socialism have no idea what socialism means.

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  2. Because... by cmiller173 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... when exposed to corrected facts in news stories.

    Perhaps because we have learned to distrust the news providers?

    1. Re:Because... by divisionbyzero · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... when exposed to corrected facts in news stories.

      Perhaps because we have learned to distrust the news providers?

      Agreed. One of the greatest coups of big business is the co-opting of journalism. Now, nobody believes in objectivity. Everything is just politics.

  3. Also rather interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's something called the Kruger-Dunning effect which is kinda interesting as well Dunning-Kruger effect. The premise is the following one:

    The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes.

  4. Politics is like Sports and Religion by Aceticon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For most people, Politics, like Sports and Religion is all about having an emotional attachment to something - they're for/with/believe a group/ideology because they feel like "one of the group" and one cannot be against oneself.

    A high level of intelectual abilities (i.e. IQ) is no defense against it: just look at all the religious-like flamewars around things like editors and operating systems.

    In order to do trully informed judgements one must first be aware of one's inner-self, one's drives and fears and be capable of analysing one's motives. One must be capable of separating the "logic" from the "feelings" and the "habits" in the way things are perceived, interpreted and reasoned about.

    Unfortunatly this requires a level of inner maturity that seems to be far above that of most people ...

  5. Or even just reserving judgement by pavon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is one of the reasons that I dislike discussing/arguing issues in person. They will bring up some information I hadn't heard before, but I have no idea whether it is reliable or not. I try not to be set in my beliefs, but 90% of the "facts" that people spout usually had some foundation in truth originally but have become so misinterpreted by the time they heard it that it is almost complete crap. I like to look into things before I accept them, but that isn't an option in person. If you can't immediately refute any random thing they bring up and won't just accept what they say as gospel truth then you are pegged as a ignorant stubborn idiot. Furthermore, when I am pressed like that I do feel a strong desire to dig in and defend myself, when otherwise I would just take in the information and have one more thing to mull over while I continue to read about the issue.

  6. Re:This explains religion. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this flamebait? Religions provide no objective evidence that they are true, yet require belief. When the facts contradict the dogma, they claim that the facts are just there to test your faith and that a true believer will see through them to the real underlying truth. Sounds like exactly the mindset that TFA is describing.

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  7. Re:Right by shish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why should I care about it?

    Because sometimes people act on their beliefs, and even if your philosophy is "live and let live", that won't stop *them* from going out of their way to affect you

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  8. Re:This explains religion. by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Two points here. First, that's a pretty broad brush you paint "religion" with there. It may be an accurate description of typical midwestern Protestant religion (who probably you encounter most often pushing the latest in Creationism) but many modern religions have a more sophisticated view on integrating with Reality than that. Even among Christianity, the Catholics are generally quite willing to consider evolution and the Big Bang - heck, Lemaitre was a Catholic priest! I won't even go into the eastern religions. A more nuanced perspective is in order.

    Second, I think that the reason a lot of people react like that is, to take an example, the Guy With The Truth is typically perceived to be not just a guy trying to inform for the sake of Truth, but a guy who's got some ideological agenda to push including a whole suite of objectionable ideas, not just the one, so it's easy to dismiss his statements wholesale. He's probably not just interested in saying "the universe began this way and here's why; interesting, eh?" but he oh so often goes on to make snide remarks about religion and politics and possibly underlying cultural value systems. Just read typical Slashdot comments here and you'll find plenty of examples. Wrap the truth in a turd often enough, and people will think it's smelly.

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  9. Political opinion set by how timid a kid you were. by jackpot777 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would sound like the perfect troll: find out how timid a kid was at age 3, that tells you how conservative he'll be at 23.

    As it goes, it's completely backed up by research. And the researchers weren't looking for that info, it just sat there in the data.

    In 1969, Berkeley professors Jack and Jeanne Block embarked on a study of childhood personality, asking nursery school teachers to rate children's temperaments.

    They weren't even thinking about political orientation. And why would they? They're psychology professors researching personality theory, personality development, research methodology, and stuff like that.

    Twenty years later, they decided to compare the subjects' childhood personalities with their political preferences as adults. Why? Who knows. Maybe for craps and giggles. Maybe because they had a column blank on their spreadsheet and wanted to fill it with one more metric to see if there was a link between voting and eating the erasers on the tops of pencils.

    What was interesting to them was the arresting patterns they found.

    As kids, liberals had developed close relationships with peers and were rated by their teachers as self-reliant, energetic, impulsive, and resilient.

    People who were conservative at age 23 had been described by their teachers as easily victimized, easily offended, indecisive, fearful, rigid, inhibited, and vulnerable at age 3.

    Don't forget: the Blocks had NO IDEA what political affiliation any of the three year-olds would have when they did the survey in 1969. But go forward twenty years, and there it is. Everything that people say they want their kids to be: kids just like that became Libs. Everything that makes short-tempered parents scream and beat their kids: future applicants for a CPAC pass and an EIB golf shirt request on the Christmas list.

    The reason for the difference, the Blocks hypothesized, was that insecure kids most needed the reassurance of tradition and authority, and they found it in conservative politics. The article doesn't say if Professor N.S.Sherlock lit his pipe and smiled knowingly to himself upon hearing the results, but I wouldn't die of surprise if it happened.

    Pure science: sometimes, the truth just hurts. Especially if you've been easily victimized, easily offended, indecisive, fearful, rigid, inhibited, and vulnerable all your life.

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